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I found it a bit remarkable that there are several thousand monolingual Navajo speakers in the US. It makes sense for immigrant groups like Russians or Chinese, but not so much for native US languages (unless there's Spanish involved of course). There is a rather odd contradiction in the source, though. In the table on page 3, 2.2% stated that the speak English "not at all", but the percentage that reported speaking a "language other than English at home" was 0.3%.
Even if the percentage is calculated from the total number of self-reported speakers, it doesn't seem to add up. So where does the figure of 7,600 come from?
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Because the IPA does not use acute accents to represent tonal distinctions in vowels, I request that, starting at the beginning of the paragraph before the "Navajo Orthography" and ending at the following "Sample text" heading, someone please replace this source:
Navajo represents nasalized vowels with an ogonek ( ˛ ), sometimes described as a reverse cedilla; and represents the voiceless alveolar lateral fricative (/ɬ/) with a barred L (capital Ł, lowercase ł). The ogonek and the barred L were imported from Polish, while the use of an acute accent for vowels with a high tone was taken from French. [1]
’ | a | á | ą | ą́ | aa | áá | ąą | ą́ą́ | b | ch | ch’ | d | dl | dz | e | é | ę | ę́ | ee | éé | ęę | ę́ę́ | g | gh | h | hw | i | í | į | į́ | ii |
ʔ | ɑ | ɑ́ | ɑ̃ | ɑ̃́ | ɑː | ɑ́ː | ɑ̃ː | ɑ̃́ː | p | tʃʰ | tʃ’ | t | tˡ | ts | e | é | ẽ | ẽ́ | eː | éː | ẽː | ẽ́ː | k | ɣ | h/x | xʷ | ɪ | ɪ́ | ɪ̃ | ɪ̃́ | ɪː |
íí | įį | į́į́ | j | k | k’ | kw | l | ł | m | n | o | ó | ǫ | ǫ́ | oo | óó | ǫǫ | ǫ́ǫ́ | s | sh | t | t’ | tł | tł’ | ts | ts’ | w | y | z | zh | |
ɪ́ː | ɪ̃ː | ɪ̃́ː | tʃ | kx | k’ | kxʷ | l | ɬ | m | n | o | ó | õ | ṍ | oː | óː | õː | ṍː | s | ʃ | tx | t’ | tɬʰ | tɬ’ | tsʰ | ts’ | w | j | z | ʒ |
==Sample text==
With this source:
Navajo represents nasalized vowels with an ogonek ( ˛ ), sometimes described as a reverse cedilla; and represents the voiceless alveolar lateral fricative (/ɬ/) with a barred L (capital Ł, lowercase ł). The ogonek and the barred L were imported from Polish, while the use of an acute accent for vowels with a high tone was taken from French. [1]
’ | a | á | ą | ą́ | aa | áá | ąą | ą́ą́ | b | ch | ch’ | d | dl | dz | e | é | ę | ę́ | ee | éé | ęę | ę́ę́ | g | gh | h | hw | i | í | į | į́ | ii |
ʔ | ɑ˩ | ɑ˥ | ɑ̃˩ | ɑ̃˥ | ɑ˩ː | ɑ˥ː | ɑ̃˩ː | ɑ̃˥ː | p | tʃʰ | tʃ’ | t | tˡ | ts | e˩ | e˥ | ẽ˩ | ẽ˥ | e˩ː | e˥ː | ẽ˩ː | ẽ˥ː | k | ɣ | h/x | xʷ | ɪ˩ | ɪ˥ | ɪ̃˩ | ɪ̃˥ | ɪ˩ː |
íí | įį | į́į́ | j | k | k’ | kw | l | ł | m | n | o | ó | ǫ | ǫ́ | oo | óó | ǫǫ | ǫ́ǫ́ | s | sh | t | t’ | tł | tł’ | ts | ts’ | w | y | z | zh | |
ɪ˥ː | ɪ̃˩ː | ɪ̃˥ː | tʃ | kx | k’ | kxʷ | l | ɬ | m | n | o˩ | o˥ | õ˩ | õ˥ | o˩ː | o˥ː | õ˩ː | õ˥ː | s | ʃ | tx | t’ | tɬʰ | tɬ’ | tsʰ | ts’ | w | j | z | ʒ |
==Sample text==
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The second paragraph of § Revitalization and current status contains the sentence
What does "first initial of vowel or consonant" mean?
First and initial are synonymous. A word's or syllable's initial phoneme (in speech) or letter (in writing), whether vowel or consonant, is by definition unique: there can be only one. The only sense I can make of this expression is as a copy-and-paste error for "first vowel or consonant" or "initial vowel or consonant". In this context, referring to print rather than speech, "vowel or consonant" is equivalent to "letter". Furthermore, "the pattern of English dictionaries" at this broad level of detail is determined by the spelling of the entire word and is generally called
alphabetical order. I am revising the sentence accordingly.
-- Thnidu ( talk) 17:46, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
I love how elaborate this article is, but it certainly isn't complete. The history section is a bit meagre. It barely tells us what happened before the invention of the current orthography in 1937. Its written history must be longer. It was probably occasionally written in colonial times and in the days of white expansion into the region, and these records probably give a clue about how the language evolved in these days. Also: there's nothing about dialects. Is Navajo so uniform? Steinbach ( talk) 13:04, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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That's an odd way of describing things. If the 'anthropologist' approaches the problem armed with linguistic knowledge, including a knowledge IPA, no such problem arises. However, I suspect that many of the people that this refers to were 'accidental anthropologists' who primarily were, e.g., missionaries, educators, prospectors, recruiters and so on - people who may also have been unprepared for the challenges of romanisation, labouring under the misconception that the English alphabet is how you mark down speech sounds. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:FD08:A0C2:B5CA:3C74 ( talk) 16:01, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
@ Julietdeltalima: The article claims that Navajo "is one of the most widely spoken Native American languages and is most widely spoken north of the Mexico–United States border". This does not make sense. The article nowhere suggets it is spoken south of the border, so it is not "most widely spoken" to the north, but only spoken there. I interpreted this a mistake, believing that the definite article was missing. If that is wrong, then what is the sentence trying to say? It cannot mean that is also "one of" the most widely spoken north of the Mexico–United States border, since that is already implied by the first part of the sentence. According to the table at Indigenous languages of the Americas, it is the most widely spoken indigenous languge north of the Mexico–United States border. Please restore my edit. 174.92.133.129 ( talk) 22:58, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
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I found it a bit remarkable that there are several thousand monolingual Navajo speakers in the US. It makes sense for immigrant groups like Russians or Chinese, but not so much for native US languages (unless there's Spanish involved of course). There is a rather odd contradiction in the source, though. In the table on page 3, 2.2% stated that the speak English "not at all", but the percentage that reported speaking a "language other than English at home" was 0.3%.
Even if the percentage is calculated from the total number of self-reported speakers, it doesn't seem to add up. So where does the figure of 7,600 come from?
Peter Isotalo 03:25, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
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Because the IPA does not use acute accents to represent tonal distinctions in vowels, I request that, starting at the beginning of the paragraph before the "Navajo Orthography" and ending at the following "Sample text" heading, someone please replace this source:
Navajo represents nasalized vowels with an ogonek ( ˛ ), sometimes described as a reverse cedilla; and represents the voiceless alveolar lateral fricative (/ɬ/) with a barred L (capital Ł, lowercase ł). The ogonek and the barred L were imported from Polish, while the use of an acute accent for vowels with a high tone was taken from French. [1]
’ | a | á | ą | ą́ | aa | áá | ąą | ą́ą́ | b | ch | ch’ | d | dl | dz | e | é | ę | ę́ | ee | éé | ęę | ę́ę́ | g | gh | h | hw | i | í | į | į́ | ii |
ʔ | ɑ | ɑ́ | ɑ̃ | ɑ̃́ | ɑː | ɑ́ː | ɑ̃ː | ɑ̃́ː | p | tʃʰ | tʃ’ | t | tˡ | ts | e | é | ẽ | ẽ́ | eː | éː | ẽː | ẽ́ː | k | ɣ | h/x | xʷ | ɪ | ɪ́ | ɪ̃ | ɪ̃́ | ɪː |
íí | įį | į́į́ | j | k | k’ | kw | l | ł | m | n | o | ó | ǫ | ǫ́ | oo | óó | ǫǫ | ǫ́ǫ́ | s | sh | t | t’ | tł | tł’ | ts | ts’ | w | y | z | zh | |
ɪ́ː | ɪ̃ː | ɪ̃́ː | tʃ | kx | k’ | kxʷ | l | ɬ | m | n | o | ó | õ | ṍ | oː | óː | õː | ṍː | s | ʃ | tx | t’ | tɬʰ | tɬ’ | tsʰ | ts’ | w | j | z | ʒ |
==Sample text==
With this source:
Navajo represents nasalized vowels with an ogonek ( ˛ ), sometimes described as a reverse cedilla; and represents the voiceless alveolar lateral fricative (/ɬ/) with a barred L (capital Ł, lowercase ł). The ogonek and the barred L were imported from Polish, while the use of an acute accent for vowels with a high tone was taken from French. [1]
’ | a | á | ą | ą́ | aa | áá | ąą | ą́ą́ | b | ch | ch’ | d | dl | dz | e | é | ę | ę́ | ee | éé | ęę | ę́ę́ | g | gh | h | hw | i | í | į | į́ | ii |
ʔ | ɑ˩ | ɑ˥ | ɑ̃˩ | ɑ̃˥ | ɑ˩ː | ɑ˥ː | ɑ̃˩ː | ɑ̃˥ː | p | tʃʰ | tʃ’ | t | tˡ | ts | e˩ | e˥ | ẽ˩ | ẽ˥ | e˩ː | e˥ː | ẽ˩ː | ẽ˥ː | k | ɣ | h/x | xʷ | ɪ˩ | ɪ˥ | ɪ̃˩ | ɪ̃˥ | ɪ˩ː |
íí | įį | į́į́ | j | k | k’ | kw | l | ł | m | n | o | ó | ǫ | ǫ́ | oo | óó | ǫǫ | ǫ́ǫ́ | s | sh | t | t’ | tł | tł’ | ts | ts’ | w | y | z | zh | |
ɪ˥ː | ɪ̃˩ː | ɪ̃˥ː | tʃ | kx | k’ | kxʷ | l | ɬ | m | n | o˩ | o˥ | õ˩ | õ˥ | o˩ː | o˥ː | õ˩ː | õ˥ː | s | ʃ | tx | t’ | tɬʰ | tɬ’ | tsʰ | ts’ | w | j | z | ʒ |
==Sample text==
Thank you.
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Could use input here: Talk:Nádleehi#Need RS sourcing on dilbaa' etc. Thanks. - CorbieV ☊ ☼ 22:50, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
The second paragraph of § Revitalization and current status contains the sentence
What does "first initial of vowel or consonant" mean?
First and initial are synonymous. A word's or syllable's initial phoneme (in speech) or letter (in writing), whether vowel or consonant, is by definition unique: there can be only one. The only sense I can make of this expression is as a copy-and-paste error for "first vowel or consonant" or "initial vowel or consonant". In this context, referring to print rather than speech, "vowel or consonant" is equivalent to "letter". Furthermore, "the pattern of English dictionaries" at this broad level of detail is determined by the spelling of the entire word and is generally called
alphabetical order. I am revising the sentence accordingly.
-- Thnidu ( talk) 17:46, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
I love how elaborate this article is, but it certainly isn't complete. The history section is a bit meagre. It barely tells us what happened before the invention of the current orthography in 1937. Its written history must be longer. It was probably occasionally written in colonial times and in the days of white expansion into the region, and these records probably give a clue about how the language evolved in these days. Also: there's nothing about dialects. Is Navajo so uniform? Steinbach ( talk) 13:04, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 5 September 2022 and 31 December 2022. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
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— Assignment last updated by Ken1380 ( talk) 22:27, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
That's an odd way of describing things. If the 'anthropologist' approaches the problem armed with linguistic knowledge, including a knowledge IPA, no such problem arises. However, I suspect that many of the people that this refers to were 'accidental anthropologists' who primarily were, e.g., missionaries, educators, prospectors, recruiters and so on - people who may also have been unprepared for the challenges of romanisation, labouring under the misconception that the English alphabet is how you mark down speech sounds. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:FD08:A0C2:B5CA:3C74 ( talk) 16:01, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
@ Julietdeltalima: The article claims that Navajo "is one of the most widely spoken Native American languages and is most widely spoken north of the Mexico–United States border". This does not make sense. The article nowhere suggets it is spoken south of the border, so it is not "most widely spoken" to the north, but only spoken there. I interpreted this a mistake, believing that the definite article was missing. If that is wrong, then what is the sentence trying to say? It cannot mean that is also "one of" the most widely spoken north of the Mexico–United States border, since that is already implied by the first part of the sentence. According to the table at Indigenous languages of the Americas, it is the most widely spoken indigenous languge north of the Mexico–United States border. Please restore my edit. 174.92.133.129 ( talk) 22:58, 1 June 2023 (UTC)