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There is a discussion on the Frigate article which editors here may be interested in. 88.106.112.57 ( talk) 11:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
This may be a stub, as yet, but what is there is of excellent quality. Especially the description of the Dutch commitment in and withdrawal from Uruzgan is handled accurately and evenhanded. My compliments! VNCCC ( talk) 04:32, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved ( non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs ( talk) 17:29, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Armed forces of the Netherlands → Dutch Armed Forces – This is translation of Nederlandse krijgsmacht. Shadow4dark ( talk) 16:59, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Jack Frost ( talk) 14:25, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Dutch Armed Forces →
Netherlands Armed Forces – (currently a redirect) Explanation below.
Broadly speaking, the adjective "Dutch" refers to the language and the people (
nation) of the Netherlands (
demonym), but only situationally in referring to the country in relating to the
state (polity).
The official and formal adjective for the country in relating to the state, as used by the government of the Netherlands itself, is "Netherlands", or "Netherlands'" (with an additional apostrophe (')) when possessive.
The related Wiktionary pages:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Netherlands#Adjective,
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Dutch#Adjective,
Some examples: the
Netherlands Marine Corps,
Royal Netherlands Army,
Netherlands Coastguard,
Netherlands national football team and the former
Netherlands Antilles.
For comparison's sake, also note:
Arab (people),
Arabic (language) and
Arabian (country/region), and note the naming of the
United States Armed Forces instead of "American Armed Forces".
There are many exceptions to this rule, including terms such as the
Dutch empire,
Dutch Caribbean, and subsequent modern-day
Dutch Caribbean Coast Guard.
The nature of these exceptions is largely based in imperial history, in which they are linguistically "belonging or subject to the Dutch people".
Some of this naming scheme in modern use, like those above is retained for the sake of tradition or historical purposes, and is sometimes used for informality.
No linguistic exception is however applicable to the Netherlands Armed Forces, as the Ministry of Defence confirms the correct usage in the following brochure concerning the ranks and insignia of the Netherlands Armed Forces:
https://english.defensie.nl/downloads/leaflets/2016/12/19/the-rank-insignias.
There may be other pages on Wikipedia which erroneously use the adjective "Dutch" where "Netherlands" is correct, I will do my best to inventory these below.
Additionally, I will move to change the list on the following page to reflect both forms as correct usage depending on context:
List of adjectival and demonymic forms for countries and nations.
- Other pages that would require name change, found so far:
Military ranks of the Dutch armed forces
- Other pages that would NOT require name change, found so far, with source when applicable:
Dutch Military Intelligence and Security Service per:
https://english.defensie.nl/latest/news/2019/05/08/a-look-at-the-defence-news-29-april-%E2%80%93-6-may
Dutch Equal Treatment Commission per:
https://old.polonia.nl/wp-content/uploads/The-Dutch-Equal-Treatment-Commission-English.pdf
Dutch Safety Board
Dutch royal house
- Jurryaany ( talk) 20:30, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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![]() | On 18 March 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Dutch Armed Forces to Netherlands Armed Forces. The result of the discussion was moved. |
There is a discussion on the Frigate article which editors here may be interested in. 88.106.112.57 ( talk) 11:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
This may be a stub, as yet, but what is there is of excellent quality. Especially the description of the Dutch commitment in and withdrawal from Uruzgan is handled accurately and evenhanded. My compliments! VNCCC ( talk) 04:32, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved ( non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs ( talk) 17:29, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Armed forces of the Netherlands → Dutch Armed Forces – This is translation of Nederlandse krijgsmacht. Shadow4dark ( talk) 16:59, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Jack Frost ( talk) 14:25, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Dutch Armed Forces →
Netherlands Armed Forces – (currently a redirect) Explanation below.
Broadly speaking, the adjective "Dutch" refers to the language and the people (
nation) of the Netherlands (
demonym), but only situationally in referring to the country in relating to the
state (polity).
The official and formal adjective for the country in relating to the state, as used by the government of the Netherlands itself, is "Netherlands", or "Netherlands'" (with an additional apostrophe (')) when possessive.
The related Wiktionary pages:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Netherlands#Adjective,
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Dutch#Adjective,
Some examples: the
Netherlands Marine Corps,
Royal Netherlands Army,
Netherlands Coastguard,
Netherlands national football team and the former
Netherlands Antilles.
For comparison's sake, also note:
Arab (people),
Arabic (language) and
Arabian (country/region), and note the naming of the
United States Armed Forces instead of "American Armed Forces".
There are many exceptions to this rule, including terms such as the
Dutch empire,
Dutch Caribbean, and subsequent modern-day
Dutch Caribbean Coast Guard.
The nature of these exceptions is largely based in imperial history, in which they are linguistically "belonging or subject to the Dutch people".
Some of this naming scheme in modern use, like those above is retained for the sake of tradition or historical purposes, and is sometimes used for informality.
No linguistic exception is however applicable to the Netherlands Armed Forces, as the Ministry of Defence confirms the correct usage in the following brochure concerning the ranks and insignia of the Netherlands Armed Forces:
https://english.defensie.nl/downloads/leaflets/2016/12/19/the-rank-insignias.
There may be other pages on Wikipedia which erroneously use the adjective "Dutch" where "Netherlands" is correct, I will do my best to inventory these below.
Additionally, I will move to change the list on the following page to reflect both forms as correct usage depending on context:
List of adjectival and demonymic forms for countries and nations.
- Other pages that would require name change, found so far:
Military ranks of the Dutch armed forces
- Other pages that would NOT require name change, found so far, with source when applicable:
Dutch Military Intelligence and Security Service per:
https://english.defensie.nl/latest/news/2019/05/08/a-look-at-the-defence-news-29-april-%E2%80%93-6-may
Dutch Equal Treatment Commission per:
https://old.polonia.nl/wp-content/uploads/The-Dutch-Equal-Treatment-Commission-English.pdf
Dutch Safety Board
Dutch royal house
- Jurryaany ( talk) 20:30, 18 March 2021 (UTC)