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A series of short article based on the music of FF8 have been merged into this general encyclopedia article. The purpose of this is to consolidate the material, which will ultimately make it easier to reach GA. Most of it is poorly written; don't shoot the messanger, or in this case, the merger. — Deckill er 18:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
FFVIII doesn't have Japanese track names, unlike FFVI and FFX. I should add Japanese track names, but is it necessary? I feel that it is necessary to add those to the albums as well -- Sjones23 23:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Should the fact that the demo had a totally different piece of music from "The Landing" be mentioned somewhere (though without referenced to The Rock that someone is sure to make)? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 19:08, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey; it looks like all we need are a few general refs for the albums and other minor tweaks, then we can probably attain GA status without an issue. — Deckill er 23:50, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
As I said in the edit summary, I own it...plus, if you'll notice, the picture of it was left there even when the info was taken out. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 20:41, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Excellent work. No immediate concerns come to mind regarding this article. I suggest it be forwarded to FA as soon as is convenient. Cheers, Lankybugger ○ speak ○ see ○ 17:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Can we remove the infoboxes and consolidate the track listing so they appear nice and neat like on Deus Ex? That might help us take a step toward FA. — Deckill er 01:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
A Legacy section might actually be quite easy to make. FF8 music has appeared in numerous concerts, the black mages have covered it, and so on. We could easily rack up a couple paragraphs and maybe more, since I googled and found interviews with the condutors for FF spinoff concerts, and black mages interviews. — Deckill er 04:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Kariteh 13:48, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Kariteh 14:10, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I bet we can add a significant amount of info to that section. I know Tour de Japon covered "The Oath" and was perhaps the climax of that show, and several other musicians have covered "Eyes on Me" and other things. As an aside, I think we can all agree that this game has the best music in the series :) IX comes close, though. — Deckill er 23:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I think we could probably stand for two more images. A lead-off image of some sort to put in the lead, and one in either the creation or the songs sections. Perhaps a screenshot of Rinoa and Squall aboard the ragnarok to illustrate one of the scenes in which the music plays? Or from the intro? For the lead, perhaps an image of Noruma or something else? It might be hard to find such images. — Deckill er 00:34, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I strongly disagree with the move that was made to merge all Final Fantasy VIII albums into one encyclopedia article. Each Final Fantasy soundtrack or album has their own individual article, and there should be no exception for the FFVIII soundtrack or albums. Besides, the albums Final Fantasy VIII Original Soundtrack, Final Fantasy VIII Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec, and Final Fantasy VIII Piano Collections are all individual albums, and therefore there is no reason why they should not have their own seperate articles with general information on each of them, an infobox, and a list of tracks on the album. So I say that these articles be restored to their original state to stay consistant with the format of the other Final Fantasy soundtrack and album articles, and articles for music albums in general. – Nahald 23:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
The article looks really good now. In fact, I think it may be ready for FAC, which is probably the best place to stamp out any last issues and concerns. Thoughts? Axem Titanium 19:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
It's just an instance of Ratin. Not as common as Engrish, but it happens... Kariteh 18:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Should be merged into this article. Kariteh 11:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
"Yeah Final Fantasy fans are the only people that count." -> Yes, that's exactly what I said. [/sarcasm]. Kariteh 14:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
With such a narrow image, it looks better to me outside the infobox. See my sandbox. Advantages: infobox is shorter, within section "Eyes On Me"; less white space. Opinions? - Fayenatic london (talk) 21:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
A waltz version of this song was played at the party after the wedding of Princess Märtha Louise of Norway and Ari Behn. There used to be a video of it here (titled Se bryllupsparet svinge seg i brudevalsen (Windows Media Video)), but since it happened in 2002, the video is long gone. I know this is a long shot, but I was wondering if any other Norwegians who frequent this site might remember it and know where I can find a copy. I think it'd be an interesting addition to the article if a reference could be found. Davhorn 07:58, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
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Through Googling I found that most sources, the vast majority of them, list track 8 of disc 3 as "Odeka Ke Chocobo", 2 times as many as sources with "Odeka de Chocobo" actually. Can someone verify which name is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.174.14.87 ( talk) 15:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I am unsure of whether it worth mentioning in the article that the version of the FLWV album sold in the iTunes music store differs from the physical CD version (the iTunes version has a truncated "Ending Theme" and is missing the "Eyes On Me" track. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ThisistheHenry ( talk • contribs) 17:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
See Talk:Music_of_the_Final_Fantasy_series#Requested_moves. SDY ( talk) 18:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Why were the album covers removed? - Fayenatic (talk) 17:11, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
"This track is essentially Liberi Fatali transcribed into a piano score" is conjecture and opinion without reference. I move to strike it. DKqwerty ( talk) 18:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Why are the track listnings hidden by default? I can understand the second part, but the first seems to be short and could help the proper formatting of the article. — Ynhockey ( Talk) 11:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I just want to advise you that one of the quote in the FFVIII ost section doesn't match the link in the reference : "When signs of age of the Final Fantasy franchise are shown, Uematsu counterbalances this by creating something weird and wonderful. When the soundtrack becomes too serious, Uematsu suddenly inserts a light-hearted number to lighten the mood". It's not exactly what the reviewer wrote... Zandra[ Moa ? 10:45, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
The notion that the image should be deleted because our content guideline militates against cover art in discographies is obviously misguided. What our guideline seeks to bar is the application of images to summary lists of musical recordings. But what we see here is an extended narrative that is the primary discussion of the item on Wikipedia. It unquestionably goes beyond, far beyond, a "discography" treatment of the item. The cover art is thus presented in the context of extended critical commentary—our encyclopedia's primary critical commentary—on the item and is clearly acceptable use per our content guideline and the overriding policy.
On a broader point: Whether we are contemplating adding fair use media or thinking of deleting such material that another editor has added in good faith, we must keep in mind the purpose and rationale of our policy. In the present case, our policy sheds a clear, strong light. There is simply no worthwhile free content that this image is possibly replacing. This is unquestionably an example of the judicious use of media that enhances the quality of our encyclopedia. It would be worthwhile if all involved reacquainted themselves with the rationale of our policy to understand exactly what its purpose is.— DCGeist ( talk) 08:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
In retrospect, I'm getting a bit sarcastic here as well, which is not really conducive to discussion. Let me be specific: you seem to think that there is some incredibly obvious statement somewhere in the rules that says that identification of the subject of critical commentary is not enough, that there needs to be critical commentary of the image itself. That my understanding of that sentence in WP:NFCI is blatantly contradicted somewhere else. Well then, and I truly mean this quite literally, please show it to me. Quote it right here. Because while it is possible that I'm just missing it while it's staring me in the face, I think that it isn't there. This may mean that the wording needs to change- and why not, we the editors wrote the wording in the first place. But if it isn't there right now as written, then the image is fine until the wording is changed. So please, give me a quote that says I'm wrong. -- Pres N 06:47, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Now that it's pretty clear we can have song and album covers in the article, within limits, should we have the ones we have? It's pretty clear a visual identifier for the main soundtrack is helpful in understanding the article. If it weren't for the "please don't use a lot of them" language in WP:FAIRUSE I would recommend images for all of the songs. But since that would be problematic due to "fair use image overuse" it may be better to put them on none so the article looks more visually balanced, and remove the cover for Eyes On Me. This should not be done as a way to claim "the image cannot be used for fair use" but rather "even if it can be used, we choose not to use it."
Given the recent revert wars, I recommend the images stay as they are until there is a consensus to change. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 23:25, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
The single Eyes on Me (Faye Wong song) is demonstrably notable, and I have finally got round to creating its own article again. - Fayenatic (talk) 14:59, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
The following source should be translated and used to expand the current incomplete article:
Anyone willing to help translate even one page is welcome! Jonathan Hardin' ( talk) 10:48, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
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A series of short article based on the music of FF8 have been merged into this general encyclopedia article. The purpose of this is to consolidate the material, which will ultimately make it easier to reach GA. Most of it is poorly written; don't shoot the messanger, or in this case, the merger. — Deckill er 18:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
FFVIII doesn't have Japanese track names, unlike FFVI and FFX. I should add Japanese track names, but is it necessary? I feel that it is necessary to add those to the albums as well -- Sjones23 23:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Should the fact that the demo had a totally different piece of music from "The Landing" be mentioned somewhere (though without referenced to The Rock that someone is sure to make)? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 19:08, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey; it looks like all we need are a few general refs for the albums and other minor tweaks, then we can probably attain GA status without an issue. — Deckill er 23:50, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
As I said in the edit summary, I own it...plus, if you'll notice, the picture of it was left there even when the info was taken out. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 20:41, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Excellent work. No immediate concerns come to mind regarding this article. I suggest it be forwarded to FA as soon as is convenient. Cheers, Lankybugger ○ speak ○ see ○ 17:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Can we remove the infoboxes and consolidate the track listing so they appear nice and neat like on Deus Ex? That might help us take a step toward FA. — Deckill er 01:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
A Legacy section might actually be quite easy to make. FF8 music has appeared in numerous concerts, the black mages have covered it, and so on. We could easily rack up a couple paragraphs and maybe more, since I googled and found interviews with the condutors for FF spinoff concerts, and black mages interviews. — Deckill er 04:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Kariteh 13:48, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Kariteh 14:10, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I bet we can add a significant amount of info to that section. I know Tour de Japon covered "The Oath" and was perhaps the climax of that show, and several other musicians have covered "Eyes on Me" and other things. As an aside, I think we can all agree that this game has the best music in the series :) IX comes close, though. — Deckill er 23:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I think we could probably stand for two more images. A lead-off image of some sort to put in the lead, and one in either the creation or the songs sections. Perhaps a screenshot of Rinoa and Squall aboard the ragnarok to illustrate one of the scenes in which the music plays? Or from the intro? For the lead, perhaps an image of Noruma or something else? It might be hard to find such images. — Deckill er 00:34, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I strongly disagree with the move that was made to merge all Final Fantasy VIII albums into one encyclopedia article. Each Final Fantasy soundtrack or album has their own individual article, and there should be no exception for the FFVIII soundtrack or albums. Besides, the albums Final Fantasy VIII Original Soundtrack, Final Fantasy VIII Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec, and Final Fantasy VIII Piano Collections are all individual albums, and therefore there is no reason why they should not have their own seperate articles with general information on each of them, an infobox, and a list of tracks on the album. So I say that these articles be restored to their original state to stay consistant with the format of the other Final Fantasy soundtrack and album articles, and articles for music albums in general. – Nahald 23:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
The article looks really good now. In fact, I think it may be ready for FAC, which is probably the best place to stamp out any last issues and concerns. Thoughts? Axem Titanium 19:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
It's just an instance of Ratin. Not as common as Engrish, but it happens... Kariteh 18:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Should be merged into this article. Kariteh 11:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
"Yeah Final Fantasy fans are the only people that count." -> Yes, that's exactly what I said. [/sarcasm]. Kariteh 14:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
With such a narrow image, it looks better to me outside the infobox. See my sandbox. Advantages: infobox is shorter, within section "Eyes On Me"; less white space. Opinions? - Fayenatic london (talk) 21:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
A waltz version of this song was played at the party after the wedding of Princess Märtha Louise of Norway and Ari Behn. There used to be a video of it here (titled Se bryllupsparet svinge seg i brudevalsen (Windows Media Video)), but since it happened in 2002, the video is long gone. I know this is a long shot, but I was wondering if any other Norwegians who frequent this site might remember it and know where I can find a copy. I think it'd be an interesting addition to the article if a reference could be found. Davhorn 07:58, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
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Through Googling I found that most sources, the vast majority of them, list track 8 of disc 3 as "Odeka Ke Chocobo", 2 times as many as sources with "Odeka de Chocobo" actually. Can someone verify which name is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.174.14.87 ( talk) 15:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I am unsure of whether it worth mentioning in the article that the version of the FLWV album sold in the iTunes music store differs from the physical CD version (the iTunes version has a truncated "Ending Theme" and is missing the "Eyes On Me" track. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ThisistheHenry ( talk • contribs) 17:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
See Talk:Music_of_the_Final_Fantasy_series#Requested_moves. SDY ( talk) 18:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Why were the album covers removed? - Fayenatic (talk) 17:11, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
"This track is essentially Liberi Fatali transcribed into a piano score" is conjecture and opinion without reference. I move to strike it. DKqwerty ( talk) 18:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Why are the track listnings hidden by default? I can understand the second part, but the first seems to be short and could help the proper formatting of the article. — Ynhockey ( Talk) 11:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I just want to advise you that one of the quote in the FFVIII ost section doesn't match the link in the reference : "When signs of age of the Final Fantasy franchise are shown, Uematsu counterbalances this by creating something weird and wonderful. When the soundtrack becomes too serious, Uematsu suddenly inserts a light-hearted number to lighten the mood". It's not exactly what the reviewer wrote... Zandra[ Moa ? 10:45, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
The notion that the image should be deleted because our content guideline militates against cover art in discographies is obviously misguided. What our guideline seeks to bar is the application of images to summary lists of musical recordings. But what we see here is an extended narrative that is the primary discussion of the item on Wikipedia. It unquestionably goes beyond, far beyond, a "discography" treatment of the item. The cover art is thus presented in the context of extended critical commentary—our encyclopedia's primary critical commentary—on the item and is clearly acceptable use per our content guideline and the overriding policy.
On a broader point: Whether we are contemplating adding fair use media or thinking of deleting such material that another editor has added in good faith, we must keep in mind the purpose and rationale of our policy. In the present case, our policy sheds a clear, strong light. There is simply no worthwhile free content that this image is possibly replacing. This is unquestionably an example of the judicious use of media that enhances the quality of our encyclopedia. It would be worthwhile if all involved reacquainted themselves with the rationale of our policy to understand exactly what its purpose is.— DCGeist ( talk) 08:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
In retrospect, I'm getting a bit sarcastic here as well, which is not really conducive to discussion. Let me be specific: you seem to think that there is some incredibly obvious statement somewhere in the rules that says that identification of the subject of critical commentary is not enough, that there needs to be critical commentary of the image itself. That my understanding of that sentence in WP:NFCI is blatantly contradicted somewhere else. Well then, and I truly mean this quite literally, please show it to me. Quote it right here. Because while it is possible that I'm just missing it while it's staring me in the face, I think that it isn't there. This may mean that the wording needs to change- and why not, we the editors wrote the wording in the first place. But if it isn't there right now as written, then the image is fine until the wording is changed. So please, give me a quote that says I'm wrong. -- Pres N 06:47, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Now that it's pretty clear we can have song and album covers in the article, within limits, should we have the ones we have? It's pretty clear a visual identifier for the main soundtrack is helpful in understanding the article. If it weren't for the "please don't use a lot of them" language in WP:FAIRUSE I would recommend images for all of the songs. But since that would be problematic due to "fair use image overuse" it may be better to put them on none so the article looks more visually balanced, and remove the cover for Eyes On Me. This should not be done as a way to claim "the image cannot be used for fair use" but rather "even if it can be used, we choose not to use it."
Given the recent revert wars, I recommend the images stay as they are until there is a consensus to change. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 23:25, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
The single Eyes on Me (Faye Wong song) is demonstrably notable, and I have finally got round to creating its own article again. - Fayenatic (talk) 14:59, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
The following source should be translated and used to expand the current incomplete article:
Anyone willing to help translate even one page is welcome! Jonathan Hardin' ( talk) 10:48, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
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The article " Eyes on Me (Faye Wong song)" was merged into this article in August 2021 by PresN. At an FFD discussion, someone opposed the merger, citing past discussions in 2007: this one and Talk:Eyes on Me (Faye Wong song)#Eyes On Me. Redirecting the song page was undone, but I've not yet undone the copy-and-pasting of the content from the song article. Shall the song article be redirected (again) to this article? -- George Ho ( talk) 01:32, 27 February 2022 (UTC)