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I deleted the "allegedly" from the phrase "allegedly tried to rape her". He did not try to rape her "allegedly". If so, she also killed him "allegedly". That is hypocritical. After all, she also was not alone but with her niece. -- Aleverde
This page needs some serious WP:POV work. I took out the whole section on what you can do, which clearly should never be a part of a wiki article. The article is also missing a lot of info (including her full name). -- Bachrach44 19:21, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Please read through WP:NPOV and attempt to maintain an encyclopedial intent for this article. -- Kickstart70- T- C 20:56, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Many links are all at here, I am not sure what you are disputing? Amnesty international is surely not backed up by Mojahedeen is it?!! Amnesty has confirmed that Etemaad newspaper has published this. -- - K a s h Talk | email 09:41, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
http://www.etemaad.com/aspClinets/news_detail.asp?id=85480 <--- this is the link that sometimes doesn;t work unless when searched for !
محاكمه دختري كه با چاقو پسري مزاحم را كشته است
گروه حوادث: دختر 18 سالهيي كه در دفاع از خود و برادرزادهاش پسري را با ضربات چاقو به قتل رسانده بود، ديروز در شعبه 71 دادگاه كيفري محاكمه شد و با گريه و التماس به قضات گفت كه قصد ارتكاب قتل را نداشته است. اين دختر 18 ساله ديروز از زندان رجايي شهر به دادگاه كيفري منتقل شد و روي صندلي اتهام نشست. در ابتداي جلسه، دلداري نماينده دادستان به شرح ماجراي پرونده پرداخت و براي اين دختر تقاضاي قصاص كرد. وي گفت: در اين پرونده نازنين 18 ساله متهم است كه روز 9 اسفندماه 83 در يك درگيري پسر 23 سالهيي به نام يوسف را به قتل رسانده است. اين دختر روز حادؤه به همراه دختر 16 ساله برادرش به نام سميه از خانه بيرون آمدند و سپس به همراه دو پسر به نام روزبه و حميد با دو موتوسيكلت به گردش و تفريح رفتند. هنگامي كه كنار باغي در كرج نشسته بودند، سه پسر غريبه به سمت آنها آمدند و درگير شدند. در اين درگيري نازنين با چاقويي كه همراهش بود چند ضربه به يكي از پسران مزاحم ميزند و باعث مرگ وي ميشود. بعد از آن نازنين به اتهام قتل عمدي بازداشت ميشود و قتل يوسف )جوان مزاحم( را به گردن ميگيرد.بعد از شرح كيفرخواست توسط نماينده دادستان، قاضي عزيزمحمدي، رييس دادگاه گفت: مادر جوان مقتول در جلسه حاضر نشده اما براي نازنين )متهم( تقاضاي اعدام كرده است.سپس حميد )دوست پسر سميه( كه به عنوان مطلع در دادگاه حضور داشت به قضات گفت: من از چند ماه قبل با سميه )برادرزاده نازنين( دوست بودم. روزبه هم با نازنين دوست بود. روز حادؤه من و روزبه هر دو موتورمان را برداشتيم. نازنين ترك موتور روزبه و سميه ترك موتور من نشست و چند ساعت با هم در كرج گشتيم و بعد كنا ر باغي ايستاديم. در يك لحظه سه پسر جوان به سمت ما حملهور شدند و فحشهاي زشتي دادند. سپس محمد )يكي از پسرهاي مزاحم( سنگي به طرف ما پرتاب كرد و سميه از موتور من پياده شد و به قصد دعوا به سمت آنها رفت. من و روزبه هم ترسيديم و هنگامي كه سوار موتورمان شديم تا فرار كنيم، ديدم يكي از آن پسرهاي مزاحم با بدني خونين بر زمين افتاده است. در همين هنگام نازنين كه روي صندلي اتهام نشسته بود، فرياد زد: حميد، چرا دروغ ميگويي، حقيقت را تعريف كن... رييس دادگاه دستور داد كه نازنين آرام باشد و نظم جلسه دادگاه را حفظ كند. بعد از صحبتهاي حميد، روزبه )دوست پسر نازنين( درخصوص روز حادؤه به قضات گفت: ساعت 9 صبح من و نازنين و سميه و حميد با هم به گردش و تفريح رفتيم. در كنار باغ كه ايستاده بوديم، ناگهان سه پسر مزاحم به ما نزديك شدند و گفتند: اينجا چه كار ميكنيد? سپس به نازنين فحش بدي دادند و او را مسخره كردند. يكي از آن پسرها روسري و مانتوي نازنين را كشيد و نازنين هم يك ضربه چاقو به پسر مزاحم زد و مجروحش كرد كه بعد اين پسر فوت شد. قاضي عزيزمحمدي از روزبه پرسيد: چند وقت بود كه نازنين را ميشناختي? روزبه گفت: 6 ماه بود. قاضي: آيا نازنين از خانهاش فرار كرده بود? روزبه: بله، چون نامادرياش او را اذيت ميكرد. بخاطر همين نازنين از خانه فرار كرده بود و با هم چند روزي در يك ساختمان نيمه كاره بسر ميبرديم. بعد از حرفهاي اين دو پسر، نازنين )متهم به قتل( در جايگاه اتهام قرار گرفت. قاضي عزيزمحمدي، رييس شعبه 71 كيفري به نازنين گفت: اتهام شما قتل عمدي پسر 23 سالهيي به نام يوسف باقري است، آيا اين اتهام را قبول داريد? نازنين گفت: قتل را قبول دارم. اما باور كنيد قصد كشتن او را نداشتم. من در دفاع از خودم و برادرزادهام )سميه( آن پسر را كشتم. روزبه و حميد هم دروغ ميگويند. روز حادؤه من و سميه )برادرزادهام( كه 16 ساله است، با هم براي خريد لباس شب عيد از خانه بيرون آمديم. سميه گفت: بيا با حميد و روزبه بگرديم و بعد آنها ما را به بازار برسانند. من هم قبول كردم. سميه ترك موتور حميد و من ترك موتور روزبه نشستم و با هم به تفريح رفتيم. سه ساعتي در خيابانها گشتيم. بعد روزبه گفت: ميخواهم سيگاري بكشم و كنار باغي در كرج ايستاديم كه سه پسر مزاحم به سمت ما آمدند. به روزبه گفتند اگر دنبال خونه خالي ميگردي در باغ يك مكان خوب است. اين دو دختر را به آنجا بياور تا ما هم با آنها باشيم! سپس يكي ديگر از آنها سنگي به طرف موتور حميد پرت كرد بعد محمود يكي از پسرهاي مزاحم به سمت سميه )برادرزادهام( رفت و ميخواست او را به زور با خود ببرد. من وقتي اين صحنه را ديدم به سمت سميه رفتم تا او را از دست آن مزاحم نجات بدهم. در همين موقع روزبه و حميد سوار موتورشان شدند و فرار كردند. وقتي من و سميه تنها شديم، يوسف )مقتول( كه يكي از پسرهاي مزاحم بود مرا روي زم ين خواباند، مانتوام را پاره كرد و ميخواست به من تعرض كند. من چاقويي از جيبم در آوردم و يك ضربه به دستش زدم. بعد از جايم بلند شدم و دست سميه را گرفتم تا فرار كنيم. اما آنها ول كن ما نبودند. دوباره يوسف به طرفم آمد. در آن خيابان خلوت هيچكس نبود تا كمكمان كند. هرچه فرياد ميزديم كسي به دادمان نميرسيد. من هم چون هيچ قدرتي نداشتم تا خودم و برادرزادهام را از زير دست آنها نجات دهم با همان چاقو يك ضربه ديگر به قلب يوسف زدم. آقاي قاضي باور كنيد من چند بار ميخواستم از آن مهلكه فرار كنم اما آنها ما را گير انداختند. قاضي از نازنين پرسيد: چرا چند روز قبل از حادؤه از خانه فرار كرده بودي? نازنين: آقاي قاضي، باور كنيد روزبه دروغ گفت: من اصلا از خانه فرار نكردم. قاضي گفت: پدرت هنگام بازپرسي گفته 40 روز است كه دخترم نازنين و نوهام سميه از خانه فرار كردهاند. آنها اصلا حرف مرا گوش نميكنند. اصلا اين دختر و نوه من نيستند. حاضرم آنها را بكشيد...! در اين هنگام نازنين فرياد زد: دروغ است. همه اينها را افسر آگاهي از خودش نوشته، پدر من هر هفته به ملاقاتم در زندان ميآيد. قاضي: پس چرا پدر شما امروز در جلسه دادگاه دخترش حاضر نشده?! نازنين با صداي بلند شروع به گريه كرد و فرياد زد: من نميخواستم او را بكشم. من اصلا فسادكار نيستم... آقاي قاضي ميخواهيد مرا چكار كنيد? من يك دختر بچهام. چند بار بگويم براي دفاع از خود و برادرزادهام اين كار را كردم. قاضي: چرا چاقو با خودت حمل ميكردي? نازنين: براي دفاع از خودم. قاضي: مگر قرار است هر دختري براي دفاع از خودش چاقو همراه داشته باشد? و دخترك فقط گريه كرد و جوابي به اين سوال قاضي نداد. قاضي: قبل از درگيري با آن پسرها مورد تجاوز قرار گرفتيد? نازنين: نه، هيچ وقت! قاضي: پس چرا پزشكي قانوني نظر داده كه شما دختر نيستيد? نازنين: دروغ است! قاضي: چرا زمان حادثه راه ديگري براي فرار پيدا نكرديد? نازنين: خيلي جيغ زدم كسي به دادم نرسيد. مجبور شدم. اصلا فكر نميكردم پسره بميره! بعد از حرفهاي نازنين وكيل او به دفاع از موكلش پرداخت و سپس قضات شعبه 71 كيفري )عزيز محمدي، رحيمي، باقري، شريفي، شهرابي فراهاني( به شور نشستند تا درخصوص حكم اين دختر تصميم بگيرند. آيا قضات دادگاه عمل قتل اين دختر كه خود يك قرباني است را «دفاع از خود» تشخيص خواهند داد يا مجازات قصاص دربارهاش تعيين خواهند كرد!
کليه حقوق اين سايت متعلق به روزنامه اعتماد می باشد و هرگونه استفاده از مطالب اين سايت بدون ذکر منبع پيگرد قانونی دارد پست الکترونيک :Info@Etemaad.com
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LiveLIfe
17:13, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed the speculations about wearing a knife for stealing or prostitution. According to the article in Etemaad, she said she wore it to protect herself. Unless there are a source that says she was a criminal, does not such assumptions belong here. Aeron 00:52, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Her full name has been released: Nazanin Mahabad Fatehi. (See link nr 10 in the main article).
Can someone with more experience than me move the article to that name? Aeron 03:27, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
"It should be noted that the coverage of Nazanin's story has been one sided. No source has questioned her story. No source has reported what witnesses said about the encounter."
This is an un-encyclopedic comment. If there is a source to question it, we will include it, if there isn't we are not here to question it or make up a conspiracy theory. Wikipedia is not a soap box. -- - K a s h Talk | email 15:18, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
"Etemaad article link that i had privided does have some of the court testimony of witnesses. also there is now a phone
interview with her mother in persian done by International committee Against Executions. There is a reference to ICAE for
those who wish to hear the interview in persian as well as a reference to peyvast.blog with an article which has portion of
the interview information in english. "
LiveLIfe
04:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
" I also made the following correction to the OPINION that one person had posted about what the boyfriends said as witnesses (Author made up comments about how the girl's were the attckers !). Instead I simply QUOTED the boyfriend's comment from Etemaad article which is referenced, which does not support the claim by whoever made that change. Additionally the author had added the comment that Nazanin was disowned by her family!! According to the interview with the mother , she does sot say such things and as a matter of fact she cries and pleads for her daughter's fate. It is appreciated if people do not use wikipedia for personal opinions and only provide SUPPORTED facts" LiveLIfe 05:03, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
"IP address 69.234.50.65 seem to try to add his/her own point of views without references. S/he uses words such as victim for the alleged rapist and has again inputed nazanin being a runaway despite the mother's comments which I had to add to provide fair balanced view. He insists that being a runaway is important in case of a alleged rape victim and it has to be addressed! It is obvious that s/he is providing a bias and misleading view and based on the history of addition and changes, I recommend a WARNING and other actions. 69.234.50.65 should use other forums to show his/her OPINIONS and views instead of wikipedia. This seem to be a repetitive attempt which is consuming much time of original contributors of this page to revise and correct his/her bias and border line hacking and Vandalism. LiveLIfe 09:52, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I want to protest Kashk and Livelife turning Wikipedia, one of the last bastions of impartial information, into a biased political tool. Kashk has repeatedly deleted undisputed facts indicating that (1) Etemaad reported (not claimed, reported) that at the time of the attack, this girl was a runaway who was disowned by her family. (2) That the victim was an Iranian police officer, or Bassij and (3) That in Iran's legal system the victims' mother can pardon Nazanin, but has refused to. It is clear that Kashk and Kickstart are spinning this story to make the killer seem as sympathetic as possible, while demonizing the Iranian legal system and the dead victim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.50.65 ( talk • contribs)
I am certainly OK with keeping the facts sympathetic to the girl in the article, and it is possible that she was an innocent person who killed the bassij to stop him from raping her. However you have to present both sides of the story. It is also possible that she is a violent and troubled runaway from a poor family, who needlessly killed a boy who was trying to keep vagrants and homeless out of the park, because that was his job as a bassij. It is also important to note that it is not the judge, but the victim's mother, who is demanding the death penalty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.50.65 ( talk • contribs)
That is an absolute lie. Where did the court make a finding that she was being raped? You do not understand the Iranian (or any) legal system, and can not distinguish between an accusation and a finding. If every killer with a self-defense story was let off no one would be in jail for murder, in any country. It is frankly disgusting to see you turn wikipedia into a political forum. Can't you political people leave one place alone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.50.65 ( talk • contribs)
Also, if someone with Iranian legal expertise can write an article on rezayat and dineh it would be appreciated.
If the alleged dead rapist is found to be guilty of rape, of course he is not a VICTIM!!! Please do not turn this to court and pre-deterrmine who is the victim..PLEASE LiveLIfe 22:12, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
He was not found guilty of rape. That was just the runaway knife-wielder's story. Even her boyfriends, who would be on her side, didn't confirm her story. Rape is a very serious matter in Iran and punished by death. The facts seem to show that some police officers tried to get a knife-wielding runaway and her "boyfriends" out of a public park. Then she stabbed one of them to death and is on death row at the insistence of the dead victim's mother. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.50.65 ( talk • contribs)
I didn't mean to make it seem like I know the men were basij. At this point we don't know who they were. The only information we have is from the unknown political group "Friends of Humanity" which says they were basij. As far as the other two citations. On the boyfriend's stories, they're described in the original Etemaad article. Each boyfriend tells a different story, and both stories are different from the girl's story. On "at the insistence of the mother," it's in the radio interview and the Etemaad article. -- 69.234.50.65 01:24, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
I will probably not spend any more time on here, and don't want to start a new argument, but please continue to ensure that biased political groups are not allowed to use Wikipedia to promote their agenda. Again, it is fine to present facts sympathetic to the killer, even to devote the majority of the article to the killer's story, but you must also give time to reported facts which are sympathetic to the dead boy. That is the value of Wikipedia, it provides the whole story, not just one side's version. -- 69.234.50.65 01:24, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=74521094&blogID=124592422&MyToken=0e7fb198-5a38-4b76-800e-f1f8c04cb264 and also this article would address the nonesense about her "character" as a runway girl that the other person brought up: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=74521094&blogID=124592422&MyToken=0e7fb198-5a38-4b76-800e-f1f8c04cb264 anyway they all are references that could have been on this page. LiveLIfe 16:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Work out your differences here. · Ka t efan0 (scribble) 22:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I am disappointed that the article page does not point out any of the criticisms raised in the discussion about the lack of sources. Users who appear with no history on wikipedia and create pages like this are HIGHLY SUSPECT. So far, this story is a single source. Why has no mainstream media picked up on this story at all!?!
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=74521094&blogID=125542994&MyToken=f3fbc5db-6146-49cc-8a87-02355b246847 If there were any resources besides Etemaad article would have been posted. What you see on main page and the sources that I posted is all that there is. LiveLIfe 22:22, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I've now unprotected the article as it's been nine days and the debate seems to have died down. The unprotection was requested at WP:RPP. If the article needs to be protected again, drop me a note. I also have the article watchlisted, so if edit warring flares up again, I'll reprotect immediately. AmiDaniel ( talk) 23:21, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
This article desperately needs updating considering her imminent fate. As a new member of Wikipedia I am simply not familiar enough with wiki syntax and formatting to give it the attention it deserves. I write only in the hope someone with more knowledge and skill may update it. --
I don't like football
00:05, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I found this sentence odd: "Based on the original Etemaad story, one of the boyfriends recall the story as..." Who are the "boyfriends?" They weren't mentioned previously and the rest of the article states that Nazanin was with her cousin. I haven't heard of her having *any* boyfriends, let alone one that was at the scene. Childe Roland of Gilead 21:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
The article and the disambiguationlinks/descriptions are biased against what is currently known about the case. Once very long ago I attempted to change the article to match KNOWN facts rather than politically charged allegations but as long as the regulars here aren't convinced it will be allowed to drift again.
The link in the disambiguation page should clarify that the victim was an alleged rapist, NOT a confirmed rapist.
As for attackers, both Nazanin and her niece's boyfriends tell a story different story of them, neither of which imply that there was any intention to rape. This totally undermines the current article's basis:
((Both of the testimonials were found in the original newspaper article from Iran: http://save.nazanin.googlepages.com/original))
Samieh's boyfriend says: I have been friends with Samieh (Nazanin’s niece) for a few months. Roozbeh was also friends with Nazanin. On the day of the event, both Roozbeh and I had our motorcycles. Nazanin rode with Roozbeh and Samieh rode with me and we rode around Karaj together for a few hours and then stopped at the corner of a park. In an instant, three young men approached us in a threatening manner and said some horrible things to us. Then, Mohammad, one of those men, attacked us with a rock. Samieh got off of my motorcycle and approached the men to fight them. Roozbeh and I were both scared, so we got on our motorcycles to flee, and just as we got on our bikes, I saw one of the men on the ground bleeding.
Throwing a rock does not equal intention to rape. It is senseless violence, but not rape. The testimony also implies that after the stone was thrown, the GIRLS approached the men to fight them as their boyfriends were getting ready to run away.
Nazanin's boyfriend says: At 9:00 o’clock in the morning, me, Nazanin and Samieh and Hamid went out to have fun. We were standing in the corner of the park when, suddenly, three young men approach us in a threatening manner and said: What are you doing here? Then they said some really horrible things to Nazanin and humiliated her. One of the men pulled off Nazanin’s headdress and Monteau (Islamic dress), and that’s when Nazanin stabbed the boy once with a knife and injured him, which ultimately led to his death.
Both stories by two close witnesses show aggressive strangers but not rapists. It's a clear case of an out of proportion response that led to the death of a person. Based on this testimony, in any western court, Nazanin would NOT have been acquitted. In Canada, where I'm posting this from, she'd be charged with manslaughter (equivalent to third degree murder), assault with a deadly weapon and assault causing bodily harm.
Just a couple of points for whoever would be willing to rewrite the article to reflect what is known and documented, rather than based on politically charged sources such as IranFocus.
-- Naked turk 02:03, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
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Tags were added here because the very sorry state of the referencing and the prose detract from the very important topic of the article. Best wishes, bringing it up to quality. Please see extensive bulleted comment above, from me, regarding the high standards required in referencing of BLP articles; note that myspace and blogs generally do not qualify as reliable references. Otherwise, I will give time as I can, where value can be added by a good writer that is not a subject matter expert. Le Prof 71.239.82.39 ( talk) 16:24, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
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Lede citation was made unnecessary by adding the information to the main text, with a verifiable citation. Background citations: Please feel free to re-add these, providing full bibliographic material suited to an English language article (as for the Winnipeg Free Press and Amnesty International Report citations appearing), and along with that traceable description, add a new, active URL. In the case of the Etemaad article, citation of a separate objective academic or journalistic translation is required (the googlepages web page is "Save Nazanin"), before its reintroduction as a citation here. Otherwise, the entries are not suitable material for a Wikipedia article. Categories of problems are indicated in the italic headings.
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References to subject by first name (familiar) changed to last name, and references to minor niece by first name removed. Reasons obvious. Le Prof 71.239.82.39 ( talk) 18:59, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
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I deleted the "allegedly" from the phrase "allegedly tried to rape her". He did not try to rape her "allegedly". If so, she also killed him "allegedly". That is hypocritical. After all, she also was not alone but with her niece. -- Aleverde
This page needs some serious WP:POV work. I took out the whole section on what you can do, which clearly should never be a part of a wiki article. The article is also missing a lot of info (including her full name). -- Bachrach44 19:21, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Please read through WP:NPOV and attempt to maintain an encyclopedial intent for this article. -- Kickstart70- T- C 20:56, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Many links are all at here, I am not sure what you are disputing? Amnesty international is surely not backed up by Mojahedeen is it?!! Amnesty has confirmed that Etemaad newspaper has published this. -- - K a s h Talk | email 09:41, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
http://www.etemaad.com/aspClinets/news_detail.asp?id=85480 <--- this is the link that sometimes doesn;t work unless when searched for !
محاكمه دختري كه با چاقو پسري مزاحم را كشته است
گروه حوادث: دختر 18 سالهيي كه در دفاع از خود و برادرزادهاش پسري را با ضربات چاقو به قتل رسانده بود، ديروز در شعبه 71 دادگاه كيفري محاكمه شد و با گريه و التماس به قضات گفت كه قصد ارتكاب قتل را نداشته است. اين دختر 18 ساله ديروز از زندان رجايي شهر به دادگاه كيفري منتقل شد و روي صندلي اتهام نشست. در ابتداي جلسه، دلداري نماينده دادستان به شرح ماجراي پرونده پرداخت و براي اين دختر تقاضاي قصاص كرد. وي گفت: در اين پرونده نازنين 18 ساله متهم است كه روز 9 اسفندماه 83 در يك درگيري پسر 23 سالهيي به نام يوسف را به قتل رسانده است. اين دختر روز حادؤه به همراه دختر 16 ساله برادرش به نام سميه از خانه بيرون آمدند و سپس به همراه دو پسر به نام روزبه و حميد با دو موتوسيكلت به گردش و تفريح رفتند. هنگامي كه كنار باغي در كرج نشسته بودند، سه پسر غريبه به سمت آنها آمدند و درگير شدند. در اين درگيري نازنين با چاقويي كه همراهش بود چند ضربه به يكي از پسران مزاحم ميزند و باعث مرگ وي ميشود. بعد از آن نازنين به اتهام قتل عمدي بازداشت ميشود و قتل يوسف )جوان مزاحم( را به گردن ميگيرد.بعد از شرح كيفرخواست توسط نماينده دادستان، قاضي عزيزمحمدي، رييس دادگاه گفت: مادر جوان مقتول در جلسه حاضر نشده اما براي نازنين )متهم( تقاضاي اعدام كرده است.سپس حميد )دوست پسر سميه( كه به عنوان مطلع در دادگاه حضور داشت به قضات گفت: من از چند ماه قبل با سميه )برادرزاده نازنين( دوست بودم. روزبه هم با نازنين دوست بود. روز حادؤه من و روزبه هر دو موتورمان را برداشتيم. نازنين ترك موتور روزبه و سميه ترك موتور من نشست و چند ساعت با هم در كرج گشتيم و بعد كنا ر باغي ايستاديم. در يك لحظه سه پسر جوان به سمت ما حملهور شدند و فحشهاي زشتي دادند. سپس محمد )يكي از پسرهاي مزاحم( سنگي به طرف ما پرتاب كرد و سميه از موتور من پياده شد و به قصد دعوا به سمت آنها رفت. من و روزبه هم ترسيديم و هنگامي كه سوار موتورمان شديم تا فرار كنيم، ديدم يكي از آن پسرهاي مزاحم با بدني خونين بر زمين افتاده است. در همين هنگام نازنين كه روي صندلي اتهام نشسته بود، فرياد زد: حميد، چرا دروغ ميگويي، حقيقت را تعريف كن... رييس دادگاه دستور داد كه نازنين آرام باشد و نظم جلسه دادگاه را حفظ كند. بعد از صحبتهاي حميد، روزبه )دوست پسر نازنين( درخصوص روز حادؤه به قضات گفت: ساعت 9 صبح من و نازنين و سميه و حميد با هم به گردش و تفريح رفتيم. در كنار باغ كه ايستاده بوديم، ناگهان سه پسر مزاحم به ما نزديك شدند و گفتند: اينجا چه كار ميكنيد? سپس به نازنين فحش بدي دادند و او را مسخره كردند. يكي از آن پسرها روسري و مانتوي نازنين را كشيد و نازنين هم يك ضربه چاقو به پسر مزاحم زد و مجروحش كرد كه بعد اين پسر فوت شد. قاضي عزيزمحمدي از روزبه پرسيد: چند وقت بود كه نازنين را ميشناختي? روزبه گفت: 6 ماه بود. قاضي: آيا نازنين از خانهاش فرار كرده بود? روزبه: بله، چون نامادرياش او را اذيت ميكرد. بخاطر همين نازنين از خانه فرار كرده بود و با هم چند روزي در يك ساختمان نيمه كاره بسر ميبرديم. بعد از حرفهاي اين دو پسر، نازنين )متهم به قتل( در جايگاه اتهام قرار گرفت. قاضي عزيزمحمدي، رييس شعبه 71 كيفري به نازنين گفت: اتهام شما قتل عمدي پسر 23 سالهيي به نام يوسف باقري است، آيا اين اتهام را قبول داريد? نازنين گفت: قتل را قبول دارم. اما باور كنيد قصد كشتن او را نداشتم. من در دفاع از خودم و برادرزادهام )سميه( آن پسر را كشتم. روزبه و حميد هم دروغ ميگويند. روز حادؤه من و سميه )برادرزادهام( كه 16 ساله است، با هم براي خريد لباس شب عيد از خانه بيرون آمديم. سميه گفت: بيا با حميد و روزبه بگرديم و بعد آنها ما را به بازار برسانند. من هم قبول كردم. سميه ترك موتور حميد و من ترك موتور روزبه نشستم و با هم به تفريح رفتيم. سه ساعتي در خيابانها گشتيم. بعد روزبه گفت: ميخواهم سيگاري بكشم و كنار باغي در كرج ايستاديم كه سه پسر مزاحم به سمت ما آمدند. به روزبه گفتند اگر دنبال خونه خالي ميگردي در باغ يك مكان خوب است. اين دو دختر را به آنجا بياور تا ما هم با آنها باشيم! سپس يكي ديگر از آنها سنگي به طرف موتور حميد پرت كرد بعد محمود يكي از پسرهاي مزاحم به سمت سميه )برادرزادهام( رفت و ميخواست او را به زور با خود ببرد. من وقتي اين صحنه را ديدم به سمت سميه رفتم تا او را از دست آن مزاحم نجات بدهم. در همين موقع روزبه و حميد سوار موتورشان شدند و فرار كردند. وقتي من و سميه تنها شديم، يوسف )مقتول( كه يكي از پسرهاي مزاحم بود مرا روي زم ين خواباند، مانتوام را پاره كرد و ميخواست به من تعرض كند. من چاقويي از جيبم در آوردم و يك ضربه به دستش زدم. بعد از جايم بلند شدم و دست سميه را گرفتم تا فرار كنيم. اما آنها ول كن ما نبودند. دوباره يوسف به طرفم آمد. در آن خيابان خلوت هيچكس نبود تا كمكمان كند. هرچه فرياد ميزديم كسي به دادمان نميرسيد. من هم چون هيچ قدرتي نداشتم تا خودم و برادرزادهام را از زير دست آنها نجات دهم با همان چاقو يك ضربه ديگر به قلب يوسف زدم. آقاي قاضي باور كنيد من چند بار ميخواستم از آن مهلكه فرار كنم اما آنها ما را گير انداختند. قاضي از نازنين پرسيد: چرا چند روز قبل از حادؤه از خانه فرار كرده بودي? نازنين: آقاي قاضي، باور كنيد روزبه دروغ گفت: من اصلا از خانه فرار نكردم. قاضي گفت: پدرت هنگام بازپرسي گفته 40 روز است كه دخترم نازنين و نوهام سميه از خانه فرار كردهاند. آنها اصلا حرف مرا گوش نميكنند. اصلا اين دختر و نوه من نيستند. حاضرم آنها را بكشيد...! در اين هنگام نازنين فرياد زد: دروغ است. همه اينها را افسر آگاهي از خودش نوشته، پدر من هر هفته به ملاقاتم در زندان ميآيد. قاضي: پس چرا پدر شما امروز در جلسه دادگاه دخترش حاضر نشده?! نازنين با صداي بلند شروع به گريه كرد و فرياد زد: من نميخواستم او را بكشم. من اصلا فسادكار نيستم... آقاي قاضي ميخواهيد مرا چكار كنيد? من يك دختر بچهام. چند بار بگويم براي دفاع از خود و برادرزادهام اين كار را كردم. قاضي: چرا چاقو با خودت حمل ميكردي? نازنين: براي دفاع از خودم. قاضي: مگر قرار است هر دختري براي دفاع از خودش چاقو همراه داشته باشد? و دخترك فقط گريه كرد و جوابي به اين سوال قاضي نداد. قاضي: قبل از درگيري با آن پسرها مورد تجاوز قرار گرفتيد? نازنين: نه، هيچ وقت! قاضي: پس چرا پزشكي قانوني نظر داده كه شما دختر نيستيد? نازنين: دروغ است! قاضي: چرا زمان حادثه راه ديگري براي فرار پيدا نكرديد? نازنين: خيلي جيغ زدم كسي به دادم نرسيد. مجبور شدم. اصلا فكر نميكردم پسره بميره! بعد از حرفهاي نازنين وكيل او به دفاع از موكلش پرداخت و سپس قضات شعبه 71 كيفري )عزيز محمدي، رحيمي، باقري، شريفي، شهرابي فراهاني( به شور نشستند تا درخصوص حكم اين دختر تصميم بگيرند. آيا قضات دادگاه عمل قتل اين دختر كه خود يك قرباني است را «دفاع از خود» تشخيص خواهند داد يا مجازات قصاص دربارهاش تعيين خواهند كرد!
کليه حقوق اين سايت متعلق به روزنامه اعتماد می باشد و هرگونه استفاده از مطالب اين سايت بدون ذکر منبع پيگرد قانونی دارد پست الکترونيک :Info@Etemaad.com
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LiveLIfe
17:13, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed the speculations about wearing a knife for stealing or prostitution. According to the article in Etemaad, she said she wore it to protect herself. Unless there are a source that says she was a criminal, does not such assumptions belong here. Aeron 00:52, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Her full name has been released: Nazanin Mahabad Fatehi. (See link nr 10 in the main article).
Can someone with more experience than me move the article to that name? Aeron 03:27, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
"It should be noted that the coverage of Nazanin's story has been one sided. No source has questioned her story. No source has reported what witnesses said about the encounter."
This is an un-encyclopedic comment. If there is a source to question it, we will include it, if there isn't we are not here to question it or make up a conspiracy theory. Wikipedia is not a soap box. -- - K a s h Talk | email 15:18, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
"Etemaad article link that i had privided does have some of the court testimony of witnesses. also there is now a phone
interview with her mother in persian done by International committee Against Executions. There is a reference to ICAE for
those who wish to hear the interview in persian as well as a reference to peyvast.blog with an article which has portion of
the interview information in english. "
LiveLIfe
04:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
" I also made the following correction to the OPINION that one person had posted about what the boyfriends said as witnesses (Author made up comments about how the girl's were the attckers !). Instead I simply QUOTED the boyfriend's comment from Etemaad article which is referenced, which does not support the claim by whoever made that change. Additionally the author had added the comment that Nazanin was disowned by her family!! According to the interview with the mother , she does sot say such things and as a matter of fact she cries and pleads for her daughter's fate. It is appreciated if people do not use wikipedia for personal opinions and only provide SUPPORTED facts" LiveLIfe 05:03, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
"IP address 69.234.50.65 seem to try to add his/her own point of views without references. S/he uses words such as victim for the alleged rapist and has again inputed nazanin being a runaway despite the mother's comments which I had to add to provide fair balanced view. He insists that being a runaway is important in case of a alleged rape victim and it has to be addressed! It is obvious that s/he is providing a bias and misleading view and based on the history of addition and changes, I recommend a WARNING and other actions. 69.234.50.65 should use other forums to show his/her OPINIONS and views instead of wikipedia. This seem to be a repetitive attempt which is consuming much time of original contributors of this page to revise and correct his/her bias and border line hacking and Vandalism. LiveLIfe 09:52, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I want to protest Kashk and Livelife turning Wikipedia, one of the last bastions of impartial information, into a biased political tool. Kashk has repeatedly deleted undisputed facts indicating that (1) Etemaad reported (not claimed, reported) that at the time of the attack, this girl was a runaway who was disowned by her family. (2) That the victim was an Iranian police officer, or Bassij and (3) That in Iran's legal system the victims' mother can pardon Nazanin, but has refused to. It is clear that Kashk and Kickstart are spinning this story to make the killer seem as sympathetic as possible, while demonizing the Iranian legal system and the dead victim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.50.65 ( talk • contribs)
I am certainly OK with keeping the facts sympathetic to the girl in the article, and it is possible that she was an innocent person who killed the bassij to stop him from raping her. However you have to present both sides of the story. It is also possible that she is a violent and troubled runaway from a poor family, who needlessly killed a boy who was trying to keep vagrants and homeless out of the park, because that was his job as a bassij. It is also important to note that it is not the judge, but the victim's mother, who is demanding the death penalty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.50.65 ( talk • contribs)
That is an absolute lie. Where did the court make a finding that she was being raped? You do not understand the Iranian (or any) legal system, and can not distinguish between an accusation and a finding. If every killer with a self-defense story was let off no one would be in jail for murder, in any country. It is frankly disgusting to see you turn wikipedia into a political forum. Can't you political people leave one place alone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.50.65 ( talk • contribs)
Also, if someone with Iranian legal expertise can write an article on rezayat and dineh it would be appreciated.
If the alleged dead rapist is found to be guilty of rape, of course he is not a VICTIM!!! Please do not turn this to court and pre-deterrmine who is the victim..PLEASE LiveLIfe 22:12, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
He was not found guilty of rape. That was just the runaway knife-wielder's story. Even her boyfriends, who would be on her side, didn't confirm her story. Rape is a very serious matter in Iran and punished by death. The facts seem to show that some police officers tried to get a knife-wielding runaway and her "boyfriends" out of a public park. Then she stabbed one of them to death and is on death row at the insistence of the dead victim's mother. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.50.65 ( talk • contribs)
I didn't mean to make it seem like I know the men were basij. At this point we don't know who they were. The only information we have is from the unknown political group "Friends of Humanity" which says they were basij. As far as the other two citations. On the boyfriend's stories, they're described in the original Etemaad article. Each boyfriend tells a different story, and both stories are different from the girl's story. On "at the insistence of the mother," it's in the radio interview and the Etemaad article. -- 69.234.50.65 01:24, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
I will probably not spend any more time on here, and don't want to start a new argument, but please continue to ensure that biased political groups are not allowed to use Wikipedia to promote their agenda. Again, it is fine to present facts sympathetic to the killer, even to devote the majority of the article to the killer's story, but you must also give time to reported facts which are sympathetic to the dead boy. That is the value of Wikipedia, it provides the whole story, not just one side's version. -- 69.234.50.65 01:24, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=74521094&blogID=124592422&MyToken=0e7fb198-5a38-4b76-800e-f1f8c04cb264 and also this article would address the nonesense about her "character" as a runway girl that the other person brought up: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=74521094&blogID=124592422&MyToken=0e7fb198-5a38-4b76-800e-f1f8c04cb264 anyway they all are references that could have been on this page. LiveLIfe 16:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Work out your differences here. · Ka t efan0 (scribble) 22:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I am disappointed that the article page does not point out any of the criticisms raised in the discussion about the lack of sources. Users who appear with no history on wikipedia and create pages like this are HIGHLY SUSPECT. So far, this story is a single source. Why has no mainstream media picked up on this story at all!?!
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=74521094&blogID=125542994&MyToken=f3fbc5db-6146-49cc-8a87-02355b246847 If there were any resources besides Etemaad article would have been posted. What you see on main page and the sources that I posted is all that there is. LiveLIfe 22:22, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I've now unprotected the article as it's been nine days and the debate seems to have died down. The unprotection was requested at WP:RPP. If the article needs to be protected again, drop me a note. I also have the article watchlisted, so if edit warring flares up again, I'll reprotect immediately. AmiDaniel ( talk) 23:21, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
This article desperately needs updating considering her imminent fate. As a new member of Wikipedia I am simply not familiar enough with wiki syntax and formatting to give it the attention it deserves. I write only in the hope someone with more knowledge and skill may update it. --
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I found this sentence odd: "Based on the original Etemaad story, one of the boyfriends recall the story as..." Who are the "boyfriends?" They weren't mentioned previously and the rest of the article states that Nazanin was with her cousin. I haven't heard of her having *any* boyfriends, let alone one that was at the scene. Childe Roland of Gilead 21:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
The article and the disambiguationlinks/descriptions are biased against what is currently known about the case. Once very long ago I attempted to change the article to match KNOWN facts rather than politically charged allegations but as long as the regulars here aren't convinced it will be allowed to drift again.
The link in the disambiguation page should clarify that the victim was an alleged rapist, NOT a confirmed rapist.
As for attackers, both Nazanin and her niece's boyfriends tell a story different story of them, neither of which imply that there was any intention to rape. This totally undermines the current article's basis:
((Both of the testimonials were found in the original newspaper article from Iran: http://save.nazanin.googlepages.com/original))
Samieh's boyfriend says: I have been friends with Samieh (Nazanin’s niece) for a few months. Roozbeh was also friends with Nazanin. On the day of the event, both Roozbeh and I had our motorcycles. Nazanin rode with Roozbeh and Samieh rode with me and we rode around Karaj together for a few hours and then stopped at the corner of a park. In an instant, three young men approached us in a threatening manner and said some horrible things to us. Then, Mohammad, one of those men, attacked us with a rock. Samieh got off of my motorcycle and approached the men to fight them. Roozbeh and I were both scared, so we got on our motorcycles to flee, and just as we got on our bikes, I saw one of the men on the ground bleeding.
Throwing a rock does not equal intention to rape. It is senseless violence, but not rape. The testimony also implies that after the stone was thrown, the GIRLS approached the men to fight them as their boyfriends were getting ready to run away.
Nazanin's boyfriend says: At 9:00 o’clock in the morning, me, Nazanin and Samieh and Hamid went out to have fun. We were standing in the corner of the park when, suddenly, three young men approach us in a threatening manner and said: What are you doing here? Then they said some really horrible things to Nazanin and humiliated her. One of the men pulled off Nazanin’s headdress and Monteau (Islamic dress), and that’s when Nazanin stabbed the boy once with a knife and injured him, which ultimately led to his death.
Both stories by two close witnesses show aggressive strangers but not rapists. It's a clear case of an out of proportion response that led to the death of a person. Based on this testimony, in any western court, Nazanin would NOT have been acquitted. In Canada, where I'm posting this from, she'd be charged with manslaughter (equivalent to third degree murder), assault with a deadly weapon and assault causing bodily harm.
Just a couple of points for whoever would be willing to rewrite the article to reflect what is known and documented, rather than based on politically charged sources such as IranFocus.
-- Naked turk 02:03, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
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Tags were added here because the very sorry state of the referencing and the prose detract from the very important topic of the article. Best wishes, bringing it up to quality. Please see extensive bulleted comment above, from me, regarding the high standards required in referencing of BLP articles; note that myspace and blogs generally do not qualify as reliable references. Otherwise, I will give time as I can, where value can be added by a good writer that is not a subject matter expert. Le Prof 71.239.82.39 ( talk) 16:24, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Please feel free to re-add these, providing full bibliographic material suited to an English language article (as in the case of the appearing External link to the ICI Radio Canada article), and along with this traceable description, a new, active URL. Otherwise, the entries are not suitable material for a Wikipedia article.
Le Prof 71.239.82.39 ( talk) 17:01, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Please only re-add this, with full bibliographic material suited to an English language article (as in the case of the appearing External link to the ICI Radio Canada article), and along with this traceable description, a new, active URL, only if the black-list issue is resolved. The blacklisted site is:
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Le Prof 71.239.82.39 ( talk) 17:01, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Please only re-add these, with explanation of relation to article content. Otherwise, the entries are not suitable material for a Wikipedia article.
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Lede citation was made unnecessary by adding the information to the main text, with a verifiable citation. Background citations: Please feel free to re-add these, providing full bibliographic material suited to an English language article (as for the Winnipeg Free Press and Amnesty International Report citations appearing), and along with that traceable description, add a new, active URL. In the case of the Etemaad article, citation of a separate objective academic or journalistic translation is required (the googlepages web page is "Save Nazanin"), before its reintroduction as a citation here. Otherwise, the entries are not suitable material for a Wikipedia article. Categories of problems are indicated in the italic headings.
Broken and / or incomplete and therefore untraceable citations (leading < removed):
Citation from googlepages, with translation by advocacy organization, which per WP, is too close to article BLP subject (leading < removed):
Le Prof 71.239.82.39 ( talk) 18:35, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
References to subject by first name (familiar) changed to last name, and references to minor niece by first name removed. Reasons obvious. Le Prof 71.239.82.39 ( talk) 18:59, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
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Le Prof 12.49.20.42 ( talk) 23:22, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Please feel free to re-add this, providing full bibliographic material suited to an English language article (as for the Winnipeg Free Press and Amnesty International Report citations appearing), and along with that traceable description, add a new, active URL. Otherwise, the entry is not suitable material for a Wikipedia article. Text being sourced is in non-italics, non-bold, followed by an m-dash, then followed by the broken reference. Categories of problems are indicated in the italic headings.
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Le Prof 12.49.20.42 ( talk) 23:31, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Please feel free to re-add these, providing full bibliographic material suited to an English language article (as for the Winnipeg Free Press and Amnesty International Report citations appearing), and along with that traceable description, add a new, active URL. Otherwise, the entries are not suitable material for a Wikipedia article. Text being sourced is in non-italics, non-bold, followed by an m-dash, then followed by the broken reference. Categories of problems are indicated in the italic headings.
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Le Prof 12.49.20.42 ( talk) 23:41, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
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Le Prof 71.239.82.39 ( talk) 23:59, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Besides the need for earlier contributors to review and improve the forgoing moved citations, there is now a need for someone with knowledge of Wikipedia reference formatting to look at the reference list.
The Amnesty and other references appear multiple times, and so can be re-formatted so the full reference text does not appear repeatedly in the reference list. Le Prof — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.82.39 ( talk) 11:55, 2 May 2014 (UTC)