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Some occupations in this list seeem odd in that they do not reflect what the people are known as now - surely Dahlan should be 'founder of ...? SatuSuro 13:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm in the process of compiling an up-to-date and referenced list of Pahlawan Nasional. I have a number of books, but it is difficult to find recent lists. The main http://www.tokohindonesia.com/pemuka/pahlawan/index.shtml reference is more up to date than my printed sources, but I have found another site http://www.kalteng.go.id/INDO/Pahlawan.htm that has more. I also plan to reshuffle the alphabetical order based on how people are commonly referred to (eg Ngurah Rai, I Gusti rather than I Gusti Ngurah Rai and Kartini, Raden Ayu rather than Raden Ayu Kartini) to make it easier to find people in the list. I am aware there is a danger of subjectivity here, so please post any comments or suggestions. Davidelit ( talk) 15:17, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I have made some dramatic changes to this page as follows
My aim was to make the article non-POV by removing people on the list because they "are widely seen as a national hero" or other such claim. This means that even Abdul Haris Nasution had to go, much to my surprise. Davidelit ( talk) 15:08, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Please not in accordance with WP EN policies and practices - usage of honorifics in titles of articles (Sri Paduka etc) is discouraged - it most cases the article itself will have alternative titles - there is no need to add them to the titles here in this list Satu Suro 05:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Tokoh Indonesia is Gramedia sh!t. I have added far better references, including government site. I will also add (f) and (m) for non Indonesians to easily distinguish between often confusing names- and highlight also the commendable role of women in Indonesia's history and struggle (thus dispel anti Muslim diatribe) Starstylers ( talk) 17:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Mengingat
Oevaang Oeray dan
Djeranding Abdurrahman diwacanakan dicalonkan menjadi pahlawan nasional, maka saran sy bung Kris masukkan saja bagian "Yang dicalonkan menjadi pahlawan nasional" di artikel kakak. Kakak bisa? Sebab sy tak pandai bhs. Inggris. --
Akbar
ini dari Kalbar
07:31, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
Based on https://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n82106969/, https://viaf.org/viaf/75201950/#Mongisidi,_Robert_Wolter,_1925-1949, and http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n82106969.html, the correct spelling of the last name is MONGISIDI (without the 'N' after the first 'I'). CakalangSantan ( talk) 22:28, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Will this list include the Ampera Heroes (Pahlawan Ampera)? The Indonesian government never created an official list or whoever should or should not be in the list, though the thirteen individuals who were widely considered to be Ampera Heroes existed in various websites. CaptainHitaDeck ( talk) 08:46, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
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Some occupations in this list seeem odd in that they do not reflect what the people are known as now - surely Dahlan should be 'founder of ...? SatuSuro 13:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm in the process of compiling an up-to-date and referenced list of Pahlawan Nasional. I have a number of books, but it is difficult to find recent lists. The main http://www.tokohindonesia.com/pemuka/pahlawan/index.shtml reference is more up to date than my printed sources, but I have found another site http://www.kalteng.go.id/INDO/Pahlawan.htm that has more. I also plan to reshuffle the alphabetical order based on how people are commonly referred to (eg Ngurah Rai, I Gusti rather than I Gusti Ngurah Rai and Kartini, Raden Ayu rather than Raden Ayu Kartini) to make it easier to find people in the list. I am aware there is a danger of subjectivity here, so please post any comments or suggestions. Davidelit ( talk) 15:17, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I have made some dramatic changes to this page as follows
My aim was to make the article non-POV by removing people on the list because they "are widely seen as a national hero" or other such claim. This means that even Abdul Haris Nasution had to go, much to my surprise. Davidelit ( talk) 15:08, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Please not in accordance with WP EN policies and practices - usage of honorifics in titles of articles (Sri Paduka etc) is discouraged - it most cases the article itself will have alternative titles - there is no need to add them to the titles here in this list Satu Suro 05:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Tokoh Indonesia is Gramedia sh!t. I have added far better references, including government site. I will also add (f) and (m) for non Indonesians to easily distinguish between often confusing names- and highlight also the commendable role of women in Indonesia's history and struggle (thus dispel anti Muslim diatribe) Starstylers ( talk) 17:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Mengingat
Oevaang Oeray dan
Djeranding Abdurrahman diwacanakan dicalonkan menjadi pahlawan nasional, maka saran sy bung Kris masukkan saja bagian "Yang dicalonkan menjadi pahlawan nasional" di artikel kakak. Kakak bisa? Sebab sy tak pandai bhs. Inggris. --
Akbar
ini dari Kalbar
07:31, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
Based on https://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n82106969/, https://viaf.org/viaf/75201950/#Mongisidi,_Robert_Wolter,_1925-1949, and http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n82106969.html, the correct spelling of the last name is MONGISIDI (without the 'N' after the first 'I'). CakalangSantan ( talk) 22:28, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Will this list include the Ampera Heroes (Pahlawan Ampera)? The Indonesian government never created an official list or whoever should or should not be in the list, though the thirteen individuals who were widely considered to be Ampera Heroes existed in various websites. CaptainHitaDeck ( talk) 08:46, 1 March 2022 (UTC)