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Neerja: The Story of a Brave Air Hostess Neerja Bhanot
Prakhar Sahay ( talk) 00:30, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
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Please delete 8th bullet of cast, Abrar Zahoor as Safarini as it is already mentioned in the 5th bullet point, Abrar Zahoor as Zayd Safarini. Snowyplayer ( talk) 18:22, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
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please add ‘it was futher reported that Neerja has now been tax-free in Delhi and UP also" to the text "It was reported on 24 February, 2016 that the film had been declared tax free by Maharashtra state government" Source= " http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Sonam-Kapoors-Neerja-now-tax-free-in-Delhi-and-UP/articleshow/51159118.cms" Arunkumar1576 ( talk) 20:05, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
In these edits, I removed content from the plot section. The point of a plot section is to provide an overview of the film's plot and I don't think all of the details presented in that run-on sentence are germane to our understanding of the film's plot. We're not writing a historical article, we're summarizing a film. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 07:00, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
In these edits [1] [2], I reverted content submitted by Mr. Smart LION. Firstly, he restored a summary of overseas critical response without providing a reference for that summary, which I'd previously removed here. We can't cherrypick positive reviews and then describe those reviews as positive. There's too much of an opportunity to confirm our own bias. If I hated the movie, all I would need to do is fill the section with negative reviews and write "the film was received poorly overseas". We should be quoting specific voices when we summarize overall response. Secondly, the marketing section, while added in good faith, only details the mundane, which contravenes WP:TRAILER. There's nothing special about appearing somewhere to discuss the film. Actors do that all the time for every movie. It's mundane. I'm baffled by the inclusion of content about the sheer top she was wearing. I don't comprehend why that would be noted in an encyclopedia. It's completely ridiculous and I can imagine any number of people would perceive that to be sexist, because we almost certainly wouldn't mention a man's sheer top. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 17:55, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
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Done with second issue. Please explain the first one by giving examples. Mr. Smart ℒION ⋠ ☎️ ✍⋡ 13:12, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
Also done with the first issue. Mr. Smart ℒION ⋠ ☎️ ✍⋡ 15:28, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
I will go through the article tomorrow. Numerounovedant Talk 15:56, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
There are more such instances.
So, I think the article is not ready for a GA and needs fair amount of work. I will be happy to help once the review is closed. Numerounovedant Talk 12:14, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Well, I really did not want to do this but here we go- This is just from the "Development and Casting section"(and is mostly the entire section)"
From the "Plot"
And that is just from the first four paragraphs (again practically everything has an issue)
From the "Box Office"
From "Awards"
Side note- How does Arvind Kejriwal qualify as a critic? I wouldn't even get into the rest, and I stand by the fact that the article is way short of GA standard. Numerounovedant Talk 18:11, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
The article has clearly not been prepared enough for a GAR. Numerounovedant Talk 18:16, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
References Too many inconsistencies - Koimoi is not supposed to Italicised, neither is BH. ref 1 doesn't have any publisher. CNN is now News 18. Numerounovedant Talk 18:20, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I'll start from scratch then. Numerounovedant Talk 07:55, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
I Stand by the fact that the section is cluttered with quotes and has little substance. Numerounovedant Talk 06:43, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
I've resolved all the above issues. Even "Production" section of Ek Main Aur Ekk Tu has many quotes, and it's short too. In the case of Neerja the section is big enough. Mr. Smart ℒION ⋠ ☎️ ✍⋡ 16:22, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
Done Mr. Smart ℒION ⋠ ☎️ ✍⋡ 17:56, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
After the concerns are addressed I'll give the final verdict. Numerounovedant Talk 09:27, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Mr. Smart LION, do you have a reason for silently restoring the Marketing section to the article after I removed it for contravening WP:TRAILER? It's not much different from what you originally added, so per WP:BRD, the onus is yours to open a discussion when content you submit is reverted. I'm doing that for you here. Mundane marketing techniques, like making an appearance somewhere, is not noteworthy. Per WP:TRAILER:
The bold text appears in the guideline, so it must be important. Mentioning that she appeared somewhere is what I would consider merely identifying customary marketing methods. And "She thanked Bachchan for making her a part of his show." Of course she did. That's what you do when someone has you on a television show--you thank them. When someone invites you to a party, you thank them. This is not news. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:09, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
Additionally, I have removed this content, which is just an extension of mundane marketing. They released a trailer. Big deal. And why do we care about the release of a logo? This is completely not important information... Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:17, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
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Neerja: The Story of a Brave Air Hostess Neerja Bhanot
Prakhar Sahay ( talk) 00:30, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
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Please delete 8th bullet of cast, Abrar Zahoor as Safarini as it is already mentioned in the 5th bullet point, Abrar Zahoor as Zayd Safarini. Snowyplayer ( talk) 18:22, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
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please add ‘it was futher reported that Neerja has now been tax-free in Delhi and UP also" to the text "It was reported on 24 February, 2016 that the film had been declared tax free by Maharashtra state government" Source= " http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Sonam-Kapoors-Neerja-now-tax-free-in-Delhi-and-UP/articleshow/51159118.cms" Arunkumar1576 ( talk) 20:05, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
In these edits, I removed content from the plot section. The point of a plot section is to provide an overview of the film's plot and I don't think all of the details presented in that run-on sentence are germane to our understanding of the film's plot. We're not writing a historical article, we're summarizing a film. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 07:00, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
In these edits [1] [2], I reverted content submitted by Mr. Smart LION. Firstly, he restored a summary of overseas critical response without providing a reference for that summary, which I'd previously removed here. We can't cherrypick positive reviews and then describe those reviews as positive. There's too much of an opportunity to confirm our own bias. If I hated the movie, all I would need to do is fill the section with negative reviews and write "the film was received poorly overseas". We should be quoting specific voices when we summarize overall response. Secondly, the marketing section, while added in good faith, only details the mundane, which contravenes WP:TRAILER. There's nothing special about appearing somewhere to discuss the film. Actors do that all the time for every movie. It's mundane. I'm baffled by the inclusion of content about the sheer top she was wearing. I don't comprehend why that would be noted in an encyclopedia. It's completely ridiculous and I can imagine any number of people would perceive that to be sexist, because we almost certainly wouldn't mention a man's sheer top. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 17:55, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
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Will go through this soon.
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Done with second issue. Please explain the first one by giving examples. Mr. Smart ℒION ⋠ ☎️ ✍⋡ 13:12, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
Also done with the first issue. Mr. Smart ℒION ⋠ ☎️ ✍⋡ 15:28, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
I will go through the article tomorrow. Numerounovedant Talk 15:56, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
There are more such instances.
So, I think the article is not ready for a GA and needs fair amount of work. I will be happy to help once the review is closed. Numerounovedant Talk 12:14, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Well, I really did not want to do this but here we go- This is just from the "Development and Casting section"(and is mostly the entire section)"
From the "Plot"
And that is just from the first four paragraphs (again practically everything has an issue)
From the "Box Office"
From "Awards"
Side note- How does Arvind Kejriwal qualify as a critic? I wouldn't even get into the rest, and I stand by the fact that the article is way short of GA standard. Numerounovedant Talk 18:11, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
The article has clearly not been prepared enough for a GAR. Numerounovedant Talk 18:16, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
References Too many inconsistencies - Koimoi is not supposed to Italicised, neither is BH. ref 1 doesn't have any publisher. CNN is now News 18. Numerounovedant Talk 18:20, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I'll start from scratch then. Numerounovedant Talk 07:55, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
I Stand by the fact that the section is cluttered with quotes and has little substance. Numerounovedant Talk 06:43, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
I've resolved all the above issues. Even "Production" section of Ek Main Aur Ekk Tu has many quotes, and it's short too. In the case of Neerja the section is big enough. Mr. Smart ℒION ⋠ ☎️ ✍⋡ 16:22, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
Done Mr. Smart ℒION ⋠ ☎️ ✍⋡ 17:56, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
After the concerns are addressed I'll give the final verdict. Numerounovedant Talk 09:27, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Mr. Smart LION, do you have a reason for silently restoring the Marketing section to the article after I removed it for contravening WP:TRAILER? It's not much different from what you originally added, so per WP:BRD, the onus is yours to open a discussion when content you submit is reverted. I'm doing that for you here. Mundane marketing techniques, like making an appearance somewhere, is not noteworthy. Per WP:TRAILER:
The bold text appears in the guideline, so it must be important. Mentioning that she appeared somewhere is what I would consider merely identifying customary marketing methods. And "She thanked Bachchan for making her a part of his show." Of course she did. That's what you do when someone has you on a television show--you thank them. When someone invites you to a party, you thank them. This is not news. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:09, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
Additionally, I have removed this content, which is just an extension of mundane marketing. They released a trailer. Big deal. And why do we care about the release of a logo? This is completely not important information... Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:17, 9 June 2016 (UTC)