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Since the mythology is pretty much explained in detail in many separate X-Files related articles, I see this article as a way of tying it all together through links. I think the information should be kept rather general here, telling the overall story but not getting too bogged down in detail. Equazcion ( talk) 19:42, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I added info on why the vaccine wasn't used in the end, but I don't remember it too well. Anyone who remembers the story better than me should feel free to check and edit the details, at the end of "Colonization effort". Also I'd like to add in Mulder's use of the vaccine in the movie to save Scully and bring down the alien breeding operation, but I don't remember how he got it. Anyone? Equazcion ( talk) 01:31, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Things are being completely mixed up with this statement concerning Skinner's involvement in Scully's cure:
"Mulder, convinced that the cancer in these women was a direct result of the abductions, attempted unsuccessfully to obtain a cure from the Syndicate. His superior at the FBI, Walter Skinner, who had formed a close relationship with the agents, was able to obtain the cure by making a deal with the Cigarette Smoking Man behind Mulder's back. The cure that the Smoking Man turned over was a microchip similar to that which Scully had removed from her neck. She decided to try re-implanting the chip in its prior location, and the cancer subsequently went into remission."
Here's how the events went down:
I'm gonna revert the text to how it was before. Quiddity99 ( talk) 22:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC)Quiddity99
I'm not sure that the Millennium and Lone Gunman series should be considered part of the X-Files mythology -- especially Millenium. The mythology of the X-Files should be limited to The X-Files series, in my opinion. Millennium had its own storyline. In my experience when people refer to the X-Files mythology they're usually referring to the story within that one series alone. Equazcion ( talk) 20:48, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
At the request of TIAYN I have started an overall summary of the show's mythology, chronologically as it was presented in the series. I have also started a section discussing the behind the scenes development of the mythology. Let me know what your thoughts are. I'll stop where I am now until I see how the others thing about approaching it in this manner. Quiddity99 ( talk) 01:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Quiddity99
I haven't paid much attention to this article in about a month, which seems to be about when it was changed significantly, ie. the non-chronological description of plot elements removed. I might put it back in, because I think it serves the article better, though I wouldn't remove what's currently here; at least not until I could get a sense of what consensus is -- which is how big decisions are supposed to be handled.
I see the "new x-files" heading is still there, despite the discussion above. There's obviously a problem with that.
The "list of mythology episodes" article that seems to be coming could be a problem, as the only definitive listing comes from the Mythology DVD set. All other listings, even those in wider use than the mythology DVD list, are basically original research. Every effort to list the mythology episodes in the original X-Files article became a magnet for original research, ie. people who held their own opinions about which episodes were considered mythology. This might become a similar problem.
It would really be nice if this talk page were used in some manner befitting an article that has changed as much as this one has in the last month. Descriptive edit summaries would also be good. I appreciate TIAYN's efforts, and his work looks nice; However, there's a serious lack of effort towards collaboration here -- which is almost as important -- and way too much singular thinking. I know there are only 3 or 4 people including myself who've worked on this article, but we still all deserve to be in on it. Equazcion ( talk) 13:03, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
I wasn't complaining about Quiddity. TIAYN, see WP:EDITSUMMARY.
There seems to be somewhat of a language barrier here. To reiterate, my main concern is that you, TIAYN, have not discussed major changes here, before making them. Equazcion ( talk) 16:29, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
I took 'disparate' off the description of the character's storylines, since I do not believe the storylines are disparate, but rather it is each character's individual approach to the subject matter of their investigations which is disparate. Fox's list of possible culprits is much wider than Scully's. It's the way they look at the cases that is different. 'Disparate investigative approaches', or something like that-- Neptunerover ( talk) 23:48, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
It's insane that the whole article misuses the term mythology over and over. Made up fictional plots are not mythology. At best they may be a mythos, but honestly even that is stretching things. It's just a story arc. The article needs to be retitled and rewritten. DreamGuy ( talk) 01:55, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
The series have continued in comic book formed published by IDW, the executive producer is still Chris Carter and it's considered canonical, information about the developments of the mythology in the comic books should be included — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.245.202.237 ( talk) 23:33, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Now that there is an actual TV season 10, this article needs to better differentiate it from the comic series that came after the season 9 finale that was also called "Season 10". I think it's just a matter of a minor structure change and maybe one explanatory sentence. I'm willing to take a stab at it, but I wanted to know if anyone had any strong feelings or suggestions I should keep in mind. Transitive Sam ( talk) 05:56, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Can @ Trust Is All You Need:, @ Jonlighthall:, @ Boshaus: et al please quit the edit warring over this? There's no harm in having an episode list here, but the article List of The X-Files episodes, which is linked from the "see also" section here, marks out all the mythology episodes already anyway. So try discussing the damn thing instead of edit warring and throwing out false accusations of vandalism. GRAPPLE X 16:55, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
I don't see what the issue with having a list of the mythology episodes is. The most applicable section in the wiki guidelines to me would be /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Embedded_lists#Lists_of_works_and_timelines , as this seems most similar to a list of works applicable to the mythology episodes. This list does belong in this article as it is not best presented as prose. There have been many people that have been adding the list back versus one user, @ Trust Is All You Need:, who keeps removing it. He is tagging it as vandalism when it clearly does not meet the definition. Boshaus ( talk) 19:13, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Just went through the list of episodes elsewhere and adding the ones that are on here and missing from those lists where others have removed them. I'm inclined to err on the side of keeping any debated mythology episodes marked as mythology episodes, so that those who wish to watch the series' mythology without anything else do not miss anything. I see no reason why there is a benefit to not marking an episode if it might be less mythological than others. 82.45.3.234 ( talk) 17:21, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I (@ Raz0r611:) just registered an account, so that I can say that having the episodes here is extremely helpful. I'm binge watching now and this list helps me skip the monster-of-the week episodes (I hope I don't break any rules by writing here - my first comment). I can find the old page in history (so I'll be okay anyway), but I think the list of episodes is very helpful.
Removed "Jump the Shark" from the mythology list. In its dedicated article Jump_the_Shark_(The_X-Files) it is correctly listed as "monster of the week". And I can confirm that it is unrelated to the mythology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.226.38.140 ( talk) 20:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
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Since the mythology is pretty much explained in detail in many separate X-Files related articles, I see this article as a way of tying it all together through links. I think the information should be kept rather general here, telling the overall story but not getting too bogged down in detail. Equazcion ( talk) 19:42, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I added info on why the vaccine wasn't used in the end, but I don't remember it too well. Anyone who remembers the story better than me should feel free to check and edit the details, at the end of "Colonization effort". Also I'd like to add in Mulder's use of the vaccine in the movie to save Scully and bring down the alien breeding operation, but I don't remember how he got it. Anyone? Equazcion ( talk) 01:31, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Things are being completely mixed up with this statement concerning Skinner's involvement in Scully's cure:
"Mulder, convinced that the cancer in these women was a direct result of the abductions, attempted unsuccessfully to obtain a cure from the Syndicate. His superior at the FBI, Walter Skinner, who had formed a close relationship with the agents, was able to obtain the cure by making a deal with the Cigarette Smoking Man behind Mulder's back. The cure that the Smoking Man turned over was a microchip similar to that which Scully had removed from her neck. She decided to try re-implanting the chip in its prior location, and the cancer subsequently went into remission."
Here's how the events went down:
I'm gonna revert the text to how it was before. Quiddity99 ( talk) 22:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC)Quiddity99
I'm not sure that the Millennium and Lone Gunman series should be considered part of the X-Files mythology -- especially Millenium. The mythology of the X-Files should be limited to The X-Files series, in my opinion. Millennium had its own storyline. In my experience when people refer to the X-Files mythology they're usually referring to the story within that one series alone. Equazcion ( talk) 20:48, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
At the request of TIAYN I have started an overall summary of the show's mythology, chronologically as it was presented in the series. I have also started a section discussing the behind the scenes development of the mythology. Let me know what your thoughts are. I'll stop where I am now until I see how the others thing about approaching it in this manner. Quiddity99 ( talk) 01:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Quiddity99
I haven't paid much attention to this article in about a month, which seems to be about when it was changed significantly, ie. the non-chronological description of plot elements removed. I might put it back in, because I think it serves the article better, though I wouldn't remove what's currently here; at least not until I could get a sense of what consensus is -- which is how big decisions are supposed to be handled.
I see the "new x-files" heading is still there, despite the discussion above. There's obviously a problem with that.
The "list of mythology episodes" article that seems to be coming could be a problem, as the only definitive listing comes from the Mythology DVD set. All other listings, even those in wider use than the mythology DVD list, are basically original research. Every effort to list the mythology episodes in the original X-Files article became a magnet for original research, ie. people who held their own opinions about which episodes were considered mythology. This might become a similar problem.
It would really be nice if this talk page were used in some manner befitting an article that has changed as much as this one has in the last month. Descriptive edit summaries would also be good. I appreciate TIAYN's efforts, and his work looks nice; However, there's a serious lack of effort towards collaboration here -- which is almost as important -- and way too much singular thinking. I know there are only 3 or 4 people including myself who've worked on this article, but we still all deserve to be in on it. Equazcion ( talk) 13:03, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
I wasn't complaining about Quiddity. TIAYN, see WP:EDITSUMMARY.
There seems to be somewhat of a language barrier here. To reiterate, my main concern is that you, TIAYN, have not discussed major changes here, before making them. Equazcion ( talk) 16:29, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
I took 'disparate' off the description of the character's storylines, since I do not believe the storylines are disparate, but rather it is each character's individual approach to the subject matter of their investigations which is disparate. Fox's list of possible culprits is much wider than Scully's. It's the way they look at the cases that is different. 'Disparate investigative approaches', or something like that-- Neptunerover ( talk) 23:48, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
It's insane that the whole article misuses the term mythology over and over. Made up fictional plots are not mythology. At best they may be a mythos, but honestly even that is stretching things. It's just a story arc. The article needs to be retitled and rewritten. DreamGuy ( talk) 01:55, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
The series have continued in comic book formed published by IDW, the executive producer is still Chris Carter and it's considered canonical, information about the developments of the mythology in the comic books should be included — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.245.202.237 ( talk) 23:33, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Now that there is an actual TV season 10, this article needs to better differentiate it from the comic series that came after the season 9 finale that was also called "Season 10". I think it's just a matter of a minor structure change and maybe one explanatory sentence. I'm willing to take a stab at it, but I wanted to know if anyone had any strong feelings or suggestions I should keep in mind. Transitive Sam ( talk) 05:56, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Can @ Trust Is All You Need:, @ Jonlighthall:, @ Boshaus: et al please quit the edit warring over this? There's no harm in having an episode list here, but the article List of The X-Files episodes, which is linked from the "see also" section here, marks out all the mythology episodes already anyway. So try discussing the damn thing instead of edit warring and throwing out false accusations of vandalism. GRAPPLE X 16:55, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
I don't see what the issue with having a list of the mythology episodes is. The most applicable section in the wiki guidelines to me would be /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Embedded_lists#Lists_of_works_and_timelines , as this seems most similar to a list of works applicable to the mythology episodes. This list does belong in this article as it is not best presented as prose. There have been many people that have been adding the list back versus one user, @ Trust Is All You Need:, who keeps removing it. He is tagging it as vandalism when it clearly does not meet the definition. Boshaus ( talk) 19:13, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Just went through the list of episodes elsewhere and adding the ones that are on here and missing from those lists where others have removed them. I'm inclined to err on the side of keeping any debated mythology episodes marked as mythology episodes, so that those who wish to watch the series' mythology without anything else do not miss anything. I see no reason why there is a benefit to not marking an episode if it might be less mythological than others. 82.45.3.234 ( talk) 17:21, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I (@ Raz0r611:) just registered an account, so that I can say that having the episodes here is extremely helpful. I'm binge watching now and this list helps me skip the monster-of-the week episodes (I hope I don't break any rules by writing here - my first comment). I can find the old page in history (so I'll be okay anyway), but I think the list of episodes is very helpful.
Removed "Jump the Shark" from the mythology list. In its dedicated article Jump_the_Shark_(The_X-Files) it is correctly listed as "monster of the week". And I can confirm that it is unrelated to the mythology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.226.38.140 ( talk) 20:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
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IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A LIST WITH A DESCRIPTION AT THE TOP THAT SAYS
THEN THE LIST SHOULD BE EXACTLY THAT AND NOTHING ELSE
IF PEOPLE ARE "IMPROVING" IT THEN THE PAGE SHOULD BE LOCKED Foogus ( talk) 12:29, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
full citation needed — fullcitationneeded ( t• c) 04:50, 9 July 2023 (UTC)