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Why exactly is Mr. Khalili called a Professor?-- 68.4.3.149 ( talk) 20:17, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
A collector, professor, and it also seems lover of being photographed with Western politicians and personalities, particularly Anglo-American, so maybe celebrity too. That is all fine. But where does the wealth come from? No biography? No life? No background? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.6.71 ( talk) 23:09, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
(Moved from the article as Wikipedia is not a link farm but the articles are possible sources)
Philafrenzy ( talk) 23:58, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
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The Debretts biography in the External links section is a broken link, and it isn't archived on web.archive.org. It looks like the entire publication Debrett's People of Today has been taken offline, so I'm removing the link. Still, that publication exists in book form. If someone can get hold of the book, it would be useful to put bibliographic details into reference 11, which is currently a dead link to this online biography. MartinPoulter ( talk) 13:46, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. |
I'm currently part of a GLAM Partnership that involves the Khalili Collections. Because of my COI, I've only been making minor edits to the article. Now that I have a major edit to suggest, I'm proposing it here.
At the moment Khalili's philanthropy and his honours and awards are included under the heading "Personal life". This is unusual for a Wikipedia biography: honours and awards are normally a top-level section. Personal life is normally the section to mention the subject's family, where they've lived and so on. Nothing in the present "Personal life" section is what would normally be considered personal life. Philanthropy is a very public part of this subject's life — it's a main reason this person is notable — so it would be better in its own section. So I suggest: 1) Recognition be promoted to a level 1 heading, within which Honours & awards is a subsection. 2) The heading Personal life is replaced by Philanthropic work, where the existing Philanthropic work subsection is followed by the text below, and the subheading for Maimonides Interfaith Foundation is removed:
Khalili founded the charitable Maimonides Interfaith Foundation in 1995 to promote "understanding, cooperation and peace between Jews, Christians and Muslims internationally through art, culture and education". [1] [2] In the 1990s, he commissioned a series of five paintings by the artist Ben Johnson called the House of Peace to promote "peace and harmony" between Judaism, Christianity and Islam. [3] The foundation also donated thousands of copies of The Timeline History of Islamic Art and Architecture (Visions of Splendour) written by Khalili himself, to schools in the United Kingdom and Islamic countries. [4]
Interfaith Explorers is a six-week programme for children in the final year of primary school, [5] promoting tolerance by teaching them about Abrahamic religions. [6] Supported by UNESCO, [5] the course is freely offered to schools and supported by a bank of four hundred online videos. [6] It was launched at the Regent's Park Mosque and mentioned in a speech by Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks as an example of a group promoting interfaith understanding. [7]
Faith in the Commonwealth is a global citizenship education project started jointly by the Commonwealth and the Khalili Foundation. [8] [9] It gives Training of Trainers workshops to people from the ages of 15 to 29 from different faith backgrounds, including those of no faith. [10] Over multiple days of training, participants discuss and challenge their assumptions around faith, culture, identity and gender [10] and are supported in developing social action projects within their communities. [11] These projects address topics such as hate speech, girls' education, and indigenous people's rights. [11] The workshops began in December 2017, [12] taking place first in Nairobi, [8] in Trinidad and Tobago, [13] and in Dhaka where it was opened by Biren Sikder, then Bangladesh's State Minister for Youth and Sports. [9]
The project also offers a global citizenship education (GCED) toolkit: a peer-reviewed course that university students can take to complement their studies. [10] This has been developed by three universities in Commonwealth countries, working with the Commonwealth Secretariat. [14] It covers eight global issues in the context of the UN's Sustainable Development Goals. [11] Commonwealth Secretary-General Patricia Scotland promoted the project during a 2020 trip to Malaysia, [15] advocating it as in line with the government's policy of Rahmatan lil Alamin or 'mercy to all creations". [16]
The Global Hope Coalition is a network of three not-for-profit organisations. Nasser Khalili is the chair of Global Hope Europe, while Deborah Lehr chairs Global Hope USA and Li Yongjun chairs Global Hope Asia. Irina Bokova, former Director of UNESCO, is the coalition's honorary president. [17] The coalition was founded in 2016 and gives annual awards to political leaders and "everyday heroes" who combat extremism and intolerance. [18] [19] [20] [21] Among those who have been recognised are Nigerian feminist writer Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, [21] South Sudanese artist and actor Emmanuel Jal, [22] and Canadian technology entrepreneur and philanthropist Jim Estill. [19]
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MartinPoulter ( talk) 14:17, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
MartinPoulter ( talk) 10:51, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Especially since this is a BLP, claims need to be well-sourced, not "His article is long and he is in his seventies, therefore..."← I am, of course, well aware of WP:BLP, and have written BLP's, most recently Hiroyuki Nishimura ( 69.6% as of Diff/965822591). I'm not the paid editor though, nor familiar with the sources, nor do I have any interest in volunteering my time to become familiar with the sources that exist on this subject (other than ones you provide, and any others I might have to find if the ones you provide are dubious!). I also wrote quite plainly
Whether any interesting, independent and reliable criticism of how he earned it falls out is up to the sources, but if it's not there I won't hold that against you., meaning I was willing to trust you despite your COI if you had replied with e.g. I have read almost every reliable source I am aware of about Khalili, and have found no criticism worth mentioning of how he attained his wealth, nor of his character.Regarding your understanding of the COI ER process, I do not, as a general rule, implement part of an edit request. As with Inkian Jason on Talk:Wheely § Draft, my WP:ER process is to compare every change in the draft to the article and ask for changes to the draft until I believe it meets Wikipedia policies on
neutral point of view, verifiability and reliable sourcing,[ WP:ERREQ]: §§ General considerations & Responding to requests after which I implement the entire request. This is to be done per my interpretation of WP:COIRESPONSE No.1.
Again, I don't see why the question about financials is being directed at me in the context of an edit request which isn't about that topic.← So that, when I add five paragraphs of glowing praise on Mr. Khalili's behalf, I am sure that my edit is morally correct vis-à-vis WP:WEIGHT and WP:NPOV.So, those're my thoughts on the issue. But, of course, I don't need to be the reviewer if you think I'm sorely mistaken. I will understand if you re-open your COI ER, and won't be offended. Psiĥedelisto ( talk • contribs) please always ping! 02:29, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
I have created an improved draft of this article at User:MartinPoulter/Nasser_Khalili. This diff summarises the changes I've made. I think this is a clear improvement over what is there at the moment, but of course I'm open to discussing any of the changes individually. Being involved in a GLAM partnership with the Khalili Collections, I'm prevented by a COI from pasting in the whole draft myself. Below I list the problems with the existing article that this new version is designed to fix.
Again, the proposed solution for these problems, and the supporting refs, are in the draft in my userspace and I'm very happy to further discuss changes if that is necessary. Thanks in advance for any help, MartinPoulter ( talk) 16:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
@ Ganesha811: referring to this edit, I see your point about there being an entire article about the collections which we don't want to duplicate, but I think there is scope for discussion about how long of a summary we have. Your edit removed about 1,100 words; about one third of the article's total body text. The collections are the main reason for this person's notability, so I don't follow your point in the edit summary that the text is "not about Khalili the person". Surely documenting the person involves giving most weight to what they are most notable for. Now there's more body text about property development than about the collections, which does not at all reflect the coverage of those aspects in reliable sources. As you've seen in reviewing an article about an individual collection, each of the eight collections has had third-party coverage as well as an extensive official catalogue. Just because a sub-article exists doesn't mean there can't be a lengthy summary in the main article: see Vincent van Gogh for example. MartinPoulter ( talk) 09:16, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
There is a separate article about the charitable foundation led by Khalili, the
Khalili Foundation. This article is badly out of date, so I've created a userspace draft with more content and more sources. See the
edit request on the article's Talk page. Thanks in advance for any help,
MartinPoulter (
talk) 09:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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Why exactly is Mr. Khalili called a Professor?-- 68.4.3.149 ( talk) 20:17, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
A collector, professor, and it also seems lover of being photographed with Western politicians and personalities, particularly Anglo-American, so maybe celebrity too. That is all fine. But where does the wealth come from? No biography? No life? No background? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.6.71 ( talk) 23:09, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
(Moved from the article as Wikipedia is not a link farm but the articles are possible sources)
Philafrenzy ( talk) 23:58, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 12:36, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
The Debretts biography in the External links section is a broken link, and it isn't archived on web.archive.org. It looks like the entire publication Debrett's People of Today has been taken offline, so I'm removing the link. Still, that publication exists in book form. If someone can get hold of the book, it would be useful to put bibliographic details into reference 11, which is currently a dead link to this online biography. MartinPoulter ( talk) 13:46, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. |
I'm currently part of a GLAM Partnership that involves the Khalili Collections. Because of my COI, I've only been making minor edits to the article. Now that I have a major edit to suggest, I'm proposing it here.
At the moment Khalili's philanthropy and his honours and awards are included under the heading "Personal life". This is unusual for a Wikipedia biography: honours and awards are normally a top-level section. Personal life is normally the section to mention the subject's family, where they've lived and so on. Nothing in the present "Personal life" section is what would normally be considered personal life. Philanthropy is a very public part of this subject's life — it's a main reason this person is notable — so it would be better in its own section. So I suggest: 1) Recognition be promoted to a level 1 heading, within which Honours & awards is a subsection. 2) The heading Personal life is replaced by Philanthropic work, where the existing Philanthropic work subsection is followed by the text below, and the subheading for Maimonides Interfaith Foundation is removed:
Khalili founded the charitable Maimonides Interfaith Foundation in 1995 to promote "understanding, cooperation and peace between Jews, Christians and Muslims internationally through art, culture and education". [1] [2] In the 1990s, he commissioned a series of five paintings by the artist Ben Johnson called the House of Peace to promote "peace and harmony" between Judaism, Christianity and Islam. [3] The foundation also donated thousands of copies of The Timeline History of Islamic Art and Architecture (Visions of Splendour) written by Khalili himself, to schools in the United Kingdom and Islamic countries. [4]
Interfaith Explorers is a six-week programme for children in the final year of primary school, [5] promoting tolerance by teaching them about Abrahamic religions. [6] Supported by UNESCO, [5] the course is freely offered to schools and supported by a bank of four hundred online videos. [6] It was launched at the Regent's Park Mosque and mentioned in a speech by Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks as an example of a group promoting interfaith understanding. [7]
Faith in the Commonwealth is a global citizenship education project started jointly by the Commonwealth and the Khalili Foundation. [8] [9] It gives Training of Trainers workshops to people from the ages of 15 to 29 from different faith backgrounds, including those of no faith. [10] Over multiple days of training, participants discuss and challenge their assumptions around faith, culture, identity and gender [10] and are supported in developing social action projects within their communities. [11] These projects address topics such as hate speech, girls' education, and indigenous people's rights. [11] The workshops began in December 2017, [12] taking place first in Nairobi, [8] in Trinidad and Tobago, [13] and in Dhaka where it was opened by Biren Sikder, then Bangladesh's State Minister for Youth and Sports. [9]
The project also offers a global citizenship education (GCED) toolkit: a peer-reviewed course that university students can take to complement their studies. [10] This has been developed by three universities in Commonwealth countries, working with the Commonwealth Secretariat. [14] It covers eight global issues in the context of the UN's Sustainable Development Goals. [11] Commonwealth Secretary-General Patricia Scotland promoted the project during a 2020 trip to Malaysia, [15] advocating it as in line with the government's policy of Rahmatan lil Alamin or 'mercy to all creations". [16]
The Global Hope Coalition is a network of three not-for-profit organisations. Nasser Khalili is the chair of Global Hope Europe, while Deborah Lehr chairs Global Hope USA and Li Yongjun chairs Global Hope Asia. Irina Bokova, former Director of UNESCO, is the coalition's honorary president. [17] The coalition was founded in 2016 and gives annual awards to political leaders and "everyday heroes" who combat extremism and intolerance. [18] [19] [20] [21] Among those who have been recognised are Nigerian feminist writer Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, [21] South Sudanese artist and actor Emmanuel Jal, [22] and Canadian technology entrepreneur and philanthropist Jim Estill. [19]
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MartinPoulter ( talk) 14:17, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
MartinPoulter ( talk) 10:51, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Especially since this is a BLP, claims need to be well-sourced, not "His article is long and he is in his seventies, therefore..."← I am, of course, well aware of WP:BLP, and have written BLP's, most recently Hiroyuki Nishimura ( 69.6% as of Diff/965822591). I'm not the paid editor though, nor familiar with the sources, nor do I have any interest in volunteering my time to become familiar with the sources that exist on this subject (other than ones you provide, and any others I might have to find if the ones you provide are dubious!). I also wrote quite plainly
Whether any interesting, independent and reliable criticism of how he earned it falls out is up to the sources, but if it's not there I won't hold that against you., meaning I was willing to trust you despite your COI if you had replied with e.g. I have read almost every reliable source I am aware of about Khalili, and have found no criticism worth mentioning of how he attained his wealth, nor of his character.Regarding your understanding of the COI ER process, I do not, as a general rule, implement part of an edit request. As with Inkian Jason on Talk:Wheely § Draft, my WP:ER process is to compare every change in the draft to the article and ask for changes to the draft until I believe it meets Wikipedia policies on
neutral point of view, verifiability and reliable sourcing,[ WP:ERREQ]: §§ General considerations & Responding to requests after which I implement the entire request. This is to be done per my interpretation of WP:COIRESPONSE No.1.
Again, I don't see why the question about financials is being directed at me in the context of an edit request which isn't about that topic.← So that, when I add five paragraphs of glowing praise on Mr. Khalili's behalf, I am sure that my edit is morally correct vis-à-vis WP:WEIGHT and WP:NPOV.So, those're my thoughts on the issue. But, of course, I don't need to be the reviewer if you think I'm sorely mistaken. I will understand if you re-open your COI ER, and won't be offended. Psiĥedelisto ( talk • contribs) please always ping! 02:29, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
I have created an improved draft of this article at User:MartinPoulter/Nasser_Khalili. This diff summarises the changes I've made. I think this is a clear improvement over what is there at the moment, but of course I'm open to discussing any of the changes individually. Being involved in a GLAM partnership with the Khalili Collections, I'm prevented by a COI from pasting in the whole draft myself. Below I list the problems with the existing article that this new version is designed to fix.
Again, the proposed solution for these problems, and the supporting refs, are in the draft in my userspace and I'm very happy to further discuss changes if that is necessary. Thanks in advance for any help, MartinPoulter ( talk) 16:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
@ Ganesha811: referring to this edit, I see your point about there being an entire article about the collections which we don't want to duplicate, but I think there is scope for discussion about how long of a summary we have. Your edit removed about 1,100 words; about one third of the article's total body text. The collections are the main reason for this person's notability, so I don't follow your point in the edit summary that the text is "not about Khalili the person". Surely documenting the person involves giving most weight to what they are most notable for. Now there's more body text about property development than about the collections, which does not at all reflect the coverage of those aspects in reliable sources. As you've seen in reviewing an article about an individual collection, each of the eight collections has had third-party coverage as well as an extensive official catalogue. Just because a sub-article exists doesn't mean there can't be a lengthy summary in the main article: see Vincent van Gogh for example. MartinPoulter ( talk) 09:16, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
There is a separate article about the charitable foundation led by Khalili, the
Khalili Foundation. This article is badly out of date, so I've created a userspace draft with more content and more sources. See the
edit request on the article's Talk page. Thanks in advance for any help,
MartinPoulter (
talk) 09:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)