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To whomever put the prod tag on this article, please read all this above discussion first. You see this is a longstanding article with a lot of controversy, but not really a candidate for deletion. To some extent, this article definitely does have POV problems -- and I have been one of the people pointing them out -- but it isn't a fringe theory at the level of WP:FRINGE in the way something like holocaust denial or something. It's offbeat, but not off the deep end. So while I will be the first to agree that the article needs work, I will also be the first to quote Voltaire ("I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it") on the topic of a prod tag. Montanabw (talk) 05:56, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
This is (to some extent) a fringe theory in veterinary medicine. It's therefore necessary to include the case for horseshoes. While not ideal, the new section (borrowed from Horseshoe) at least begins to address the counter-arguement. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 23:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I proposed this article be merged because it is pretty short and could easily be merged into the barefoot horses article, which covers the same basic topic. Better one comprehensive article than two iffy ones, IMHO. Montanabw (talk) 03:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I have reversed the tags so that the discussion link works. Also, this title - natural hoof care - seems the better one as a Googlefight indicates that it is the more common usage. Also, the focus of the topic is the care of domesticated horses. The topic barefoot horses might be confused with wild horses and so the scope of the article is clearer under this title. Colonel Warden ( talk) 09:27, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Follow up: I copied the above discussion to the barefoot horses article also, FYI. Montanabw (talk) 20:42, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Merged the articles. If we need admins to merge history, someone can always ask. Montanabw (talk) 21:42, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm very interested about this article, since it has been my entry door to wiki. I couldn't imagine, at the beginning, what NPOV was; so, I couldn't imagine that to write a good article about so highly controversial topics is terribly difficult. In the meantime, I added contributions here and here to wiki into horses; now, I'm working into source proiects much more than on Pedia. NPOV is really a deep, hard trouble for me.
Nevertheless, while working in source, I found this: s:Horses and roads. It has been a BIG surprise. All what Barefoot movement says nowadays, is far from new; it was already known and tested in 19th Century . Then, is has simply forgotten, so that Horses and roads sounds "new" to the mean horse owner and vet, just as it sounded "new", to 19° century reader. Absolutely it doesn't sounds new to any barefooter, since anything has beer de-discovered, and tested again, and confirmed.
Is seems like NPOV is nuch more a matter dealing with horseshoes... Barefoot people did the real, comparative experience of shod and unshod horses; most shod horses owners and "experts" speack about barefoot horse never did really this comparation. -- Alex_brollo Talk| Contrib 05:47, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
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To whomever put the prod tag on this article, please read all this above discussion first. You see this is a longstanding article with a lot of controversy, but not really a candidate for deletion. To some extent, this article definitely does have POV problems -- and I have been one of the people pointing them out -- but it isn't a fringe theory at the level of WP:FRINGE in the way something like holocaust denial or something. It's offbeat, but not off the deep end. So while I will be the first to agree that the article needs work, I will also be the first to quote Voltaire ("I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it") on the topic of a prod tag. Montanabw (talk) 05:56, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
This is (to some extent) a fringe theory in veterinary medicine. It's therefore necessary to include the case for horseshoes. While not ideal, the new section (borrowed from Horseshoe) at least begins to address the counter-arguement. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 23:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I proposed this article be merged because it is pretty short and could easily be merged into the barefoot horses article, which covers the same basic topic. Better one comprehensive article than two iffy ones, IMHO. Montanabw (talk) 03:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I have reversed the tags so that the discussion link works. Also, this title - natural hoof care - seems the better one as a Googlefight indicates that it is the more common usage. Also, the focus of the topic is the care of domesticated horses. The topic barefoot horses might be confused with wild horses and so the scope of the article is clearer under this title. Colonel Warden ( talk) 09:27, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Follow up: I copied the above discussion to the barefoot horses article also, FYI. Montanabw (talk) 20:42, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Merged the articles. If we need admins to merge history, someone can always ask. Montanabw (talk) 21:42, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm very interested about this article, since it has been my entry door to wiki. I couldn't imagine, at the beginning, what NPOV was; so, I couldn't imagine that to write a good article about so highly controversial topics is terribly difficult. In the meantime, I added contributions here and here to wiki into horses; now, I'm working into source proiects much more than on Pedia. NPOV is really a deep, hard trouble for me.
Nevertheless, while working in source, I found this: s:Horses and roads. It has been a BIG surprise. All what Barefoot movement says nowadays, is far from new; it was already known and tested in 19th Century . Then, is has simply forgotten, so that Horses and roads sounds "new" to the mean horse owner and vet, just as it sounded "new", to 19° century reader. Absolutely it doesn't sounds new to any barefooter, since anything has beer de-discovered, and tested again, and confirmed.
Is seems like NPOV is nuch more a matter dealing with horseshoes... Barefoot people did the real, comparative experience of shod and unshod horses; most shod horses owners and "experts" speack about barefoot horse never did really this comparation. -- Alex_brollo Talk| Contrib 05:47, 22 September 2010 (UTC)