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No one seems to have pointed out that ‘redskin’ is a derisive term and not the same as ‘brave’, ‘chief’ etc. I doubt a team called the Washington ‘Blackskins’ or ‘Yellowskins’ would be considered acceptable. I also don’t see the similarity with the use of the term ‘Fighting Irish’, which is a nationality not a race. Now if you were to use the ‘Celtic’ comparison - hence ‘Celts’ - that would be acceptable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.204.67.171 ( talk) 03:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The Golden State Warriors are no longer represented by a Native American "Warrior" and haven't been since the late 1970s. Throughout the 80s and into the 90s they were represented by a logo featuring the state of California, and since 1995 have been represented by "Thunder" a fictional cloud dwelling superhero who does not even resemble a native american whatsoever. Please remove the Warriors from this article's discussion of current native americna mascots. For more info on Thunder: http://www.nba.com/warriors/mascot/meet_thunder.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.3.118.1 ( talk) 21:24, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
No one every stops too think if canadians are offended by the canucks and canadians hockey teams. we're not, but no one every thinks about it. 24.144.137.244 18:16, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
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A list of major teams, both who have accepted and have turned down requests to change, would be an awesome addition to the article. (I don't have the time right now to do it myself.) WallyCuddeford 06:35, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
there is one in another article about native american names in sports, im not sure if we need it in here though. —Preceding
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I am not a editor on here, so I don't know the rules, but why are the Seahawks not listed as a team using Native imagery? —Preceding
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205.201.242.194 (
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For an article about being politically correct and less offensive I'm surprised the authors aren't up to date. "Native American" is not and never really was an accepted term by the indigenous people of North America as it is confusing and lumps together too many indigenous groups. Although most of the indigenous people prefer to be known first by their tribal name if you have to lump them together they vastly prefer the old name "American Indian" which they are used to. "American Indian" is also the term legally recognized by the US government and the term used by most internal Indian organizations, ex: "The Indian Defense League" who's founder recently died but whom campaigned against Indian names used for sports teams. Please keep this in mind in the future. You could also just use "indigenous people" as this is the term adopted by the UN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.244.9 ( talk) 12:24, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Badagnani 18:47, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
These are good points as well, and at least for the time being it does seem that American Indian and Native American will be used interchangeably. I suppose when you get down to it the intent behind the terms is more important than the terms themselves especially with respect to this article. By the way I am aware that "Indies" is related to "India" and that that term is originally native to India (I think related to local rivers). What I was saying is that it became a synonym for exotic. Thus the term "West Indies" for islands in the western hemisphere where Columbus landed. In any case whatever the term originally meant is less important than how it's perceived and it is still accepted by the people in question. But for the rest of us at this point it has really become more a matter of preference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.244.9 ( talk) 05:00, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I have never met a Native American who prefers American Indian so I am curious where you came up with the idea that American Indian is preferred. Also as a descendent of Native Americans I find it offensive also as Native Americans aren’t from India or the Indies it could be argued offensive to them as well-- 209.181.16.93 ( talk) 16:51, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
The names Charlene Teters (first prominent anti-mascot activist) and Vernon Bellecourt (leader of AIM and prominent anti-mascot protestor) should be mentioned in the article. This is just a start; there are many others who could be mentioned as well. But they are an important part of the history. Badagnani 17:59, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
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This reads like an research paper, not an encyclopedia article. Secret account 20:51, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
The fsu logo is being used in this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use ONLY FOR FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY articles. it will be deleted from this article.
This has nothing to do with the article but rather how FSU has allowed its logos to be used
thank you.-- Nolephin ( talk) 20:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
i agree with the fact that wikipedia is encyclopedic but User Badagnani is on a vendetta against FSU. Siteing i agree with the fact that wikipedia is encyclopedic but User Badagnani is on a vendetta against FSU. His “sources” are un verified websites like blue corn comics. He continuously has attempted to skew a negative POV on every single FSU athletic page and i ask you respect the Florida State name as i respect this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.201.31 ( talk) 23:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
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Find me a citation for anyone, other than a white, arguing for retention of Native American nicknames. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 15:10, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
That is false many people from scandinavia and of scandinavian descent consider vikings to be part of their heritage The article also fails to mention the animosity the removal of american indian mascots creates towards american indians Irishfrisian ( talk) 17:19, 20 February 2013 (UTC) (Copied from my talk page - BB) Read the article in the March 4, 2002 issue of Sports Illustrated. They have a poll in which an overwhelming majority of Native Americans say they don't find the nicknames offensive, and most Native Americans living off reservations like the Tomahawk Chop at Braves games. So while most Native American activists find the names offensive, the rest don't really care, and in fact a lot of them like the usage. Tracer Bullet ( talk) 20:53, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
On the lighter side, I was reading the part about opposition to the mascots, and one of the references reminded me of this old 1950s story that was alleged by its teller to be true - that a foreign diplomat who knew nothing of American sports was convinced there was a civil war raging in America, because he saw a newspaper headline that read, "Cleveland Indians murder Washington Senators." Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 21:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Under the section 'Financial Impact of Change,' there's a few sentences on the Washington Bullets/Wizards and Tennessee Oilers/Titans name changes. Does anyone else feel that these are somewhat irrelevant to the overall topic? Kt21783 ( talk) 15:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
This text is pure opinion, from a single poll of probably only a couple of hundred individuals, whose methodology has not been made clear. Presenting this text as the truth rather than as the writer's opinion, without giving background and specifics of the poll, is inadvisable.
“ | According to polling results published in Sports Illustrated in February 2002, "Although most Native American activists and tribal leaders consider Indian team names and mascots offensive, neither Native Americans in general nor a cross section of U.S. sports fans agree."[5]. According to the article, "There is a near total disconnect between Indian activists and the Native American population on this issue."[5] | ” |
Badagnani ( talk) 00:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
This article features some of the worst bias and lack of objectivity I have seen in Wikipedia. Text is contorted and twisted to show excess POV that should not be tolerated in an encyclopedia. For example, in the section concerning FSU two (protesting-complaining) individuals are given enormous weight and text in the article when at odds within their own Nation/Tribe. Their significance is severely overstated, apparently to make a political point that has been soundly rejected by a vast majority of members of their own tribe/people. At least one Wikipedia editor, Badagnani, shows his own lack of objectivity by restoring - repeatedly - unsound edits to a poorly written text, apparently to push his own POV. This is completely unnecessary and destroys the credibility of the article and Wikipedia in general.
One individual given weight far beyond his value to the matter is David Narcomey, an AIM activist. At least Narcomey has had someone write up his own Wikipedia article so that his POV is explained in terms of his notable activities as evidenced by ink in the print and online media. Fine. This is how significant activists are chronicled in an encyclopedia.
signed/ Bold Wikieditor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.220.18.127 ( talk) 07:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
By the way - aren't sock puppets prohibited on Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.220.18.127 ( talk) 10:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
signed/ Bold Wikieditor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.220.18.127 ( talk) 12:46, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
If you want a good example of how this section on Chief Osceola's controversy should go, check out the Chief Illiniwek article. Justinm1978 ( talk) 13:49, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
70.157.181.174 ( talk) 01:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Agreed that this article has some serious issues regarding neutral POV. Just to illustrate: At time of writing, the "Arguments Opposing the Use of Native American Mascots" section is Section #2. There are two more sections representing the "Anti" side of the equation (really 3, but the Professional Sports section needs to be merged into the preceding section), before finally getting to the "Pro" side of the equation in Section 6. And even then, there are refutations added in to every argument listed when there are no such refutations back in Section 2. Does this sound even remotely fair to anyone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.169.66.190 ( talk) 07:07, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Please undo this edit, which makes no sense, grammatical or otherwise. Badagnani ( talk) 02:09, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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A defeat for political correctness. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
This is an article about the use of images by institutions, not about athletic results. DrBear ( talk) 20:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
In April of 2010, Wisconsin passed a law which set up a system where people could file a complaint with the Department of Education and set up a hearing in order to make a high school change "race-based" mascots, most notably anything which sounds like "Indians." So far, three schools have lost their mascots
Also, Carthage College changed its name from the "Redmen" to the "Red Men" in order to get away from any racial overtones. Dele3344 ( talk) 23:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
is like equating camo paint that a Soldier slaps on before squatting down in underbrush to "white face." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.115.131 ( talk) 06:55, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Race and sports could use a brief summary of this article if someone is willing to lend a hand there. Thanks! - Location ( talk) 23:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be some problems with the footnotes and numbering citations on this page, especially in the section talking about the financial impact of changing team logos, which refers to footnote 9. Footnote 9 cites to an inapplicable NJ legal article.Can anybody straighten this out? Hanksummers ( talk) 02:35, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Previously only on the list of further reading, I have made the resolutions point into an outline for the Arguments Against that I hope will be fleshed out.
However the article as a whole seems to be muddled by particular cases without using them as example of the topic. FigureArtist ( talk) 18:04, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Native American mascot controversy/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
The Golden State Warriors no longer use a Native American "Warrior" as their mascot, instead they use a heavenly "superhero" type warrior named "Thunder" who wields a lightning bolt and lives in the clouds. They should not be included in this discussion any further unless it is to be said they changed their mascot to avoid appearing racist.
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No one seems to have pointed out that ‘redskin’ is a derisive term and not the same as ‘brave’, ‘chief’ etc. I doubt a team called the Washington ‘Blackskins’ or ‘Yellowskins’ would be considered acceptable. I also don’t see the similarity with the use of the term ‘Fighting Irish’, which is a nationality not a race. Now if you were to use the ‘Celtic’ comparison - hence ‘Celts’ - that would be acceptable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.204.67.171 ( talk) 03:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The Golden State Warriors are no longer represented by a Native American "Warrior" and haven't been since the late 1970s. Throughout the 80s and into the 90s they were represented by a logo featuring the state of California, and since 1995 have been represented by "Thunder" a fictional cloud dwelling superhero who does not even resemble a native american whatsoever. Please remove the Warriors from this article's discussion of current native americna mascots. For more info on Thunder: http://www.nba.com/warriors/mascot/meet_thunder.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.3.118.1 ( talk) 21:24, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
No one every stops too think if canadians are offended by the canucks and canadians hockey teams. we're not, but no one every thinks about it. 24.144.137.244 18:16, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot 03:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
A list of major teams, both who have accepted and have turned down requests to change, would be an awesome addition to the article. (I don't have the time right now to do it myself.) WallyCuddeford 06:35, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
there is one in another article about native american names in sports, im not sure if we need it in here though. —Preceding
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75.45.174.216 (
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I am not a editor on here, so I don't know the rules, but why are the Seahawks not listed as a team using Native imagery? —Preceding
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205.201.242.194 (
talk) 21:28, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
For an article about being politically correct and less offensive I'm surprised the authors aren't up to date. "Native American" is not and never really was an accepted term by the indigenous people of North America as it is confusing and lumps together too many indigenous groups. Although most of the indigenous people prefer to be known first by their tribal name if you have to lump them together they vastly prefer the old name "American Indian" which they are used to. "American Indian" is also the term legally recognized by the US government and the term used by most internal Indian organizations, ex: "The Indian Defense League" who's founder recently died but whom campaigned against Indian names used for sports teams. Please keep this in mind in the future. You could also just use "indigenous people" as this is the term adopted by the UN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.244.9 ( talk) 12:24, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Badagnani 18:47, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
These are good points as well, and at least for the time being it does seem that American Indian and Native American will be used interchangeably. I suppose when you get down to it the intent behind the terms is more important than the terms themselves especially with respect to this article. By the way I am aware that "Indies" is related to "India" and that that term is originally native to India (I think related to local rivers). What I was saying is that it became a synonym for exotic. Thus the term "West Indies" for islands in the western hemisphere where Columbus landed. In any case whatever the term originally meant is less important than how it's perceived and it is still accepted by the people in question. But for the rest of us at this point it has really become more a matter of preference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.244.9 ( talk) 05:00, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I have never met a Native American who prefers American Indian so I am curious where you came up with the idea that American Indian is preferred. Also as a descendent of Native Americans I find it offensive also as Native Americans aren’t from India or the Indies it could be argued offensive to them as well-- 209.181.16.93 ( talk) 16:51, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
The names Charlene Teters (first prominent anti-mascot activist) and Vernon Bellecourt (leader of AIM and prominent anti-mascot protestor) should be mentioned in the article. This is just a start; there are many others who could be mentioned as well. But they are an important part of the history. Badagnani 17:59, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 19:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
This reads like an research paper, not an encyclopedia article. Secret account 20:51, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
The fsu logo is being used in this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use ONLY FOR FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY articles. it will be deleted from this article.
This has nothing to do with the article but rather how FSU has allowed its logos to be used
thank you.-- Nolephin ( talk) 20:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
i agree with the fact that wikipedia is encyclopedic but User Badagnani is on a vendetta against FSU. Siteing i agree with the fact that wikipedia is encyclopedic but User Badagnani is on a vendetta against FSU. His “sources” are un verified websites like blue corn comics. He continuously has attempted to skew a negative POV on every single FSU athletic page and i ask you respect the Florida State name as i respect this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.201.31 ( talk) 23:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
(Transferred from User talk:JohnInDC with his permission)
Find me a citation for anyone, other than a white, arguing for retention of Native American nicknames. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 15:10, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
That is false many people from scandinavia and of scandinavian descent consider vikings to be part of their heritage The article also fails to mention the animosity the removal of american indian mascots creates towards american indians Irishfrisian ( talk) 17:19, 20 February 2013 (UTC) (Copied from my talk page - BB) Read the article in the March 4, 2002 issue of Sports Illustrated. They have a poll in which an overwhelming majority of Native Americans say they don't find the nicknames offensive, and most Native Americans living off reservations like the Tomahawk Chop at Braves games. So while most Native American activists find the names offensive, the rest don't really care, and in fact a lot of them like the usage. Tracer Bullet ( talk) 20:53, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
On the lighter side, I was reading the part about opposition to the mascots, and one of the references reminded me of this old 1950s story that was alleged by its teller to be true - that a foreign diplomat who knew nothing of American sports was convinced there was a civil war raging in America, because he saw a newspaper headline that read, "Cleveland Indians murder Washington Senators." Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 21:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Under the section 'Financial Impact of Change,' there's a few sentences on the Washington Bullets/Wizards and Tennessee Oilers/Titans name changes. Does anyone else feel that these are somewhat irrelevant to the overall topic? Kt21783 ( talk) 15:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
This text is pure opinion, from a single poll of probably only a couple of hundred individuals, whose methodology has not been made clear. Presenting this text as the truth rather than as the writer's opinion, without giving background and specifics of the poll, is inadvisable.
“ | According to polling results published in Sports Illustrated in February 2002, "Although most Native American activists and tribal leaders consider Indian team names and mascots offensive, neither Native Americans in general nor a cross section of U.S. sports fans agree."[5]. According to the article, "There is a near total disconnect between Indian activists and the Native American population on this issue."[5] | ” |
Badagnani ( talk) 00:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
This article features some of the worst bias and lack of objectivity I have seen in Wikipedia. Text is contorted and twisted to show excess POV that should not be tolerated in an encyclopedia. For example, in the section concerning FSU two (protesting-complaining) individuals are given enormous weight and text in the article when at odds within their own Nation/Tribe. Their significance is severely overstated, apparently to make a political point that has been soundly rejected by a vast majority of members of their own tribe/people. At least one Wikipedia editor, Badagnani, shows his own lack of objectivity by restoring - repeatedly - unsound edits to a poorly written text, apparently to push his own POV. This is completely unnecessary and destroys the credibility of the article and Wikipedia in general.
One individual given weight far beyond his value to the matter is David Narcomey, an AIM activist. At least Narcomey has had someone write up his own Wikipedia article so that his POV is explained in terms of his notable activities as evidenced by ink in the print and online media. Fine. This is how significant activists are chronicled in an encyclopedia.
signed/ Bold Wikieditor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.220.18.127 ( talk) 07:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
By the way - aren't sock puppets prohibited on Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.220.18.127 ( talk) 10:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
signed/ Bold Wikieditor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.220.18.127 ( talk) 12:46, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
If you want a good example of how this section on Chief Osceola's controversy should go, check out the Chief Illiniwek article. Justinm1978 ( talk) 13:49, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
70.157.181.174 ( talk) 01:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Agreed that this article has some serious issues regarding neutral POV. Just to illustrate: At time of writing, the "Arguments Opposing the Use of Native American Mascots" section is Section #2. There are two more sections representing the "Anti" side of the equation (really 3, but the Professional Sports section needs to be merged into the preceding section), before finally getting to the "Pro" side of the equation in Section 6. And even then, there are refutations added in to every argument listed when there are no such refutations back in Section 2. Does this sound even remotely fair to anyone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.169.66.190 ( talk) 07:07, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Please undo this edit, which makes no sense, grammatical or otherwise. Badagnani ( talk) 02:09, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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A defeat for political correctness. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
This is an article about the use of images by institutions, not about athletic results. DrBear ( talk) 20:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
In April of 2010, Wisconsin passed a law which set up a system where people could file a complaint with the Department of Education and set up a hearing in order to make a high school change "race-based" mascots, most notably anything which sounds like "Indians." So far, three schools have lost their mascots
Also, Carthage College changed its name from the "Redmen" to the "Red Men" in order to get away from any racial overtones. Dele3344 ( talk) 23:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
is like equating camo paint that a Soldier slaps on before squatting down in underbrush to "white face." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.115.131 ( talk) 06:55, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Race and sports could use a brief summary of this article if someone is willing to lend a hand there. Thanks! - Location ( talk) 23:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be some problems with the footnotes and numbering citations on this page, especially in the section talking about the financial impact of changing team logos, which refers to footnote 9. Footnote 9 cites to an inapplicable NJ legal article.Can anybody straighten this out? Hanksummers ( talk) 02:35, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Previously only on the list of further reading, I have made the resolutions point into an outline for the Arguments Against that I hope will be fleshed out.
However the article as a whole seems to be muddled by particular cases without using them as example of the topic. FigureArtist ( talk) 18:04, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Native American mascot controversy/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
The Golden State Warriors no longer use a Native American "Warrior" as their mascot, instead they use a heavenly "superhero" type warrior named "Thunder" who wields a lightning bolt and lives in the clouds. They should not be included in this discussion any further unless it is to be said they changed their mascot to avoid appearing racist.
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