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I would propose stubifying per WP:STUBIFY. Very little of it is cited to a reliable source, and there are issues surrounding editors with a conflict of interest. The 21st century section makes claims about some surgery at the hospital being a "failure", which may be a WP:NPOV issue. Overall, I think that Wikipedia would be improved if the article were re-written from scratch. Mz7 ( talk) 04:06, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Disagree. The sources for the Hospital's legal issues are all major NY newspapers. MZ7 seems to have an agenda. Maybe the history (all written by the hospital's VP of public relations, Lyn Hill) should be tossed, and the rest kept. As far as the Oktay surgery, he was sued by his patient, forced to leave the hospital, and multiple sources note that his surgery was a failure. Years later, it's not being used. Maybe we should be aware that settled lawsuits are difficult to track down in terms of citing them. 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by 24.189.35.67 ( talk) 00:37, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
The legal issues are not presented as the sole content. Almost the entirety of the article is written by the hospital's VP of Public Relations and consists of hagiographic and unsourced propaganda. Again, the safety issues that plagued this hospital are nearly unprecedented in the NY area. No other NY hospital has had their chief of surgery have his license to practice medicine stripped by the department of health as an imminent danger to patients. The malpractice award was one of the single highest in the country. These are significant issues, and absolutely should not be stubbed, much as the hospital would love to see that happen. I'd respectfully suggest that you become familiar with this subject before getting involved. 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by 24.189.35.67 ( talk) 18:09, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material. Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed.Especially if you think there are conflict of interest issues involved, I still think a total rewrite would be advisable for this article. Mz7 ( talk) 06:07, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Ms. Z: every single assertion other than Oktay (which can be inferred from external sources) is sourced from major NYC papers. Are you actually reading the article? And it's strange that you're "Ms. Z" while the hospital's VP of Publicity has an extremely similar name. This is a sewer of a hospital, and I seriously think you need to read about its history (Dr. Oloumi, etc.) before getting involved. 90% of the original article was unsourced, but nobody had a problem with that. 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by 24.189.35.67 ( talk) 18:40, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved to NewYork-Presbyterian Brooklyn Methodist Hospital. Primefac ( talk) 18:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC) Primefac ( talk) 18:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
NewYork鈥揚resbyterian Brooklyn Methodist Hospital 鈫 NewYork-Presbyterian Brooklyn Methodist Hospital 鈥 The reason for this request to rename and move this page is to correct spelling mistakes in the article title. The article title needs to have the dash removed and replaced with a hyphen. The hyphen, not the dash, is what's pictured in the official NYP Brooklyn Methodist Hospital Logo. Vasdes98 ( talk) 03:11, 3 September 2020 (UTC)鈥Relisting.聽鈥攗sernamekiran (talk) 06:33, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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I would propose stubifying per WP:STUBIFY. Very little of it is cited to a reliable source, and there are issues surrounding editors with a conflict of interest. The 21st century section makes claims about some surgery at the hospital being a "failure", which may be a WP:NPOV issue. Overall, I think that Wikipedia would be improved if the article were re-written from scratch. Mz7 ( talk) 04:06, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Disagree. The sources for the Hospital's legal issues are all major NY newspapers. MZ7 seems to have an agenda. Maybe the history (all written by the hospital's VP of public relations, Lyn Hill) should be tossed, and the rest kept. As far as the Oktay surgery, he was sued by his patient, forced to leave the hospital, and multiple sources note that his surgery was a failure. Years later, it's not being used. Maybe we should be aware that settled lawsuits are difficult to track down in terms of citing them. 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by 24.189.35.67 ( talk) 00:37, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
The legal issues are not presented as the sole content. Almost the entirety of the article is written by the hospital's VP of Public Relations and consists of hagiographic and unsourced propaganda. Again, the safety issues that plagued this hospital are nearly unprecedented in the NY area. No other NY hospital has had their chief of surgery have his license to practice medicine stripped by the department of health as an imminent danger to patients. The malpractice award was one of the single highest in the country. These are significant issues, and absolutely should not be stubbed, much as the hospital would love to see that happen. I'd respectfully suggest that you become familiar with this subject before getting involved. 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by 24.189.35.67 ( talk) 18:09, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material. Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed.Especially if you think there are conflict of interest issues involved, I still think a total rewrite would be advisable for this article. Mz7 ( talk) 06:07, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Ms. Z: every single assertion other than Oktay (which can be inferred from external sources) is sourced from major NYC papers. Are you actually reading the article? And it's strange that you're "Ms. Z" while the hospital's VP of Publicity has an extremely similar name. This is a sewer of a hospital, and I seriously think you need to read about its history (Dr. Oloumi, etc.) before getting involved. 90% of the original article was unsourced, but nobody had a problem with that. 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by 24.189.35.67 ( talk) 18:40, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved to NewYork-Presbyterian Brooklyn Methodist Hospital. Primefac ( talk) 18:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC) Primefac ( talk) 18:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
NewYork鈥揚resbyterian Brooklyn Methodist Hospital 鈫 NewYork-Presbyterian Brooklyn Methodist Hospital 鈥 The reason for this request to rename and move this page is to correct spelling mistakes in the article title. The article title needs to have the dash removed and replaced with a hyphen. The hyphen, not the dash, is what's pictured in the official NYP Brooklyn Methodist Hospital Logo. Vasdes98 ( talk) 03:11, 3 September 2020 (UTC)鈥Relisting.聽鈥攗sernamekiran (talk) 06:33, 10 September 2020 (UTC)