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Was this in some promotional material? It's not mentioned in the first 4(.25) episodes of the season. -- David Bixenspan 19:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
This article needs to be fixed up. It is written in incorrect tense and it largely based of assumptions of her character pre-season. Neeknitsuj 08:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Nadia is a fictional character. There can't be any free image for a fictional character. mirageinred 23:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Marisol Nichols has said that Yassir is a Pakistani American. As far as I know, Pakistanis are not Arabs, but one of the categories say fictional Arabs. mirageinred 00:23, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually, Pakistani are not Arabs, but they can trace their ancestory to the Arabs of the Middle East and therefore, as far as looks go, there deffinately is a resemblance. But, proficiency in Arabic is not common, despite Urdu itself being a daughter-language of Arabic. 195.229.236.213 16:51, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't say Urdu is completely unrelated to Arabic. I did some cleanup regarding her fluency in Arabic mirageinred 17:20, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Pakistanis are by majority of South Asian genetic descent. Most Pakistanis are of Punjabi and Sindhi ethnic heritage, with a large minority of Iranic-speaking groups such as the Pashtuns and the Baloch of western Pakistan. They are genetically unrelated to the Arab world and are part of the world of greater India and, to a smaller extent, the world of greater Iran. Pakistanis use Arabic for religious studies but their national language is Urdu, which is mostly a cross between Hindi and Persian with minimal Arabic and Turkish borrowings. Its still classified as an Indo-Aryan language and derives its base roots from Sanskrit. Other major languages include Punjabi and Sindhi (both Indo-Aryan languages also derived from Sanskrit) and the closely related minority languages of Pashto and Balochi (both Iranian languages closely related to Persian, Dari and Tajik). The character of Nadia Yassir is based on a cultural confusion between Pakistan and the Arab world on the part of the producers. If they made her a Persian or even Pashto speaker, they would be at least closer to the mark, as Pakistanis are influenced by those linguistic heritages.
Merge. The character has appeared in only one season of the show, the page seem to contain a lot of cruft and plot synopsis of the character. The character is also talked about as if she is a real character and the article does not assert her notability to justify the article remaining a separate article.-- Lucy-marie 17:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand you Lucy-Marie. First you say the article should be merged because it's a plot summary. Then you say it should be merged because it's real information. Make your mind up. Neeknitsuj 23:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
comment Both coments are valid the second is a refrwence to the in-universe way a fictional character is being talked asbout.-- Lucy-marie 12:43, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Keep - she played a major part in Season 6. No need to relegate her to minor characters. Chipsnopotatoes 18:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)chipsnopotatoes
Keep, if she does not appear in any season 7 episodes, then merge, but if she later appeares the article can be created again. Also, if the "article reads like a plot summary or talked about like she was a real character", it just means the article needs to be cleaned up, it is NOT a valied reason to nominate for deletion. Rhino131 20:47, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
MergeNeutral It seems unlikely that she will return as the season 7 is taking shape. As I said before, I think we should just wait until the 7th season (given that it will air after the strike) instead of making predictions based on the potential. I will support whatever consensus comes out of this discussion.
миражinred (
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16:15, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep, she was a major character in season 6 and was one of very few characters to ever appear in every episode of their only season. Lan Di ( talk) 16:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep, Dude she was a MAIN CAST MEMBER. She had a significant role in handling CTU for a good part of the season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.77.196 ( talk) 08:21, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I count 4 keeps to 2 merges, therefore I am removing the merge tag.-- Lan Di ( talk) 00:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
This is not a DEMOCRACY.-- Lucy-marie ( talk) 19:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep She was in every episode of Season 6, she was part of the main cast, and she provided a major role during the season. She has the potential to come back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.83.137 ( talk) 17:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment - Every single character that is not dead has the potential to return. Also WP:CRYSTAL says we assess as is and do not speculate over future notability.-- Lucy-marie ( talk) 17:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment - There has been a major new development in regards to her, apparently Marisol Nichols was nominated for an award for her portrayal of Nadia Yassir, I believe that is unquestionably a measurment of notability since only kiefer was likely the other person nominated for his portrayal of Jack Bauer.-- Lan Di ( talk) 05:22, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep- Nadia played a large role in Season 6, she was a member of the main cast. This suggestion of merging every character except jack, is just ridiculous. Keep this article. Steve Crossin ( talk) 05:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Comment - Please do not "vote" and please do not go over old arguments which have been moved on from. The comments are suspiciously similar to otehr users. Please comment constructivly by adding real world notability sources. The above comments do not assert real world notability.-- Lucy-marie ( talk) 16:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Comment What is now overwhelmingly clear is that there are indeed secondary real-world sources to assert this character's notability. It's time to move on and take off the notability tag. миражinred (سَراب) ( speak, my child...) 03:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
This character got a person nominated for an ALMA Award. Unquestionably that is notable. [1] As I don't know how to do the markup, someone else with knowledge can do it for me.-- Lan Di ( talk) 04:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
better source миражinred ( speak, my child...) 05:03, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
On its own as the only independent source, notability is probably not established for the character. This is because the award focuses on the actors portrayal, rather than what the character did. If other independent sources are found along with the nomination notability could easily be established. The award is also ethinicly based towards lation actors, which the actress is but the character is not.-- Lucy-marie ( talk) 21:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
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Was this in some promotional material? It's not mentioned in the first 4(.25) episodes of the season. -- David Bixenspan 19:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
This article needs to be fixed up. It is written in incorrect tense and it largely based of assumptions of her character pre-season. Neeknitsuj 08:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Nadia is a fictional character. There can't be any free image for a fictional character. mirageinred 23:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Marisol Nichols has said that Yassir is a Pakistani American. As far as I know, Pakistanis are not Arabs, but one of the categories say fictional Arabs. mirageinred 00:23, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually, Pakistani are not Arabs, but they can trace their ancestory to the Arabs of the Middle East and therefore, as far as looks go, there deffinately is a resemblance. But, proficiency in Arabic is not common, despite Urdu itself being a daughter-language of Arabic. 195.229.236.213 16:51, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't say Urdu is completely unrelated to Arabic. I did some cleanup regarding her fluency in Arabic mirageinred 17:20, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Pakistanis are by majority of South Asian genetic descent. Most Pakistanis are of Punjabi and Sindhi ethnic heritage, with a large minority of Iranic-speaking groups such as the Pashtuns and the Baloch of western Pakistan. They are genetically unrelated to the Arab world and are part of the world of greater India and, to a smaller extent, the world of greater Iran. Pakistanis use Arabic for religious studies but their national language is Urdu, which is mostly a cross between Hindi and Persian with minimal Arabic and Turkish borrowings. Its still classified as an Indo-Aryan language and derives its base roots from Sanskrit. Other major languages include Punjabi and Sindhi (both Indo-Aryan languages also derived from Sanskrit) and the closely related minority languages of Pashto and Balochi (both Iranian languages closely related to Persian, Dari and Tajik). The character of Nadia Yassir is based on a cultural confusion between Pakistan and the Arab world on the part of the producers. If they made her a Persian or even Pashto speaker, they would be at least closer to the mark, as Pakistanis are influenced by those linguistic heritages.
Merge. The character has appeared in only one season of the show, the page seem to contain a lot of cruft and plot synopsis of the character. The character is also talked about as if she is a real character and the article does not assert her notability to justify the article remaining a separate article.-- Lucy-marie 17:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand you Lucy-Marie. First you say the article should be merged because it's a plot summary. Then you say it should be merged because it's real information. Make your mind up. Neeknitsuj 23:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
comment Both coments are valid the second is a refrwence to the in-universe way a fictional character is being talked asbout.-- Lucy-marie 12:43, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Keep - she played a major part in Season 6. No need to relegate her to minor characters. Chipsnopotatoes 18:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)chipsnopotatoes
Keep, if she does not appear in any season 7 episodes, then merge, but if she later appeares the article can be created again. Also, if the "article reads like a plot summary or talked about like she was a real character", it just means the article needs to be cleaned up, it is NOT a valied reason to nominate for deletion. Rhino131 20:47, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
MergeNeutral It seems unlikely that she will return as the season 7 is taking shape. As I said before, I think we should just wait until the 7th season (given that it will air after the strike) instead of making predictions based on the potential. I will support whatever consensus comes out of this discussion.
миражinred (
speak, my child...)
16:15, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep, she was a major character in season 6 and was one of very few characters to ever appear in every episode of their only season. Lan Di ( talk) 16:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep, Dude she was a MAIN CAST MEMBER. She had a significant role in handling CTU for a good part of the season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.77.196 ( talk) 08:21, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I count 4 keeps to 2 merges, therefore I am removing the merge tag.-- Lan Di ( talk) 00:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
This is not a DEMOCRACY.-- Lucy-marie ( talk) 19:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep She was in every episode of Season 6, she was part of the main cast, and she provided a major role during the season. She has the potential to come back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.83.137 ( talk) 17:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment - Every single character that is not dead has the potential to return. Also WP:CRYSTAL says we assess as is and do not speculate over future notability.-- Lucy-marie ( talk) 17:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Comment - There has been a major new development in regards to her, apparently Marisol Nichols was nominated for an award for her portrayal of Nadia Yassir, I believe that is unquestionably a measurment of notability since only kiefer was likely the other person nominated for his portrayal of Jack Bauer.-- Lan Di ( talk) 05:22, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Keep- Nadia played a large role in Season 6, she was a member of the main cast. This suggestion of merging every character except jack, is just ridiculous. Keep this article. Steve Crossin ( talk) 05:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Comment - Please do not "vote" and please do not go over old arguments which have been moved on from. The comments are suspiciously similar to otehr users. Please comment constructivly by adding real world notability sources. The above comments do not assert real world notability.-- Lucy-marie ( talk) 16:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Comment What is now overwhelmingly clear is that there are indeed secondary real-world sources to assert this character's notability. It's time to move on and take off the notability tag. миражinred (سَراب) ( speak, my child...) 03:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
This character got a person nominated for an ALMA Award. Unquestionably that is notable. [1] As I don't know how to do the markup, someone else with knowledge can do it for me.-- Lan Di ( talk) 04:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
better source миражinred ( speak, my child...) 05:03, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
On its own as the only independent source, notability is probably not established for the character. This is because the award focuses on the actors portrayal, rather than what the character did. If other independent sources are found along with the nomination notability could easily be established. The award is also ethinicly based towards lation actors, which the actress is but the character is not.-- Lucy-marie ( talk) 21:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
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