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Wasn't the name of the song When does a dream begin, not where? Fkh82 23:21, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Considering what a cult figure Innes is, you'd think this entry would be better written. -- 62.255.236.92 01:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
No! No! No! Innes did not write this song. It is a genuine old music hall number credited to (Evans/Damerell/Hargreaves). The Bonzos used to trawl the markets for old 75s and then do camped up versions - this is how they started off before writing their own songs. Other favourites include Jolity Farm, My Brother Makes the Noises for the Movies and Ali Baba's Camel.
I've removed the section referring to the song as an Innes original - what a pity you chose this one to hang so much of your analysis on!
I've also changed "early 1970s" to "1960s" which is more accurate here. But this is a ramshackle page! Commas everywhere! 86.20.55.243 08:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)Graeme
You meant 78s. More importantly, Neil was on at least one of the Secret Policeman's Ball albums. (I only have the 1979 one.) Let's see how long it takes me to think up the best way to mention that in the article. His The World isn't on here either. Don't worry, kids; I'll be back. IanHistor 10:27, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
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I did a very recent interview with Neil Innes- can I add it to external links? No advertising, I can just upload it somewhere. He doesn't interview often. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Razamatazz ( talk • contribs) 02:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC). Razamatazz
I've also heard this quote in a video by the Legendary Stardust Cowboy, but I don't know who took it from whom. If anyone can help... -- Gorpik 15:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
It's hard to say , when Neil started using the phrase. But the first recorded version I can think of is on the "Monty Python:Live At City Center" album , where he uses it as an introduction to "Protest Song". Those shows were in April of 1976. But , it's quite possible he was using it back in the Bonzo days ... he still uses it to date.
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Just heard Neil Innes on the radio mentioning a certain well known band. Someone asked if they were 'as good as the Beatles'. Douglas Adams replied, 'as good as the Beatles! - they're not even as good as the Rutles!' Ian Dunster ( talk) 13:49, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
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Whereas Neil was involved in the last series of "Monty Python" , he has stated a few times at live performance Q&A sessions , that he is NOT the one playing the "Liberty Bell March" on guitar during the closing credits of the final show. ( He suspects , if it was anybody , that it was Eric Idle. ) Harvey J Satan ( talk) 00:14, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
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In the 'Early Life' section it says, "where he majored in drama". The UK education system does not have the concept of 'majoring'. This is because UK degrees are more specialised than American degrees; typically a single subject is studied, or two subjects to an equal level (known as a joint degree). Some degrees include subsidiary or ancillary subjects, which are studied in the first year, but these are not usually mentioned when the degree itself is described. I will amend the text with a more appropriate wording. Urselius ( talk) 07:53, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
Although it is touched upon in the main article , Neil's Monty Python work is much more than noted.
For example ,
on film:
Python solo works …
On record ( not including compilations ):
And books:
And of course on stage:
Okay … on reflection , it's a lot. But , it would beef up his filmography and discography sections! Just saying. 75.104.162.136 ( talk) 19:46, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Hope no one minds. He is sort of a renaissance man. But , most of all , it was really bugging me to see an entry that included a discography of the 1 album/1 single band "The World" & the 3 albums/2 singles band "GRIMMS" … but ZERO on The Bonzo Dog Band! So , I've amended it. ( Readers can press the already noted "Bonzo" link , within the main body of the article for their own amusements. )
Would it be useful or pointless to include MORE discography? He's certainly been on a few other people's albums , and produced a few to boot. ( John Entwhitle's "Smash Your Face Against The Wall" , and The Scaffold's "Fresh Liver" , come to mind. ) ( Oh , and the Monty Python stuff … wonder who reminded me of that? ) Harvey J Satan ( talk) 18:50, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
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I don't know of a source for this, but I can't think of anyone else. Apepper ( talk) 19:38, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
Why can't tributes be illustrated with any quotes exactly? In fact it seems a little trite, not to say pointless, to simply say "so-and-so paid tribute" without giving at least a sample of what they said. Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 10:10, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
The NME claims here that Innes studied drawing at Central. This seems unlikely if he was studying Fine Art full time at Goldsmiths. Stanshall and Smith were certainly at Central. But is there any better source that NME to support the claim for Innes? Martinevans123 ( talk) 16:38, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
When they toured the UK back in 2000 or so Neil Innes appeared with them as a guest artiste. We saw them at the RNCM in Manchester! 94.173.233.10 ( talk) 18:55, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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Wasn't the name of the song When does a dream begin, not where? Fkh82 23:21, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Considering what a cult figure Innes is, you'd think this entry would be better written. -- 62.255.236.92 01:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
No! No! No! Innes did not write this song. It is a genuine old music hall number credited to (Evans/Damerell/Hargreaves). The Bonzos used to trawl the markets for old 75s and then do camped up versions - this is how they started off before writing their own songs. Other favourites include Jolity Farm, My Brother Makes the Noises for the Movies and Ali Baba's Camel.
I've removed the section referring to the song as an Innes original - what a pity you chose this one to hang so much of your analysis on!
I've also changed "early 1970s" to "1960s" which is more accurate here. But this is a ramshackle page! Commas everywhere! 86.20.55.243 08:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)Graeme
You meant 78s. More importantly, Neil was on at least one of the Secret Policeman's Ball albums. (I only have the 1979 one.) Let's see how long it takes me to think up the best way to mention that in the article. His The World isn't on here either. Don't worry, kids; I'll be back. IanHistor 10:27, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
I did a very recent interview with Neil Innes- can I add it to external links? No advertising, I can just upload it somewhere. He doesn't interview often. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Razamatazz ( talk • contribs) 02:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC). Razamatazz
I've also heard this quote in a video by the Legendary Stardust Cowboy, but I don't know who took it from whom. If anyone can help... -- Gorpik 15:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
It's hard to say , when Neil started using the phrase. But the first recorded version I can think of is on the "Monty Python:Live At City Center" album , where he uses it as an introduction to "Protest Song". Those shows were in April of 1976. But , it's quite possible he was using it back in the Bonzo days ... he still uses it to date.
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Just heard Neil Innes on the radio mentioning a certain well known band. Someone asked if they were 'as good as the Beatles'. Douglas Adams replied, 'as good as the Beatles! - they're not even as good as the Rutles!' Ian Dunster ( talk) 13:49, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
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Whereas Neil was involved in the last series of "Monty Python" , he has stated a few times at live performance Q&A sessions , that he is NOT the one playing the "Liberty Bell March" on guitar during the closing credits of the final show. ( He suspects , if it was anybody , that it was Eric Idle. ) Harvey J Satan ( talk) 00:14, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
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Although it is touched upon in the main article , Neil's Monty Python work is much more than noted.
For example ,
on film:
Python solo works …
On record ( not including compilations ):
And books:
And of course on stage:
Okay … on reflection , it's a lot. But , it would beef up his filmography and discography sections! Just saying. 75.104.162.136 ( talk) 19:46, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Hope no one minds. He is sort of a renaissance man. But , most of all , it was really bugging me to see an entry that included a discography of the 1 album/1 single band "The World" & the 3 albums/2 singles band "GRIMMS" … but ZERO on The Bonzo Dog Band! So , I've amended it. ( Readers can press the already noted "Bonzo" link , within the main body of the article for their own amusements. )
Would it be useful or pointless to include MORE discography? He's certainly been on a few other people's albums , and produced a few to boot. ( John Entwhitle's "Smash Your Face Against The Wall" , and The Scaffold's "Fresh Liver" , come to mind. ) ( Oh , and the Monty Python stuff … wonder who reminded me of that? ) Harvey J Satan ( talk) 18:50, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
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I don't know of a source for this, but I can't think of anyone else. Apepper ( talk) 19:38, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
Why can't tributes be illustrated with any quotes exactly? In fact it seems a little trite, not to say pointless, to simply say "so-and-so paid tribute" without giving at least a sample of what they said. Thanks. Martinevans123 ( talk) 10:10, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
The NME claims here that Innes studied drawing at Central. This seems unlikely if he was studying Fine Art full time at Goldsmiths. Stanshall and Smith were certainly at Central. But is there any better source that NME to support the claim for Innes? Martinevans123 ( talk) 16:38, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
When they toured the UK back in 2000 or so Neil Innes appeared with them as a guest artiste. We saw them at the RNCM in Manchester! 94.173.233.10 ( talk) 18:55, 21 August 2023 (UTC)