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It’s also tasked with Search and rescue should we try
fire department infobox too? Because there are many missions attached to the department (and under the MoD) is why it has been place under a military box. see also
@
FOX 52:Coast guards (either civilian agency or part of armed force) usually have 3 prevalent roles, which are: maritime law enforcement, maritime search and rescue and border control. Infobox LEA already sums it those roles as seen on the side. some coast guard who are part of armed forces, may have secondary roles on defense, but not as prevalent as those 3 roles above. Regarding
fire dept infobox, refer to its usage section : A fire department infobox may be used for any fire department in the world. It has been specifically designed such that it can work with departments from multiple different countries., so it should not be used for coast guards. Regarding coast guards page that still use military unit infobox, actually it was my plan to change all of them. Again because their role are primarily are those 3 roles not on defense. some coast guard didn't even state defense on their role/task/mission. for example:
Dutch Caribbean Coast Guard ->
role, no mentioned role on defense. Also official website didn't mention relation with navy. Report to Netherlands' attorney general through governors.
Icelandic Coast Guard ->
role, no mentioned role in defense. And, Iceland is the same as
Panama as country without military so military unit infobox shouldn't be used here in the first place.
Well don't just arbitrarily start changing boxes, because "one" of their roles is enforcing fishery laws. I see the LEA box has slots for the badge & patch of their perspective departments. So what are you going to put there? Last time I checked I haven’t any Coast Guard Uniforms with a law enforcement badge. Even your own
is incorrect, for one it’s called a
racing stripe not a flag, (or Service Mark) and the one you applied doesn’t even belong to Sweden, it’s from the Netherlands. –
FOX 52 (
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03:27, 1 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
FOX 52: Refer to
MOS:IBX, infobox should summarizes key features of the page's subject. As I mention earlier, key feature/role of coast guards are
maritime law enforcement (not just fishery law) and maritime search&rescue, not on defense (as defense is minor/secondary role). So, it's not arbitrarily.
Some coast guard also have badge such as USCG as shown on the side. Regarding those parameter, if the are no badges available on WP or commons, then just leave it blank. Or, we can put
Racing stripe since it was commonly found on other coast guard page that uses LEA infobox (unlike badges, all coast guard have this insgina)
To put in your word. Why do you insist to use military unit infobox just because "one" of their minor/secondary roles is defense. Some of coast guards didn't have mention role in defense.
Ckfasdf (
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01:15, 2 June 2020 (UTC)reply
The Military box has more parameters in line than the LEA box does (thats why I showed you the badge situation) -
FOX 52 (
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06:26, 2 June 2020 (UTC)reply
True, military infobox has more parameter for insginia, but more image parameter doesn't justify the usage of that infobox. IMO, it's the purpose of infobox is more justifiable. Afterall, you can put badge image outside infobox.
Ckfasdf (
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06:37, 2 June 2020 (UTC)reply
You have to remember the reader doesn't know the difference between a mil box or a LEA box - But I can't imagine the
L.A.P.D. page with-out it's main symbol the badge not inside the box. And that's why the community (Wikipedia) as a whole has gone with Mil box when it came to Coast Guard users. (the parameters just fit better) -
FOX 52 (
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07:17, 2 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Sorry, but it's
mission said otherwise. It has defence function, but it's predominantly about maritime law enforcement. After all, it was under DoHS.
Ckfasdf (
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22:23, 2 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Hello my name is stated above and I am interested in becoming a member of your search and rescue team.my number is 1758 729-6913 .
I am from the island of st lucia,located in the Caribbean. Please and thanks very much.
69.80.12.149 (
talk)
16:15, 8 December 2022 (UTC)reply
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It’s also tasked with Search and rescue should we try
fire department infobox too? Because there are many missions attached to the department (and under the MoD) is why it has been place under a military box. see also
@
FOX 52:Coast guards (either civilian agency or part of armed force) usually have 3 prevalent roles, which are: maritime law enforcement, maritime search and rescue and border control. Infobox LEA already sums it those roles as seen on the side. some coast guard who are part of armed forces, may have secondary roles on defense, but not as prevalent as those 3 roles above. Regarding
fire dept infobox, refer to its usage section : A fire department infobox may be used for any fire department in the world. It has been specifically designed such that it can work with departments from multiple different countries., so it should not be used for coast guards. Regarding coast guards page that still use military unit infobox, actually it was my plan to change all of them. Again because their role are primarily are those 3 roles not on defense. some coast guard didn't even state defense on their role/task/mission. for example:
Dutch Caribbean Coast Guard ->
role, no mentioned role on defense. Also official website didn't mention relation with navy. Report to Netherlands' attorney general through governors.
Icelandic Coast Guard ->
role, no mentioned role in defense. And, Iceland is the same as
Panama as country without military so military unit infobox shouldn't be used here in the first place.
Well don't just arbitrarily start changing boxes, because "one" of their roles is enforcing fishery laws. I see the LEA box has slots for the badge & patch of their perspective departments. So what are you going to put there? Last time I checked I haven’t any Coast Guard Uniforms with a law enforcement badge. Even your own
is incorrect, for one it’s called a
racing stripe not a flag, (or Service Mark) and the one you applied doesn’t even belong to Sweden, it’s from the Netherlands. –
FOX 52 (
talk)
03:27, 1 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
FOX 52: Refer to
MOS:IBX, infobox should summarizes key features of the page's subject. As I mention earlier, key feature/role of coast guards are
maritime law enforcement (not just fishery law) and maritime search&rescue, not on defense (as defense is minor/secondary role). So, it's not arbitrarily.
Some coast guard also have badge such as USCG as shown on the side. Regarding those parameter, if the are no badges available on WP or commons, then just leave it blank. Or, we can put
Racing stripe since it was commonly found on other coast guard page that uses LEA infobox (unlike badges, all coast guard have this insgina)
To put in your word. Why do you insist to use military unit infobox just because "one" of their minor/secondary roles is defense. Some of coast guards didn't have mention role in defense.
Ckfasdf (
talk)
01:15, 2 June 2020 (UTC)reply
The Military box has more parameters in line than the LEA box does (thats why I showed you the badge situation) -
FOX 52 (
talk)
06:26, 2 June 2020 (UTC)reply
True, military infobox has more parameter for insginia, but more image parameter doesn't justify the usage of that infobox. IMO, it's the purpose of infobox is more justifiable. Afterall, you can put badge image outside infobox.
Ckfasdf (
talk)
06:37, 2 June 2020 (UTC)reply
You have to remember the reader doesn't know the difference between a mil box or a LEA box - But I can't imagine the
L.A.P.D. page with-out it's main symbol the badge not inside the box. And that's why the community (Wikipedia) as a whole has gone with Mil box when it came to Coast Guard users. (the parameters just fit better) -
FOX 52 (
talk)
07:17, 2 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Sorry, but it's
mission said otherwise. It has defence function, but it's predominantly about maritime law enforcement. After all, it was under DoHS.
Ckfasdf (
talk)
22:23, 2 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Hello my name is stated above and I am interested in becoming a member of your search and rescue team.my number is 1758 729-6913 .
I am from the island of st lucia,located in the Caribbean. Please and thanks very much.
69.80.12.149 (
talk)
16:15, 8 December 2022 (UTC)reply