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A handful of editors have attempted to remove the National Council on Severe Autism statement.
To which it has been reverted, generally without an elaboration or with a statement along the lines of such a change having been previously rejected and requiring WP:CONSENSUS.
However no consensus for or against appears to have been reached yet. It is briefly mentioned twice on this talk page already between a couple of editors, but no more definitive conclusion appears to have been reached.
As such, making this section to hopefully spark the previously involved editors and/or any future ones to discuss the matter.
The points presented against it's inclusion seem to rest on its less direct relevance to the reception of the film in the case of the statement from Escher, and of the organisation possibly being a hate group and their inclusion giving undue weight to them.
The points for its inclusion seem to rest on the article possibly being too biased against the film and Sia in its absence.
2A02:C7C:C47D:8700:54DE:4FA7:FFB1:593E ( talk) 14:31, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
Currently, the three stars of the film, Hudson, Odom and Ziegler, are listed under "Starring" in the infobox. Both the plot summary and the list of musical numbers confirm that these three are the only stars of the film. Template:Infobox film states: "In general, use the billing block of the poster for the film's original theatrical release as a rule of thumb for listing starring actors..... An alternative approach may be determined by local consensus." The template is, of course, only essay-level guidance, not an actual Wikipedia guideline or policy. MOS:INFOBOX is the actual guideline that applies here, which states that "the purpose of an infobox: to summarize... key facts that appear in the article.... The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose.... [W]herever possible, present information in short form, and exclude any unnecessary content." The status quo in this article has been to list the three stars of the film rather than the full list of names given on the film poster. The three names are the "key facts" about the cast of this film. The full list of names is, of course, given in the text of the article, but I support the status quo, in order to keep the infobox concise and effective. I welcome comments from other editors interested in the article. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 18:10, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
:Fine. You
WP:WIN this
WP:BATTLE! You want to get me blocked for comments without any obvious personal attacks? I am striking all of them! I do not believe any of that. There, I did the right thing and decided to be nice! Now leave my safety alone! And do not expect me to help with your Sia articles in any way.
They are yours for you to edit.
User:HumanxAnthro (
BanjoxKazooie) 23:34, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
:SsilverS, please do not get the wrong idea that I am trying to tear you down. You obviously have a fantastic portfolio of GA and FA in articles about musicals and theaters, and I thank you for it. But you do not get the right to promote unencyclopedic edits and misread policy because of that. So please, for my own sanity and for your own reputation, stop.
User:HumanxAnthro (
BanjoxKazooie) 19:54, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Nah, you know what, while I will not eat any Sia articles anymore, I need at least my points in this discussion. The problems are too obvious to let go:
User:HumanxAnthro ( BanjoxKazooie) 11:21, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Starting this section to hopefully welcome discussion of why that statement shouldn't be included, as no clear reason to exclude it is present.
As for inclusion,
2A02:C7C:C4CD:A500:1972:A85A:633A:9E5B ( talk) 14:45, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Sister (Upcoming film) and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 12#Sister (Upcoming film) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Steel1943 ( talk) 03:35, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
The redirect Music (upcoming film) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 27 § Music (upcoming film) until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 ( talk) 17:10, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
A handful of editors have attempted to remove the National Council on Severe Autism statement.
To which it has been reverted, generally without an elaboration or with a statement along the lines of such a change having been previously rejected and requiring WP:CONSENSUS.
However no consensus for or against appears to have been reached yet. It is briefly mentioned twice on this talk page already between a couple of editors, but no more definitive conclusion appears to have been reached.
As such, making this section to hopefully spark the previously involved editors and/or any future ones to discuss the matter.
The points presented against it's inclusion seem to rest on its less direct relevance to the reception of the film in the case of the statement from Escher, and of the organisation possibly being a hate group and their inclusion giving undue weight to them.
The points for its inclusion seem to rest on the article possibly being too biased against the film and Sia in its absence.
2A02:C7C:C47D:8700:54DE:4FA7:FFB1:593E ( talk) 14:31, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
Currently, the three stars of the film, Hudson, Odom and Ziegler, are listed under "Starring" in the infobox. Both the plot summary and the list of musical numbers confirm that these three are the only stars of the film. Template:Infobox film states: "In general, use the billing block of the poster for the film's original theatrical release as a rule of thumb for listing starring actors..... An alternative approach may be determined by local consensus." The template is, of course, only essay-level guidance, not an actual Wikipedia guideline or policy. MOS:INFOBOX is the actual guideline that applies here, which states that "the purpose of an infobox: to summarize... key facts that appear in the article.... The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose.... [W]herever possible, present information in short form, and exclude any unnecessary content." The status quo in this article has been to list the three stars of the film rather than the full list of names given on the film poster. The three names are the "key facts" about the cast of this film. The full list of names is, of course, given in the text of the article, but I support the status quo, in order to keep the infobox concise and effective. I welcome comments from other editors interested in the article. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 18:10, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
:Fine. You
WP:WIN this
WP:BATTLE! You want to get me blocked for comments without any obvious personal attacks? I am striking all of them! I do not believe any of that. There, I did the right thing and decided to be nice! Now leave my safety alone! And do not expect me to help with your Sia articles in any way.
They are yours for you to edit.
User:HumanxAnthro (
BanjoxKazooie) 23:34, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
:SsilverS, please do not get the wrong idea that I am trying to tear you down. You obviously have a fantastic portfolio of GA and FA in articles about musicals and theaters, and I thank you for it. But you do not get the right to promote unencyclopedic edits and misread policy because of that. So please, for my own sanity and for your own reputation, stop.
User:HumanxAnthro (
BanjoxKazooie) 19:54, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Nah, you know what, while I will not eat any Sia articles anymore, I need at least my points in this discussion. The problems are too obvious to let go:
User:HumanxAnthro ( BanjoxKazooie) 11:21, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Starting this section to hopefully welcome discussion of why that statement shouldn't be included, as no clear reason to exclude it is present.
As for inclusion,
2A02:C7C:C4CD:A500:1972:A85A:633A:9E5B ( talk) 14:45, 1 May 2024 (UTC)