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I really think we need to have another conversation about the family members in the infobox. It’d be good to have another talk about it with more editors involved. The “consensus” to remove valuable information from the infobox for no valid reason is being upheld by the same 2 or 3 editors, and those same few revert any edits that go against their “consensus.” I would give a detailed explanation as to why I think the family info removed should be restored but I’ve already done so in my previous conversation in the talk page, which went nowhere. I’m bringing it up again because I believe most editors would agree to restore the info, but perhaps aren’t aware of this discussion or aren’t passionate enough about it to create the conversation, I’m hoping more editors will get involved to change this ridiculous infobox. Kind regards, Robertus Pius ( Talk • Contribs) 19:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
battle of ligny 16 June 1815 missing on waterloo campaign map. Napoleon was in command. Trampled12 ( talk) 20:51, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
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I have changed the the following sentence in the lead: "Napoleon brought modernizing reforms to France and Western Europe, stimulating the development of nation states."To: Napoleon brought modernizing reforms to France and Western Europe, and the upheavals of the period stimulated the development of nation states." It wasn't the modernising reforms in themselves that stimulated the development of the nation states, it was a much more complicated amalgam of revolutionary ideas, the unintended consequences of his reoganisation of Europe and a result of his enemies using patriotism as a weapon of war against him. The last thing Napoleon wanted was a unified Germany on his border, an independent Italy, and a Battle of the Nations.
Happy to discuss Aemilius Adolphin ( talk) 22:21, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
If this article is a DGA, shouldn’t it go from A-class to B-class? 48JCL ( talk) 18:14, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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A couple of editors have extensively rewritten the lead, adding quite a lot of detail. I think it is generally better written than the previous version, but it tries to cram in too much detail and too many links leading to an almost unreadable sea of blue. I have cut some of the detail but I think it should be condensed much more in order to make it a high level summary of the main points of the article, rather than an attempt to rewrite the entire article in four paragraphs.
Happy to dicuss Aemilius Adolphin ( talk) 06:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
The article previously used a roughly 50-50 mix of {{ sfn}} and {{ sfnp}}. I have standardised the sfns on the latter following personal preference but have no objection changing them all to the former if there's a consensus for that instead – I just think that the style should be the same throughout. There are also one or two plain-text (non-templated) references to convert, which I will do shortly. Best, Wham2001 ( talk) 20:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
There's been a myth that Napoleon's height was somewhere around 5'2, but in reality, he was just short of 5'6. Should we include that? Guythatupdatesrandomly ( talk) 00:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Just stumbled across the detail on the Lapérouse page that Napoleon came close to being offered a place on this expedition, which was lost in 1788, and would've had an immeasurable impact on the course of history if he had been gone with it.
This seems worth noting on his page too! The start of the 'Early career' section skips from his 1785 graduation to 1789 in one sentence, a single sentence detailing this near miss would be a valuable addition. 2601:445:800:13F0:69A4:15C2:A62A:606A ( talk) 06:50, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
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I really think we need to have another conversation about the family members in the infobox. It’d be good to have another talk about it with more editors involved. The “consensus” to remove valuable information from the infobox for no valid reason is being upheld by the same 2 or 3 editors, and those same few revert any edits that go against their “consensus.” I would give a detailed explanation as to why I think the family info removed should be restored but I’ve already done so in my previous conversation in the talk page, which went nowhere. I’m bringing it up again because I believe most editors would agree to restore the info, but perhaps aren’t aware of this discussion or aren’t passionate enough about it to create the conversation, I’m hoping more editors will get involved to change this ridiculous infobox. Kind regards, Robertus Pius ( Talk • Contribs) 19:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
battle of ligny 16 June 1815 missing on waterloo campaign map. Napoleon was in command. Trampled12 ( talk) 20:51, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello all
I have changed the the following sentence in the lead: "Napoleon brought modernizing reforms to France and Western Europe, stimulating the development of nation states."To: Napoleon brought modernizing reforms to France and Western Europe, and the upheavals of the period stimulated the development of nation states." It wasn't the modernising reforms in themselves that stimulated the development of the nation states, it was a much more complicated amalgam of revolutionary ideas, the unintended consequences of his reoganisation of Europe and a result of his enemies using patriotism as a weapon of war against him. The last thing Napoleon wanted was a unified Germany on his border, an independent Italy, and a Battle of the Nations.
Happy to discuss Aemilius Adolphin ( talk) 22:21, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
If this article is a DGA, shouldn’t it go from A-class to B-class? 48JCL ( talk) 18:14, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Hello all
A couple of editors have extensively rewritten the lead, adding quite a lot of detail. I think it is generally better written than the previous version, but it tries to cram in too much detail and too many links leading to an almost unreadable sea of blue. I have cut some of the detail but I think it should be condensed much more in order to make it a high level summary of the main points of the article, rather than an attempt to rewrite the entire article in four paragraphs.
Happy to dicuss Aemilius Adolphin ( talk) 06:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
The article previously used a roughly 50-50 mix of {{ sfn}} and {{ sfnp}}. I have standardised the sfns on the latter following personal preference but have no objection changing them all to the former if there's a consensus for that instead – I just think that the style should be the same throughout. There are also one or two plain-text (non-templated) references to convert, which I will do shortly. Best, Wham2001 ( talk) 20:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
There's been a myth that Napoleon's height was somewhere around 5'2, but in reality, he was just short of 5'6. Should we include that? Guythatupdatesrandomly ( talk) 00:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Just stumbled across the detail on the Lapérouse page that Napoleon came close to being offered a place on this expedition, which was lost in 1788, and would've had an immeasurable impact on the course of history if he had been gone with it.
This seems worth noting on his page too! The start of the 'Early career' section skips from his 1785 graduation to 1789 in one sentence, a single sentence detailing this near miss would be a valuable addition. 2601:445:800:13F0:69A4:15C2:A62A:606A ( talk) 06:50, 6 July 2024 (UTC)