I've (eventually) began a split of the Myth series, starting with this one having more info on it. While it might now look like much now and even a slight rehash of what is already in the other article, rest assure when I get more on its gameplay, plot, development and reception it will be its own thing soon enough, I swear. Stabby Joe ( talk) 19:21, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
User:Nikkimaria has removed the external link to the Myth wiki (Mythipedia). I have reinstated it. I note that wikis are specifically noted as possible external links by Wikipedia:ELNO#Links_to_be_considered, and that the wiki links at articles like Star Wars, Star Trek, etc have survived the test of time, with no one even seeming to question whether those wikis ought to be linked. If you think the Mythipedia link should not be there, your reason has to be better than "it's a wiki, therefore it can't be linked". Perhaps explain how you believe this SPECIFIC wiki link violates something in Wikipedia:ELNO#Links_normally_to_be_avoided. And even at that, "normally to be avoided" does not mean "must be removed". Mythipedia certainly satisfies the criteria of "Sites that fail to meet criteria for reliable sources yet still contain information about the subject of the article from knowledgeable sources." And since Mythipedia contains documentation written by the developers of the game, it seems it qualifies as "Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to ...amount of detail" (see Wikipedia:ELNO#What_can_normally_be_linked). And since Mythipedia contains a judicious "links" section, it seems it qualifies as "A well-chosen link to a directory of websites or organizations. ...A directory link may be a permanent link". -- Jason C.K. ( talk) 15:27, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey. I noticed that you reverted the US sales figures that I added on Myth II. Wanted to say—the reason the sales figures don't match up is that the ones already in the section are probably inaccurate, and original research to boot. The first Myth only shipped 350,000 copies worldwide as of 1997 ( source), and how many of those were actually sold through by 2000 (when this source appeared) is unknown. As a result, it's OR to write that Myth II sold 350,000 copies on day 1, especially given that Chicago Reader nowhere makes that specific claim. The Bungie article that says the first Myth ultimately sold 350,000 copies ( source) is from the mid-2000s, years after the Chicago Reader piece. It makes sense that the initial 350,000-copy shipment would have sold through by that point.
The sales figures I added were obtained by PC Gamer US from PC Data, the market research firm responsible for tracking PC game sales throughout the 1990s, all the way up until around 2001. PC Data's sales tracking was a main resource for game companies of the era—it was sort of a predecessor to NPD's sales tracking. If you'd like to see the article the Myth II numbers come from, it's scanned here: [1], [2]. PC Data's figures are as accurate as it gets from the era.
Given all these factors, I'm going to go ahead and re-add the US sales figures to the article. JimmyBlackwing ( talk) 06:08, 18 September 2017 (UTC) Bertaut ( talk) 14:12, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
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I've (eventually) began a split of the Myth series, starting with this one having more info on it. While it might now look like much now and even a slight rehash of what is already in the other article, rest assure when I get more on its gameplay, plot, development and reception it will be its own thing soon enough, I swear. Stabby Joe ( talk) 19:21, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
User:Nikkimaria has removed the external link to the Myth wiki (Mythipedia). I have reinstated it. I note that wikis are specifically noted as possible external links by Wikipedia:ELNO#Links_to_be_considered, and that the wiki links at articles like Star Wars, Star Trek, etc have survived the test of time, with no one even seeming to question whether those wikis ought to be linked. If you think the Mythipedia link should not be there, your reason has to be better than "it's a wiki, therefore it can't be linked". Perhaps explain how you believe this SPECIFIC wiki link violates something in Wikipedia:ELNO#Links_normally_to_be_avoided. And even at that, "normally to be avoided" does not mean "must be removed". Mythipedia certainly satisfies the criteria of "Sites that fail to meet criteria for reliable sources yet still contain information about the subject of the article from knowledgeable sources." And since Mythipedia contains documentation written by the developers of the game, it seems it qualifies as "Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to ...amount of detail" (see Wikipedia:ELNO#What_can_normally_be_linked). And since Mythipedia contains a judicious "links" section, it seems it qualifies as "A well-chosen link to a directory of websites or organizations. ...A directory link may be a permanent link". -- Jason C.K. ( talk) 15:27, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey. I noticed that you reverted the US sales figures that I added on Myth II. Wanted to say—the reason the sales figures don't match up is that the ones already in the section are probably inaccurate, and original research to boot. The first Myth only shipped 350,000 copies worldwide as of 1997 ( source), and how many of those were actually sold through by 2000 (when this source appeared) is unknown. As a result, it's OR to write that Myth II sold 350,000 copies on day 1, especially given that Chicago Reader nowhere makes that specific claim. The Bungie article that says the first Myth ultimately sold 350,000 copies ( source) is from the mid-2000s, years after the Chicago Reader piece. It makes sense that the initial 350,000-copy shipment would have sold through by that point.
The sales figures I added were obtained by PC Gamer US from PC Data, the market research firm responsible for tracking PC game sales throughout the 1990s, all the way up until around 2001. PC Data's sales tracking was a main resource for game companies of the era—it was sort of a predecessor to NPD's sales tracking. If you'd like to see the article the Myth II numbers come from, it's scanned here: [1], [2]. PC Data's figures are as accurate as it gets from the era.
Given all these factors, I'm going to go ahead and re-add the US sales figures to the article. JimmyBlackwing ( talk) 06:08, 18 September 2017 (UTC) Bertaut ( talk) 14:12, 18 September 2017 (UTC)