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Hai I think there are enough reference for other star casts in Neerali. please check here [ [1]] and [ [2]] Thank you Yourmistake ( talk) 16:53, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
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Parvatii nair and Suraj doing star roles in their previous films.and sources clearly says they are doing main lead roles. [3] I believe they deserve to be in star cast Yourmistake ( talk) 03:15, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Ok then we have to add both Parvaty and Nadhiya as female star cast in the movie... many sources clearly mentioned even before the film starts there will be two female leads.. before they were trying to cast meena and trisha ..one is mohanlals wife(Nadhiya) who has less screen space and Parvatii (more screenspace) I dont know what is the exact rule here in wikipedia while adding star roles.I checked and noticed many other movies all included important cast as star cast.I dont know why experienced editor like you fights for this. Yourmistake ( talk) 16:45, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
I wanted to know wikipedia policy about adding star casts in a film.because there are many upcoming films example Kayamkulam Kochunni (2018 film) take a look at the star cast( mohanlal doing a extended cameo.giving him top star credits.and many others too)I mentioned Kayamkulam kochunni because --Let There Be Sunshine is one of the main editors there. Kammara_Sambhavam, Ranam (2018 film)I can give many examples.why its all differ from Neerali .Please make one rule for every article. Yourmistake ( talk) 18:25, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
List of Malayalam films of 2018#Scheduled please check out the star cast. many of films star cast arranged by considering some of the relevant sources like
neerali has. here there are some some relevant sources clearly mentioned
Parvatii Nair and
Nadhiya doing important roles.example
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[8]
[9]
[10]
Indian express,times of india,Mathrubhumi some of the leading news papers in India. this is enough reference for giving them star credits
Yourmistake (
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02:43, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
waiting for third opinion from admins...I dont understand your point.when some of resources clearly proves the star cast.how can we not include the star cast. thank you..
Yourmistake (
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21:43, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
I explained it many times. even your point is not clear. removing them from star cast because of benefit of doubt doesn't make this article complete or true. Adding the star cast = not adding the star cast in this case of your explanation my point is clear there are enough reference for parvatii and nadhia... they deserve to be in star cast Yourmistake ( talk) 17:18, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello I dont Know why are you people doing this,,, I m not trying to change anything .. I know you have good circle in wikipedia.. am not here for
a edit war. I dont have any problem if you trying to change n make trouble in
Parvatii_Nair page.if you want to play a fair game stop it.
because of me dont try to make difficulties to some hardworking girl. do you have any personal problem with her? am not changing anything in neerali again.
Yourmistake (
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20:01, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
And other questions.parvatii nair was there from the first day shoot of neerali. there are alot of references regarding it.and nadia casted in the middle
of shoot. when our edit dispute started I made a research on this subject. Am someone who works in malayalam film industry I can easily get the info.
I know that is not relevant here.I even researched on previous film of same production nimir.same problem happened even there.and we know how it ended up.
so from now on am not editing in neerali. am sorry if i did any trouble to you. thank you
Yourmistake (
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20:29, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
3O Response: It does seem that news reports differ between Parvatii Nair and Nadhiya Moidu as the female lead (yes, that is a genuine category; that's why they have Best Leading Actress awards at awards ceremonies), so it might be best not to have either of them in the first sentence of the article or in the infobox. But there is certainly no reason to exclude them and others from the article altogether. I suggest something like, "Nadhiya Moidu plays the main character's wife, Parvatii Nair has a major role, and Suraj Venjaramoodu and Saikumar also appear." All of that is adequately sourced in the refs in the article and on this page.
Scolaire (
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12:05, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
brother , hope you seen the new poster of neerali .. I changed the cast according to the poster credit.. I am not interfered your cast changes before because I understood you changed it seeing the teaser. hope my changes is fine with you. thank you Yourmistake ( talk) 09:29, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Tony bro , why did you change the official poster and credit order .. we all know by trailer,posters all who all starring the movie Yourmistake ( talk) 19:28, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Pls watch the latest trailer and latest poster upload the super star himself. I dont want to fight pls understand and tell a solution
Yourmistake (
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19:44, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
please be careful when you judge and warn someone saying about log out edits... why did you think suraj doing main roles after mohanlal... film is not released by trailers and poster only we can say the cast order,,, I am ok if the cast order is mohanlal,nadiya,parvatii,suraj... pls stop making trouble in parvatii nair page because of the dispute in neerali page . its not good for a good wikipedia editor. if you are not a paid editor Yourmistake ( talk) 20:19, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
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Hi there, Why is the page protected? Thought to add details or infos regarding the movie. So any specific reasons? Will permission be given for editing? Weedo vivek ( talk) 12:47, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, there also seems to be a fight going on between related people one for and against adding Parvatii Nair. All of them seem to be related to the actress. I don't see any reason to fight over adding her name in the infobox or any other sentences or Leave the article as it is. We should not be editing the article for personal matters like soft-corner or vendetta. Also, this article is not in encyclopedia format and needs a lot of modifications and people can contribute and add lots of facts regarding the movie to make it more complete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.5.111.108 ( talk) 09:56, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
1. The Production and Financial information provided in the article doesn't have any reference 2. The poster in the infobox can be updated to the poster which has been termed as the official poster of the movie and was released by Mohanlal [1]
There are lot more improvements that can be made. Encyclopedia format is in reference to the use of English language Szzs.vsn ( talk) 12:53, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
--Let There Be Sunshine That news article that has been referenced previously is a valid proof that it was indeed the official poster of the movie not the one that is currently being displayed. Its validity has been confirmed by Mohanlal Sir himself. So it is the only poster certified as official poster by him. Hence I am changing the poster to the one which has been certified officially. If you have any suggestions let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seetharaghavan ( talk • contribs) 12:39, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Can we proceed with the edits?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.18.182.18 ( talk) 07:05, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
The edits made by me are proper and most of them are Language corrections. The cast details are well established through most of the reference provided in the article itself. Also, I closed lots of missing link through my edits. There doesn't seem to be any legitimate reason for reversing my edits. Please explain the Edits. DunsonDavis ( talk) 11:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I edited the article to improve the readability and organization. I also added references to the facts mentioned in the introduction part. Nobody needs to take your word for copy editing. You have been blocking all reasonable changes in the article without any explanations. Your explanations are that it's unnecessary which is not an explanation. Please give reasons why we should not include the core cast members in the introduction and infobox, which has been well established from multiple references given in the article. Why shouldn't we add a reference to the announcement of the release date? Why we should not mention that the Principal photography was completed in a record timing of 36 days with proper reference [2]. Why we should not add the genre to the movie while the movie director has mentioned it to be Drama Thriller in a news minute interview [3]. Why we should not change the poster that is on display with the only poster that has been mentioned as official poster. [4] You cant argue that all posters are official. The word "official" has been mentioned in only one poster release. DunsonDavis ( talk) 15:25, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
References
I have requested for the Third opinion do not revert the changes until we get one. Please check https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Third_opinion&action=edit§ion=3&editintro=Wikipedia%3AThird+opinion%2FInstructions DunsonDavis ( talk) 16:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
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The official Facebook Page of the movie [1] have said another poster to be the official poster. [2] Thats the only poster with the tag of official among the posters released. It is also used by the verified page as the Profile picture irrespection other poster releases. Can we change the poster. DunsonDavis ( talk) 05:41, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Seetharaghavan: I did not said that the poster you are referring is not an official poster. Mohanlal has shared other posters too in his Facebook page. Haven't you seen that ? Of course you haven't, as the only poster you want here is the one promoting Parvatii Nair. And it's a square poster designed to fit as a Facebook profile picture. The official posters do not limit to the posters shared by Mohanlal. The current poster is also an official poster released by the production team and there are numerous other posters. All posters can be seen in the verified Facebook page of Neerali, Mohanlal and other crew members. On an other note: stop creating more and more user accounts, it's useless and can only get you in trouble. --Let There Be Sunshine 14:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
You talk like all other Wiki editors are fools and can be easily tricked. We pass through many editors like you here daily. It's time for you to stop the drama. --Let There Be Sunshine 09:40, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Please show reference where the poster used or any other poster is mentioned as the official poster. All the poster shared by Mohan Lal will not become official posters. I have showed reference that the one in the Official fb page as the profile picture is the official poster. You have not disputed the reference provided rather insisting your point without any reference. Show a reference that says the poster used is the official poster please. DunsonDavis ( talk) 10:01, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
References
Various new articles and ticket sales portals say the movie release date is June 14. It was mentiond as June 15 on the article. [1] [2] [3] [4] DunsonDavis ( talk) 05:53, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
:And regarding this edit - No matter how many sources says the release date as June 14. It's out-of-date as the film's release date has been officially changed to June 15. You are adding erroneous data to the article. --Let There Be Sunshine 16:53, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Please provide a reference. Or lets remove th release date until its confirmed. Lets wait for the release and update later.
:Lol. There is already reference in the Release section with old and postponed (current) release dates. June 15 is officially confirmed, just search the posts at producer Santhosh T. Kuruvilla's Facebook page or of other crew members [11]. What about the question I asked about the cast order ? It's me who is replying and providing references all the time, while you skip questions here and at the page talk. --Let There Be Sunshine 18:02, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
--Let There Be Sunshine 09:40, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
References
About section of the official verified Facebook Page [1] of the movie says the movie stars Mohanlal, Suraj Venjaramood, Nassar, Dileesh Pothan, Nadhiya Moidu, Parvathy Nair. Can we add the starring details to the Info box and split the cast section accordingly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DunsonDavis ( talk • contribs) 08:17, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Website references? when there is lot of news references?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CL8RdmcYwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhXP9GpiR34
[ [12]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephpaulkochi ( talk • contribs) 02:44, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
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Co producer to be added as per citation https://movie.webindia123.com/film/movie/7002/neerali/ Wikiforcorrect ( talk) 19:20, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
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Add producer name and in decription for co producer as shown in citation https://movie.webindia123.com/film/movie/7002/neerali/ Wikiforcorrect ( talk) 19:26, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
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last edit of neerali page. rearranging the cast order is unnecessary. check out the facebook reference [ [13]] Cast order should be Mohanlal, Suraj Venjaramood, Nadhiya Moidu, Parvathy Nair,Nassar, Dileesh Pothan . Thank you Santoshdonut ( talk) 11:36, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
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In summary section please update Starring
Parvatii Nair Jestinas ( talk) 12:59, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
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music =
Stephen Devassy
Ronnie Raphael (score)
Guest composer =
SNP Yesen
The film features songs composed by Stephen Devassy; the score was by Ronnie Raphael; guest composer SNP Yesen did the song " Kadhanam". Mohanlal sings a duet, written by P. T. Bini, with Shreya Ghoshal. [1] [2] Nieraali, the soundtrack album was released on 5 June 2018 by the label Manorama Music. It consists of seven tracks that runs for 25:23 minutes all together. [3] SNP Yesen ( talk) 09:43, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
References
Not done Thank you for sharing the details along with refs. Unfortunately I cannot find the name of SNP Yese in these refs. SO I cannot honour this request. Please find a reliable
WP:RS source mentioning SNP Yesen so that we can verify.--
DBig
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Cast reference is official Facebook page. it should be the same as what official production page says or credited please look in to the matter
[ [14]] they updated the star credits too. hope wikipedia not working with someones personal interest. Sameershan ( talk) 08:38, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
Then how did you rearranged the cast? I am waiting someone other than let there be sunshine. let there be sunshine is clearly indicates a conflict of interest in neerali. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sameershan ( talk • contribs) 10:15, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
L293D ( ☎ • ✎) Yes. my point is update the star cast and cast order according to the official Facebook page of film neerali. https://www.facebook.com/pg/NeeraliMovie/about/?ref=page_internal Thank you Sameershan ( talk) 09:40, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Many sources other than Facebook are there. can find it in the above discussions. some editors will say its vary. so only official source is verified Facebook page from the production. the latest cast change is made with this source. 2405:204:D309:EE9C:E55D:CF48:7BC4:D647 ( talk) 12:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
other valid references trailer and song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CL8RdmcYwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhXP9GpiR34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woXWxwtLDS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dz4rqZz3LA Sameershan ( talk) 13:29, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
ok.comedy is current cast list and cast order has no source at all .can't find a single source for the current cast order in the news article too.and editors declining official production Facebook page announcement, trailers,songs etc. I understood there is no voice for new editors in wikipedia. I am not belongs to here. Sameershan ( talk) 14:49, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
sir --
DBig
Xray
As per request providing media sources
http://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/malayalam/2018/jun/12/mohanlals-neerali-postponed-to-july-12-1826753.html
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/malayalam/nadiya-moidu-shares-her-excitement-about-neerali-on-innathe-cinema/articleshow/64732592.cms
https://www.hindustantimes.com/regional-movies/official-poster-of-mohanlal-s-neerali-out-also-features-nadhiya-parvati-see-pic/story-hi3eeCOj1YAz0CtLzhslGO.html
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/malayalam/movies/news/mohanlal-starrer-neeralis-offical-poster-is-out/articleshow/64175918.cms
http://www.sify.com/movies/neerali-gets-clean-u-release-on-july-13-imagegallery-malayalam-shknJWiffebfb.html
Sameershan ( talk) 16:09, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
So please mention what names you want to add and where. -- DBig Xray 17:16, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
sir --
DBig
Xray Thank you for the response .
not acceptable
Cast Mohanlal as Sunny George Suraj Venjaramoodu as Veerappa Nassar as George Dileesh Pothan as Rajan Nadhiya as Molly Kutty. Parvatii Nair as Naina Saikumar Megha Mathew Bineesh Kodiyeri Santhosh T. Kuruvilla
Acceptable
Cast Mohanlal as Sunny George Nadhiya as Molly Kutty. Parvatii Nair as Naina Suraj Venjaramoodu as Veerappa Nassar as George Dileesh Pothan as Rajan Saikumar Megha Mathew Bineesh Kodiyeri Santhosh T. Kuruvilla
not acceptable
Starring Mohanlal
Acceptable
Starring Mohanlal,Nadhiya,Parvatii Nair,Suraj Venjaramoodu Sameershan ( talk) 01:03, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
DBig
Xray 15:17, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
L293D (
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16:21, 9 July 2018 (UTC) —
LeoFrank
Talk
Answer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sameershan ( talk • contribs) 19:29, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
--
DBig
Xray sir, Thank you
Second request I mean about the star cast in infobox. There is only Mohanlal ! I believe its important to add other star credits. And thank you for your efforts to send the tutorials in my talk page, I will learn it and become a better editor. and try to contribute wikipedia.
I just mentioning my second request below. just opening the request again for the answer. box
Infobox
not acceptable
Starring Mohanlal
Acceptable
Starring Mohanlal,Nadhiya,Parvatii Nair,Suraj Venjaramoodu Sameershan ( talk) 01:42, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Silverscreen,manorama online(onmanorama) website, book my show is accepted in wikipedia ? and other news like Hindustan times and times of India has latest updates of the cast
Sameershan (
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18:54, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Times of IndiaApart from Mohanlal and Parvatii, Nadhiya Moidu and Suraj Venjaramoodu will play pivotal characters in this movie which is expected to be a family thriller. The film is slated to release on June 15.
Indian ExpressNeerali movie cast Mohanlal, Nadhiya, Parvatii Nair. Neerali movie director Ajoy Varma
Interesting star cast. Apart from Mohanlal and Nadiya Moidu, actress Parvatii Nair too plays an important role in the film. Others in supporting roles include Suraj Venjaramoodu, Saikumar, Dileesh Pothan and Nassar.
Nadia Moidu, who made her debut in movies with Mohanlal in Nokketha Doorathu Kannum Nattu, and Parvathy Nair play the female leads. Suraj Venjarammoodu, Nasser and Dileesh Pothen include the cast.
Mohanlal as Sunny George Nadhiya as Mollykutty Parvatii Nair as Naina Suraj Venjaramoodu as Veerappa Dileesh Pothan as Rajan Saikumar Nassar as George
Megha Mathew-> not listed, failed notabilityBineesh Kodiyeri-> failed notability.Santhosh T. Kuruvillanot listed. is Producer. (cameo role maybe?)
--Let There Be Sunshine. Hope you seen the movie . The movie Title credit order is Mohanlal,Nadhya,Parvatii Nair. And you said that verified Facebook page can't use because its not trustable. then how did you update current poster?. In the above discussion some editors clearly mentioned about the official poster with the news article references.
[33] [34] [35] Sameershan ( talk) 14:40, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
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Hai I think there are enough reference for other star casts in Neerali. please check here [ [1]] and [ [2]] Thank you Yourmistake ( talk) 16:53, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
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Parvatii nair and Suraj doing star roles in their previous films.and sources clearly says they are doing main lead roles. [3] I believe they deserve to be in star cast Yourmistake ( talk) 03:15, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Ok then we have to add both Parvaty and Nadhiya as female star cast in the movie... many sources clearly mentioned even before the film starts there will be two female leads.. before they were trying to cast meena and trisha ..one is mohanlals wife(Nadhiya) who has less screen space and Parvatii (more screenspace) I dont know what is the exact rule here in wikipedia while adding star roles.I checked and noticed many other movies all included important cast as star cast.I dont know why experienced editor like you fights for this. Yourmistake ( talk) 16:45, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
I wanted to know wikipedia policy about adding star casts in a film.because there are many upcoming films example Kayamkulam Kochunni (2018 film) take a look at the star cast( mohanlal doing a extended cameo.giving him top star credits.and many others too)I mentioned Kayamkulam kochunni because --Let There Be Sunshine is one of the main editors there. Kammara_Sambhavam, Ranam (2018 film)I can give many examples.why its all differ from Neerali .Please make one rule for every article. Yourmistake ( talk) 18:25, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
List of Malayalam films of 2018#Scheduled please check out the star cast. many of films star cast arranged by considering some of the relevant sources like
neerali has. here there are some some relevant sources clearly mentioned
Parvatii Nair and
Nadhiya doing important roles.example
[
[8]
[9]
[10]
Indian express,times of india,Mathrubhumi some of the leading news papers in India. this is enough reference for giving them star credits
Yourmistake (
talk)
02:43, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
waiting for third opinion from admins...I dont understand your point.when some of resources clearly proves the star cast.how can we not include the star cast. thank you..
Yourmistake (
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21:43, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
I explained it many times. even your point is not clear. removing them from star cast because of benefit of doubt doesn't make this article complete or true. Adding the star cast = not adding the star cast in this case of your explanation my point is clear there are enough reference for parvatii and nadhia... they deserve to be in star cast Yourmistake ( talk) 17:18, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello I dont Know why are you people doing this,,, I m not trying to change anything .. I know you have good circle in wikipedia.. am not here for
a edit war. I dont have any problem if you trying to change n make trouble in
Parvatii_Nair page.if you want to play a fair game stop it.
because of me dont try to make difficulties to some hardworking girl. do you have any personal problem with her? am not changing anything in neerali again.
Yourmistake (
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20:01, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
And other questions.parvatii nair was there from the first day shoot of neerali. there are alot of references regarding it.and nadia casted in the middle
of shoot. when our edit dispute started I made a research on this subject. Am someone who works in malayalam film industry I can easily get the info.
I know that is not relevant here.I even researched on previous film of same production nimir.same problem happened even there.and we know how it ended up.
so from now on am not editing in neerali. am sorry if i did any trouble to you. thank you
Yourmistake (
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20:29, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
3O Response: It does seem that news reports differ between Parvatii Nair and Nadhiya Moidu as the female lead (yes, that is a genuine category; that's why they have Best Leading Actress awards at awards ceremonies), so it might be best not to have either of them in the first sentence of the article or in the infobox. But there is certainly no reason to exclude them and others from the article altogether. I suggest something like, "Nadhiya Moidu plays the main character's wife, Parvatii Nair has a major role, and Suraj Venjaramoodu and Saikumar also appear." All of that is adequately sourced in the refs in the article and on this page.
Scolaire (
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12:05, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
brother , hope you seen the new poster of neerali .. I changed the cast according to the poster credit.. I am not interfered your cast changes before because I understood you changed it seeing the teaser. hope my changes is fine with you. thank you Yourmistake ( talk) 09:29, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Tony bro , why did you change the official poster and credit order .. we all know by trailer,posters all who all starring the movie Yourmistake ( talk) 19:28, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Pls watch the latest trailer and latest poster upload the super star himself. I dont want to fight pls understand and tell a solution
Yourmistake (
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19:44, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
please be careful when you judge and warn someone saying about log out edits... why did you think suraj doing main roles after mohanlal... film is not released by trailers and poster only we can say the cast order,,, I am ok if the cast order is mohanlal,nadiya,parvatii,suraj... pls stop making trouble in parvatii nair page because of the dispute in neerali page . its not good for a good wikipedia editor. if you are not a paid editor Yourmistake ( talk) 20:19, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
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Hi there, Why is the page protected? Thought to add details or infos regarding the movie. So any specific reasons? Will permission be given for editing? Weedo vivek ( talk) 12:47, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, there also seems to be a fight going on between related people one for and against adding Parvatii Nair. All of them seem to be related to the actress. I don't see any reason to fight over adding her name in the infobox or any other sentences or Leave the article as it is. We should not be editing the article for personal matters like soft-corner or vendetta. Also, this article is not in encyclopedia format and needs a lot of modifications and people can contribute and add lots of facts regarding the movie to make it more complete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.5.111.108 ( talk) 09:56, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
1. The Production and Financial information provided in the article doesn't have any reference 2. The poster in the infobox can be updated to the poster which has been termed as the official poster of the movie and was released by Mohanlal [1]
There are lot more improvements that can be made. Encyclopedia format is in reference to the use of English language Szzs.vsn ( talk) 12:53, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
--Let There Be Sunshine That news article that has been referenced previously is a valid proof that it was indeed the official poster of the movie not the one that is currently being displayed. Its validity has been confirmed by Mohanlal Sir himself. So it is the only poster certified as official poster by him. Hence I am changing the poster to the one which has been certified officially. If you have any suggestions let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seetharaghavan ( talk • contribs) 12:39, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Can we proceed with the edits?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.18.182.18 ( talk) 07:05, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
The edits made by me are proper and most of them are Language corrections. The cast details are well established through most of the reference provided in the article itself. Also, I closed lots of missing link through my edits. There doesn't seem to be any legitimate reason for reversing my edits. Please explain the Edits. DunsonDavis ( talk) 11:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I edited the article to improve the readability and organization. I also added references to the facts mentioned in the introduction part. Nobody needs to take your word for copy editing. You have been blocking all reasonable changes in the article without any explanations. Your explanations are that it's unnecessary which is not an explanation. Please give reasons why we should not include the core cast members in the introduction and infobox, which has been well established from multiple references given in the article. Why shouldn't we add a reference to the announcement of the release date? Why we should not mention that the Principal photography was completed in a record timing of 36 days with proper reference [2]. Why we should not add the genre to the movie while the movie director has mentioned it to be Drama Thriller in a news minute interview [3]. Why we should not change the poster that is on display with the only poster that has been mentioned as official poster. [4] You cant argue that all posters are official. The word "official" has been mentioned in only one poster release. DunsonDavis ( talk) 15:25, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
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I have requested for the Third opinion do not revert the changes until we get one. Please check https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Third_opinion&action=edit§ion=3&editintro=Wikipedia%3AThird+opinion%2FInstructions DunsonDavis ( talk) 16:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
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The official Facebook Page of the movie [1] have said another poster to be the official poster. [2] Thats the only poster with the tag of official among the posters released. It is also used by the verified page as the Profile picture irrespection other poster releases. Can we change the poster. DunsonDavis ( talk) 05:41, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Seetharaghavan: I did not said that the poster you are referring is not an official poster. Mohanlal has shared other posters too in his Facebook page. Haven't you seen that ? Of course you haven't, as the only poster you want here is the one promoting Parvatii Nair. And it's a square poster designed to fit as a Facebook profile picture. The official posters do not limit to the posters shared by Mohanlal. The current poster is also an official poster released by the production team and there are numerous other posters. All posters can be seen in the verified Facebook page of Neerali, Mohanlal and other crew members. On an other note: stop creating more and more user accounts, it's useless and can only get you in trouble. --Let There Be Sunshine 14:10, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
You talk like all other Wiki editors are fools and can be easily tricked. We pass through many editors like you here daily. It's time for you to stop the drama. --Let There Be Sunshine 09:40, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Please show reference where the poster used or any other poster is mentioned as the official poster. All the poster shared by Mohan Lal will not become official posters. I have showed reference that the one in the Official fb page as the profile picture is the official poster. You have not disputed the reference provided rather insisting your point without any reference. Show a reference that says the poster used is the official poster please. DunsonDavis ( talk) 10:01, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
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Various new articles and ticket sales portals say the movie release date is June 14. It was mentiond as June 15 on the article. [1] [2] [3] [4] DunsonDavis ( talk) 05:53, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
:And regarding this edit - No matter how many sources says the release date as June 14. It's out-of-date as the film's release date has been officially changed to June 15. You are adding erroneous data to the article. --Let There Be Sunshine 16:53, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Please provide a reference. Or lets remove th release date until its confirmed. Lets wait for the release and update later.
:Lol. There is already reference in the Release section with old and postponed (current) release dates. June 15 is officially confirmed, just search the posts at producer Santhosh T. Kuruvilla's Facebook page or of other crew members [11]. What about the question I asked about the cast order ? It's me who is replying and providing references all the time, while you skip questions here and at the page talk. --Let There Be Sunshine 18:02, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
--Let There Be Sunshine 09:40, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
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About section of the official verified Facebook Page [1] of the movie says the movie stars Mohanlal, Suraj Venjaramood, Nassar, Dileesh Pothan, Nadhiya Moidu, Parvathy Nair. Can we add the starring details to the Info box and split the cast section accordingly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DunsonDavis ( talk • contribs) 08:17, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Website references? when there is lot of news references?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CL8RdmcYwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhXP9GpiR34
[ [12]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephpaulkochi ( talk • contribs) 02:44, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
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Co producer to be added as per citation https://movie.webindia123.com/film/movie/7002/neerali/ Wikiforcorrect ( talk) 19:20, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
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Add producer name and in decription for co producer as shown in citation https://movie.webindia123.com/film/movie/7002/neerali/ Wikiforcorrect ( talk) 19:26, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
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last edit of neerali page. rearranging the cast order is unnecessary. check out the facebook reference [ [13]] Cast order should be Mohanlal, Suraj Venjaramood, Nadhiya Moidu, Parvathy Nair,Nassar, Dileesh Pothan . Thank you Santoshdonut ( talk) 11:36, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
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In summary section please update Starring
Parvatii Nair Jestinas ( talk) 12:59, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
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music =
Stephen Devassy
Ronnie Raphael (score)
Guest composer =
SNP Yesen
The film features songs composed by Stephen Devassy; the score was by Ronnie Raphael; guest composer SNP Yesen did the song " Kadhanam". Mohanlal sings a duet, written by P. T. Bini, with Shreya Ghoshal. [1] [2] Nieraali, the soundtrack album was released on 5 June 2018 by the label Manorama Music. It consists of seven tracks that runs for 25:23 minutes all together. [3] SNP Yesen ( talk) 09:43, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
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Not done Thank you for sharing the details along with refs. Unfortunately I cannot find the name of SNP Yese in these refs. SO I cannot honour this request. Please find a reliable
WP:RS source mentioning SNP Yesen so that we can verify.--
DBig
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Cast reference is official Facebook page. it should be the same as what official production page says or credited please look in to the matter
[ [14]] they updated the star credits too. hope wikipedia not working with someones personal interest. Sameershan ( talk) 08:38, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
Then how did you rearranged the cast? I am waiting someone other than let there be sunshine. let there be sunshine is clearly indicates a conflict of interest in neerali. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sameershan ( talk • contribs) 10:15, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
L293D ( ☎ • ✎) Yes. my point is update the star cast and cast order according to the official Facebook page of film neerali. https://www.facebook.com/pg/NeeraliMovie/about/?ref=page_internal Thank you Sameershan ( talk) 09:40, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Many sources other than Facebook are there. can find it in the above discussions. some editors will say its vary. so only official source is verified Facebook page from the production. the latest cast change is made with this source. 2405:204:D309:EE9C:E55D:CF48:7BC4:D647 ( talk) 12:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
other valid references trailer and song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CL8RdmcYwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhXP9GpiR34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woXWxwtLDS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dz4rqZz3LA Sameershan ( talk) 13:29, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
ok.comedy is current cast list and cast order has no source at all .can't find a single source for the current cast order in the news article too.and editors declining official production Facebook page announcement, trailers,songs etc. I understood there is no voice for new editors in wikipedia. I am not belongs to here. Sameershan ( talk) 14:49, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
sir --
DBig
Xray
As per request providing media sources
http://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/malayalam/2018/jun/12/mohanlals-neerali-postponed-to-july-12-1826753.html
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/malayalam/nadiya-moidu-shares-her-excitement-about-neerali-on-innathe-cinema/articleshow/64732592.cms
https://www.hindustantimes.com/regional-movies/official-poster-of-mohanlal-s-neerali-out-also-features-nadhiya-parvati-see-pic/story-hi3eeCOj1YAz0CtLzhslGO.html
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/malayalam/movies/news/mohanlal-starrer-neeralis-offical-poster-is-out/articleshow/64175918.cms
http://www.sify.com/movies/neerali-gets-clean-u-release-on-july-13-imagegallery-malayalam-shknJWiffebfb.html
Sameershan ( talk) 16:09, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
So please mention what names you want to add and where. -- DBig Xray 17:16, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
sir --
DBig
Xray Thank you for the response .
not acceptable
Cast Mohanlal as Sunny George Suraj Venjaramoodu as Veerappa Nassar as George Dileesh Pothan as Rajan Nadhiya as Molly Kutty. Parvatii Nair as Naina Saikumar Megha Mathew Bineesh Kodiyeri Santhosh T. Kuruvilla
Acceptable
Cast Mohanlal as Sunny George Nadhiya as Molly Kutty. Parvatii Nair as Naina Suraj Venjaramoodu as Veerappa Nassar as George Dileesh Pothan as Rajan Saikumar Megha Mathew Bineesh Kodiyeri Santhosh T. Kuruvilla
not acceptable
Starring Mohanlal
Acceptable
Starring Mohanlal,Nadhiya,Parvatii Nair,Suraj Venjaramoodu Sameershan ( talk) 01:03, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
DBig
Xray 15:17, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
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Answer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sameershan ( talk • contribs) 19:29, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
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DBig
Xray sir, Thank you
Second request I mean about the star cast in infobox. There is only Mohanlal ! I believe its important to add other star credits. And thank you for your efforts to send the tutorials in my talk page, I will learn it and become a better editor. and try to contribute wikipedia.
I just mentioning my second request below. just opening the request again for the answer. box
Infobox
not acceptable
Starring Mohanlal
Acceptable
Starring Mohanlal,Nadhiya,Parvatii Nair,Suraj Venjaramoodu Sameershan ( talk) 01:42, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Silverscreen,manorama online(onmanorama) website, book my show is accepted in wikipedia ? and other news like Hindustan times and times of India has latest updates of the cast
Sameershan (
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18:54, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Times of IndiaApart from Mohanlal and Parvatii, Nadhiya Moidu and Suraj Venjaramoodu will play pivotal characters in this movie which is expected to be a family thriller. The film is slated to release on June 15.
Indian ExpressNeerali movie cast Mohanlal, Nadhiya, Parvatii Nair. Neerali movie director Ajoy Varma
Interesting star cast. Apart from Mohanlal and Nadiya Moidu, actress Parvatii Nair too plays an important role in the film. Others in supporting roles include Suraj Venjaramoodu, Saikumar, Dileesh Pothan and Nassar.
Nadia Moidu, who made her debut in movies with Mohanlal in Nokketha Doorathu Kannum Nattu, and Parvathy Nair play the female leads. Suraj Venjarammoodu, Nasser and Dileesh Pothen include the cast.
Mohanlal as Sunny George Nadhiya as Mollykutty Parvatii Nair as Naina Suraj Venjaramoodu as Veerappa Dileesh Pothan as Rajan Saikumar Nassar as George
Megha Mathew-> not listed, failed notabilityBineesh Kodiyeri-> failed notability.Santhosh T. Kuruvillanot listed. is Producer. (cameo role maybe?)
--Let There Be Sunshine. Hope you seen the movie . The movie Title credit order is Mohanlal,Nadhya,Parvatii Nair. And you said that verified Facebook page can't use because its not trustable. then how did you update current poster?. In the above discussion some editors clearly mentioned about the official poster with the news article references.
[33] [34] [35] Sameershan ( talk) 14:40, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
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I removed this entry because the dispute is between more than two editors (and Let There Be Sunshine, you do understand what your having been reported at ANI is all about, don't you?). Erpert blah, blah, blah... 19:57, 16 July 2018 (UTC) |