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We have used owr personal list of identified songs in each episode. However there are some episodes that we don't have the name or identified the artist or songs. If you can help the page to be completed, please do it. Thanks everyone. Camohpalli 15:53, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia has a policy against "original research" WP:NOR; information in Wikipedia encyclopedia articles need proper sourcing according to Wikipedia's own stated policies and guidelines: Wikipedia:Reliable sources; WP:Attribution. It is not clear what (in terms of Wikipedia's guidelines and policies) reliable and verifiable sources ( WP:Verifiability) this material comes from. (There is an incorrect "blockquote" code placed in it.) Sources must be authoritative and reliable published sources that are verifiable (not self-published websites, personal sites, or fansites), and not a "personal list" [not clear what that is].) Wikipedia is not a forum for fans. It is an encyclopedia. See "external links" of La Femme Nikita (TV series) for appropriate kinds of external links; fansites are not among them due to Wikipedia policies and guidelines. --NYScholar 21:31, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
- On the contrary, this show took a unique approach to music and soundtrack during its run that others weren't doing at the time. I feel the article has merit. If you're looking for the source of where the songs come from, all you have to do is look up the episode and press play. Source issue solved. As a side note, kudos to Camohpalli for watching every episode and making such detailed notes to provide this page noting LFN's list of used songs- I was extremely impressed to find it. Thanks for all the hard work. ( Tsukiakari ( talk) 04:20, 10 November 2011 (UTC))
1. "unsourced" is not one of the reasons for speedy deletion. I have therefore declined the speedy. 2. As repeatedly held at AfD, it is not even a reason for deletion. Please see the discussions there about other similar articles to see what arguments are used & accepted; if it is thought appropriate for deletion, take it there. I have personally no opinion on this article one way or another. DGG 22:04, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
If it is not to be deleted, then the article needs to be sourced properly. At the moment, it has no sources at all and the creator of this article refers to original research. It is not clear at all who the "we" is in the above post (at top of page): ["We have used owr [sic] personal list of identified songs in each episode."] There is a stray "blockquote" code that is confusing, indicating that the entire page is a quotation from some source, but what source(s)? If the article is not to be deleted, then what is to be done with it? [The poster goes on to encourage others to contribute to this article in the same manner, which could only compound the problems of missing citations and lack of documentation for the material in it; nothing has verifiable reliable sources.] I will check out the discussions that DGG refers to; in the meantime, I have posted these concerns. The article at the moment (as per its creator's post above) appears to be undocumented personal research ("our personal list"): WP:NOR applies to it. As the previous poster (DGG) did not provide a link to the deletion policy page, I am providing it: WP:AFD. See also WP:AD ( Wikipedia:Accuracy dispute), with links to related Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Thank you. --NYScholar 22:38, 23 June 2007 (UTC) [Updated; I suggest again that this article still needs documentation of its sources so that they can be checked and verified by other Wikipedia editors. As the "list" referred to is described merely as "personal" (not published), other Wikipedians do not have access to such sources of "original research." [The list of items appears to be incomplete and its accuracy questionable.] --NYScholar 23:56, 23 June 2007 (UTC)]
- Some or all of the material may come from such self-published
fansites as, say, cynbythesea, or others hosted on geocities or AOL; e.g.
Music from La Femme Nikita (some of which take information from one another). If this article takes its information from such undisclosed sources, it would appear to be engaging either in either
plagiarism from them and/or in incorporating its own self-published website(s) into Wikipedia (without acknowledging that it is doing so), and/or in some other similar violation of Wikipedia's citation guidelines and policies. Such
fansites are not considered citable in Wikipedia articles:
Wikipedia:Reliable sources and neither should a undocumented "personal list" based on material taken from them or other such sites or composed originally by Wikipedia users--again:
WP:NOR. This article needs to supply published reliable and verifiable sources (not
fansites), just as other Wikipedia articles do. It needs to conform to the same standard guidelines and policies as other Wikipedia articles need to do. Otherwise, it should not be in Wikipedia. In brief, it needs
citations: For further guidance, please see:
WP:Cite;
WP:Attribution. --NYScholar 00:14, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
- Specifically, from
WP:NOR:
--NYScholar 00:17, 24 June 2007 (UTC)Wikipedia:No original research ( NOR) is one of three content policies. The others are Wikipedia:Neutral point of view ( NPOV) and Wikipedia:Verifiability ( V). Jointly, these policies determine the type and quality of material that is acceptable in articles. Since the policies complement each other, they should not be interpreted in isolation from one another, and editors should try to familiarize themselves with all three.
- Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published sources (online and paper) for more information and further guidance. Thank you. --NYScholar 00:29, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
- Specifically, from
WP:NOR:
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We have used owr personal list of identified songs in each episode. However there are some episodes that we don't have the name or identified the artist or songs. If you can help the page to be completed, please do it. Thanks everyone. Camohpalli 15:53, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia has a policy against "original research" WP:NOR; information in Wikipedia encyclopedia articles need proper sourcing according to Wikipedia's own stated policies and guidelines: Wikipedia:Reliable sources; WP:Attribution. It is not clear what (in terms of Wikipedia's guidelines and policies) reliable and verifiable sources ( WP:Verifiability) this material comes from. (There is an incorrect "blockquote" code placed in it.) Sources must be authoritative and reliable published sources that are verifiable (not self-published websites, personal sites, or fansites), and not a "personal list" [not clear what that is].) Wikipedia is not a forum for fans. It is an encyclopedia. See "external links" of La Femme Nikita (TV series) for appropriate kinds of external links; fansites are not among them due to Wikipedia policies and guidelines. --NYScholar 21:31, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
- On the contrary, this show took a unique approach to music and soundtrack during its run that others weren't doing at the time. I feel the article has merit. If you're looking for the source of where the songs come from, all you have to do is look up the episode and press play. Source issue solved. As a side note, kudos to Camohpalli for watching every episode and making such detailed notes to provide this page noting LFN's list of used songs- I was extremely impressed to find it. Thanks for all the hard work. ( Tsukiakari ( talk) 04:20, 10 November 2011 (UTC))
1. "unsourced" is not one of the reasons for speedy deletion. I have therefore declined the speedy. 2. As repeatedly held at AfD, it is not even a reason for deletion. Please see the discussions there about other similar articles to see what arguments are used & accepted; if it is thought appropriate for deletion, take it there. I have personally no opinion on this article one way or another. DGG 22:04, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
If it is not to be deleted, then the article needs to be sourced properly. At the moment, it has no sources at all and the creator of this article refers to original research. It is not clear at all who the "we" is in the above post (at top of page): ["We have used owr [sic] personal list of identified songs in each episode."] There is a stray "blockquote" code that is confusing, indicating that the entire page is a quotation from some source, but what source(s)? If the article is not to be deleted, then what is to be done with it? [The poster goes on to encourage others to contribute to this article in the same manner, which could only compound the problems of missing citations and lack of documentation for the material in it; nothing has verifiable reliable sources.] I will check out the discussions that DGG refers to; in the meantime, I have posted these concerns. The article at the moment (as per its creator's post above) appears to be undocumented personal research ("our personal list"): WP:NOR applies to it. As the previous poster (DGG) did not provide a link to the deletion policy page, I am providing it: WP:AFD. See also WP:AD ( Wikipedia:Accuracy dispute), with links to related Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Thank you. --NYScholar 22:38, 23 June 2007 (UTC) [Updated; I suggest again that this article still needs documentation of its sources so that they can be checked and verified by other Wikipedia editors. As the "list" referred to is described merely as "personal" (not published), other Wikipedians do not have access to such sources of "original research." [The list of items appears to be incomplete and its accuracy questionable.] --NYScholar 23:56, 23 June 2007 (UTC)]
- Some or all of the material may come from such self-published
fansites as, say, cynbythesea, or others hosted on geocities or AOL; e.g.
Music from La Femme Nikita (some of which take information from one another). If this article takes its information from such undisclosed sources, it would appear to be engaging either in either
plagiarism from them and/or in incorporating its own self-published website(s) into Wikipedia (without acknowledging that it is doing so), and/or in some other similar violation of Wikipedia's citation guidelines and policies. Such
fansites are not considered citable in Wikipedia articles:
Wikipedia:Reliable sources and neither should a undocumented "personal list" based on material taken from them or other such sites or composed originally by Wikipedia users--again:
WP:NOR. This article needs to supply published reliable and verifiable sources (not
fansites), just as other Wikipedia articles do. It needs to conform to the same standard guidelines and policies as other Wikipedia articles need to do. Otherwise, it should not be in Wikipedia. In brief, it needs
citations: For further guidance, please see:
WP:Cite;
WP:Attribution. --NYScholar 00:14, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
- Specifically, from
WP:NOR:
--NYScholar 00:17, 24 June 2007 (UTC)Wikipedia:No original research ( NOR) is one of three content policies. The others are Wikipedia:Neutral point of view ( NPOV) and Wikipedia:Verifiability ( V). Jointly, these policies determine the type and quality of material that is acceptable in articles. Since the policies complement each other, they should not be interpreted in isolation from one another, and editors should try to familiarize themselves with all three.
- Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published sources (online and paper) for more information and further guidance. Thank you. --NYScholar 00:29, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
- Specifically, from
WP:NOR:
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