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Finland had a notorious neo-Nazi leader Pekka Siitoin (1944-2003). He started as an ardent anticommunist who organized terror campaign against pro-communist media. In 1976 one of his followers burned communist printing house. Siitoin was jailed. After his release from prison in 1982, he demanded overthrow of goverment and forming a new regime based on fascism. He did get much media coverage. Si, he ended up calling himself the Fuehrer of Finland. He used swastika flag as his symbol and promoted nazism. He received lot of media coverage in the 1990s. However, he was out of date. He continued his neo-Nazism until his death (2003).
Source: Iiro Nordling; Long Shadow of Finland’s Fuehrer: Life and legacy of the notorious Finnish occult neo-Nazi Pekka Siitoin. Amazon 2021. ISBN 979-8546175634.
Don't a significant number of neo-nazis oppose christianity since it's from the same branch of religion as judaism and islam? Firekong1 ( talk) 02:56, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
I was browsing the article and came across the line "they frequently adhere to Polish nationalism and National Democracy, in which Nazism is generally considered to be against ultra-nationalist principles, and although they are classed as nationalist and fascist movements, they are at the same time considered anti-Nazi." In the Poland section of the article and was confused since multiple times in the article it clearly labels ultra-nationalism as a prominent feature of Neo-Nazism. Doesn't seem quite correct that Poland is unique in it's usage of far-right ultra-nationalism. I get that there are the issues of that the Polish groups *sometimes* renounce certain aspects of Nazism, but that hardly makes a group not Neo-Nazi or even Anti-Nazi, especially considering that it is against Polish Law and anything they say to separate themselves from Nazism is likely so that their group or party isn't disbanded and isn't based on true ideological motive. Otherwise you could use this line of thinking for many of the subsections of the articles as many Neo-Nazi groups have separated themselves from traditional Nazism to deflect blame or responsibility. The only time that you could maybe consider the Polish ultra-nationalism movements truly Anti-Nazi was probably during the Resistance movements, and even then many eventually found themselves siding with the Nazis. Regardless, just seems like an odd sentence as Neo-Nazism isn't actually opposed to ultra-nationalism, even by the own article's admission. 2600:8801:BE28:E100:9DAF:C0BB:AAE1:5CF ( talk) 15:28, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
The thumbnail picture for neo-nazism is a picture of gore. Is that intentional? Apologies if this has already been discussed, I didn't find anything regarding this when I looked, but am also quite new. Oxturn ( talk) 21:20, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to change the text for Around The World/Denmark, as it is incorrect. The Party of The Danes was not formally a neo nazi party, although they had roots in the movement. I would also like to add information about The National Socialist Movement of Denmark, as it was a more legitimate neo nazi party. Soren84 ( talk) 22:06, 9 April 2024 (UTC) Soren84 ( talk) 22:06, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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The National Socialist Movement of Denmark was formed in 1991, and was formally a neo nazi party, that would actively promote the nazi ideology in Denmark. The party did not gain any political influence, and were regarded as a failed political project by neo nazi expert Frede Farmand (source: https://www.information.dk/indland/2010/10/politik-politi-sag). Long time party leader Johnni Hansen was replaced by Esben Rohde Kristensen in 2010, which resulted in a large amount of party members leaving the party. While the party never has been formally dissolved, there has been very little activity from its core member since 2010 (source: https://ekstrabladet.dk/krimi/nazi-veteran-begraver-dnsb-vi-har-ingen-foerer-mere/9038719). Former neo nazi Daniel Carlsen formed the small national party Party of the Danes, which officially rejected nazism, but were none the less categorized as such by professor in politics Peter Nedergaard (source: https://web.archive.org/web/20150427194356/http://www.b.dk/nationalt/hovedrysten-over-nyt-parti-paa-den-yderste-hoejrefloej). The Party of The Danes was dissolved in 2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soren84 ( talk • contribs) 18:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Nazism is a right-wing ideology. The consensus of political scientists, historians, and other reliable sources is that Nazism is a right-wing ideology and not a left-wing one. This has been discussed numerous times. Please see this FAQ and read the talk page archives.Please do not request that "right-wing" be changed to "left-wing"; your request will be denied, and you may be blocked from editing if you persist in doing so. |
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Finland had a notorious neo-Nazi leader Pekka Siitoin (1944-2003). He started as an ardent anticommunist who organized terror campaign against pro-communist media. In 1976 one of his followers burned communist printing house. Siitoin was jailed. After his release from prison in 1982, he demanded overthrow of goverment and forming a new regime based on fascism. He did get much media coverage. Si, he ended up calling himself the Fuehrer of Finland. He used swastika flag as his symbol and promoted nazism. He received lot of media coverage in the 1990s. However, he was out of date. He continued his neo-Nazism until his death (2003).
Source: Iiro Nordling; Long Shadow of Finland’s Fuehrer: Life and legacy of the notorious Finnish occult neo-Nazi Pekka Siitoin. Amazon 2021. ISBN 979-8546175634.
Don't a significant number of neo-nazis oppose christianity since it's from the same branch of religion as judaism and islam? Firekong1 ( talk) 02:56, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
I was browsing the article and came across the line "they frequently adhere to Polish nationalism and National Democracy, in which Nazism is generally considered to be against ultra-nationalist principles, and although they are classed as nationalist and fascist movements, they are at the same time considered anti-Nazi." In the Poland section of the article and was confused since multiple times in the article it clearly labels ultra-nationalism as a prominent feature of Neo-Nazism. Doesn't seem quite correct that Poland is unique in it's usage of far-right ultra-nationalism. I get that there are the issues of that the Polish groups *sometimes* renounce certain aspects of Nazism, but that hardly makes a group not Neo-Nazi or even Anti-Nazi, especially considering that it is against Polish Law and anything they say to separate themselves from Nazism is likely so that their group or party isn't disbanded and isn't based on true ideological motive. Otherwise you could use this line of thinking for many of the subsections of the articles as many Neo-Nazi groups have separated themselves from traditional Nazism to deflect blame or responsibility. The only time that you could maybe consider the Polish ultra-nationalism movements truly Anti-Nazi was probably during the Resistance movements, and even then many eventually found themselves siding with the Nazis. Regardless, just seems like an odd sentence as Neo-Nazism isn't actually opposed to ultra-nationalism, even by the own article's admission. 2600:8801:BE28:E100:9DAF:C0BB:AAE1:5CF ( talk) 15:28, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
The thumbnail picture for neo-nazism is a picture of gore. Is that intentional? Apologies if this has already been discussed, I didn't find anything regarding this when I looked, but am also quite new. Oxturn ( talk) 21:20, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to change the text for Around The World/Denmark, as it is incorrect. The Party of The Danes was not formally a neo nazi party, although they had roots in the movement. I would also like to add information about The National Socialist Movement of Denmark, as it was a more legitimate neo nazi party. Soren84 ( talk) 22:06, 9 April 2024 (UTC) Soren84 ( talk) 22:06, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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The National Socialist Movement of Denmark was formed in 1991, and was formally a neo nazi party, that would actively promote the nazi ideology in Denmark. The party did not gain any political influence, and were regarded as a failed political project by neo nazi expert Frede Farmand (source: https://www.information.dk/indland/2010/10/politik-politi-sag). Long time party leader Johnni Hansen was replaced by Esben Rohde Kristensen in 2010, which resulted in a large amount of party members leaving the party. While the party never has been formally dissolved, there has been very little activity from its core member since 2010 (source: https://ekstrabladet.dk/krimi/nazi-veteran-begraver-dnsb-vi-har-ingen-foerer-mere/9038719). Former neo nazi Daniel Carlsen formed the small national party Party of the Danes, which officially rejected nazism, but were none the less categorized as such by professor in politics Peter Nedergaard (source: https://web.archive.org/web/20150427194356/http://www.b.dk/nationalt/hovedrysten-over-nyt-parti-paa-den-yderste-hoejrefloej). The Party of The Danes was dissolved in 2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soren84 ( talk • contribs) 18:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)