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Though I don't hear it often, I always hear the word mispronounced muskidime. PrometheusX303 02:43, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
That's extremely common here in the central and western part of North Carolina. Also common to hear 'scuppi-dine/-dime' or 'scuffey-dine/-dime' used for Scuppernong MalkavianX 18:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
very few wineries use this grape, i think it's useful information to include links to wineries that use it in wine production
There is a reference in the article that Scuppernong is used to make red Muscadine wines. As a Muscadine vintner, I would like to comment that Scuppernong is a "white" Muscadine grape. While it is possible to make red wines from white grapes, that practice would require either the addition red skins during fermentation or some other form of coloring. I am VERY new to Wiki protocol and will need some time to better understand the process of adding content. I have, what I think, is relevant information I would like to add if allowed. Please advise... — Preceding unsigned comment added by MercerHouse ( talk • contribs) 09:46, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
I re-added the external links to the vineyards that Pollinator deleted. They contain relavant information regarding muscadine wine and are not intended to be spam. Havardj 13:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I've added the two references that are used on the resveratrol page regarding the content of this substance in muscadine and red wines. So I have removed that fact label. Unfortunately, the online abstract doesn't say how much more resveratrol is found in muscadine wines, it just says that the amount "compares favorably" to other wines. Please, somebody who has the required access check this.
Furthermore, I've added a new fact label to the statement indicating that both red and wine muscadine wines have similarly high resveratrol content. From the abstract of the first study, I couldn't verify this either. It speaks about bronze and dark-skinned berries, but it doesn't mention different types of wines. --- 4.159.11.221 02:15, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
http://etd.lsu.edu/docs/available/etd-01202006-082858/unrestricted/LeBlanc_dis.pdf CULTIVAR, JUICE EXTRACTION, ULTRA VIOLET IRRADIATION AND STORAGE INFLUENCE THE STILBENE CONTENT OF MUSCADINE GRAPE (Vitis rotundifolia Michx.) by Mark R. LeBlanc May 2006. This is a tremendous resource: Over a hundred pages of great detail, online. Discusses red and white wines. 69.87.204.234 02:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC) My study of this so far leads me to this summary of this complex matter: for non-muscadine wines, white wines tend to have much less resveratrol than red wines, perhaps because of having less involvement with the skins during processing. For muscadine wines, red still tends to have more than white, but the difference is not so great, perhaps only about a factor of two, for some reason. And of the muscadine wines, the table wines seem to have the most, compared to ports etc. 69.87.194.175 20:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
We need to find out the amount of Resveratrol in the grapes as fresh fruit, and in the various derived food products 69.87.201.38 15:15, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I'd eat Muscadine grapes daily if I could. But they are not generally available. It seems like Muscadine raisins would be the next best thing. But I cannot find any source. Do they exist? 69.87.203.190 20:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if they exist commercially, but I've had homemade ones. They're about like you would expect: they taste good but they are really, really leathery. Elakazal 23:29, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
The intro has been "cleaned up" in a way that I fear obscures the "tradition" (rather than "requirement") of eating the insides of the fresh grapes/berries in a certain ritual that is commonly described -- it might be better to quote that ritual from somewhere... And I fear a conflict between this tradition, and getting the health benefits from the skins. But not having had the opportunity to eat any fresh, I'm not in a very good position to work these matters out. 69.87.204.125 20:09, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Hillside Orchard Farms in Georgia has a broad selection of Muscadine products at rock-bottom retail prices. The easiest way to browse their offerings is to download their catalog. You can sample a dozen products for under $25, just another flat $7 for shipping. But all their products are heavily sweetened, with sugar -- still seeking the ideal source for pure real muscadine... 69.87.204.125 20:20, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
This article talk page was automatically added with {{ WikiProject Food and drink}} banner as it falls under Category:Food or one of its subcategories. If you find this addition an error, Kindly undo the changes and update the inappropriate categories if needed. The bot was instructed to tagg these articles upon consenus from WikiProject Food and drink. You can find the related request for tagging here . Maximum and carefull attention was done to avoid any wrongly tagging any categories , but mistakes may happen... If you have concerns , please inform on the project talk page -- TinucherianBot ( talk) 19:38, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
There is actually little or no resveratrol in Muscadine grapes:
-- Phenylalanine ( talk) 14:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes but subsequent studies found no or little resveratrol in different varieties of muscadine grapes:
-- Phenylalanine ( talk) 17:45, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
While initial reports indicated that muscadine grapes could contain high concentrations of resveratrol, [1] [2] subsequent studies found no or little resveratrol in different varieties of muscadine grapes. [3] [4]
Fine by me, thanks. -- Paul144 ( talk) 18:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
A number of reports have indicated that muscadine grapes may contain high concentrations of resveratrol and that wines produced from these grapes, both red and white, may contain more than 40 mg/L. [1] [2] However, subsequent studies have found no or little resveratrol in different varieties of muscadine grapes. [5] [6]
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Several studies showed that muscadine grapes may contain high concentrations of resveratrol and that wines produced from these grapes, both red and white, may contain more than 40 mg/L. [1] [2] However, subsequent studies demonstrated no or little resveratrol in different varieties of muscadine grapes, [7] [8], results that may be explained by regional differences in soil composition or other cultivation factors, season and degree of ripeness when the samples were obtained and differences in laboratory procedures.
-- Paul144 ( talk) 19:19, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
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Should this page not be moved to "Vitis rotundifolia" with a redirect from Muscadine/Muscadines to that page? Other plants or biological items on Wikipedia are in as their scientific name. -- Abc orn 21:52, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
The genus was changed from Vitis to Muscadinia with this edit ( http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Muscadine&oldid=426087609). The editors failure to cite references and misspelling of the new genus (as Muscadina) doesn't inspire much confidence. There do appear to be some very good reasons for recognizing Muscadinia as a distinct genus, and some very recent publications do support this interpretation. At this point however, Muscadinia rotundifolia seems a little premature ( WP:CRYSTALBALL); the species is far more widely known as Vitis at this time. If Muscadinia is to be recognized, it should have its own genus page, and some species should be moved from the Vitis page (which currently lists V. rotundifolia). For the time being, I plan on changing Muscadinia back to Vitis on this page if there are no objections Plantdrew ( talk) 06:07, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
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Though I don't hear it often, I always hear the word mispronounced muskidime. PrometheusX303 02:43, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
That's extremely common here in the central and western part of North Carolina. Also common to hear 'scuppi-dine/-dime' or 'scuffey-dine/-dime' used for Scuppernong MalkavianX 18:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
very few wineries use this grape, i think it's useful information to include links to wineries that use it in wine production
There is a reference in the article that Scuppernong is used to make red Muscadine wines. As a Muscadine vintner, I would like to comment that Scuppernong is a "white" Muscadine grape. While it is possible to make red wines from white grapes, that practice would require either the addition red skins during fermentation or some other form of coloring. I am VERY new to Wiki protocol and will need some time to better understand the process of adding content. I have, what I think, is relevant information I would like to add if allowed. Please advise... — Preceding unsigned comment added by MercerHouse ( talk • contribs) 09:46, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
I re-added the external links to the vineyards that Pollinator deleted. They contain relavant information regarding muscadine wine and are not intended to be spam. Havardj 13:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I've added the two references that are used on the resveratrol page regarding the content of this substance in muscadine and red wines. So I have removed that fact label. Unfortunately, the online abstract doesn't say how much more resveratrol is found in muscadine wines, it just says that the amount "compares favorably" to other wines. Please, somebody who has the required access check this.
Furthermore, I've added a new fact label to the statement indicating that both red and wine muscadine wines have similarly high resveratrol content. From the abstract of the first study, I couldn't verify this either. It speaks about bronze and dark-skinned berries, but it doesn't mention different types of wines. --- 4.159.11.221 02:15, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
http://etd.lsu.edu/docs/available/etd-01202006-082858/unrestricted/LeBlanc_dis.pdf CULTIVAR, JUICE EXTRACTION, ULTRA VIOLET IRRADIATION AND STORAGE INFLUENCE THE STILBENE CONTENT OF MUSCADINE GRAPE (Vitis rotundifolia Michx.) by Mark R. LeBlanc May 2006. This is a tremendous resource: Over a hundred pages of great detail, online. Discusses red and white wines. 69.87.204.234 02:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC) My study of this so far leads me to this summary of this complex matter: for non-muscadine wines, white wines tend to have much less resveratrol than red wines, perhaps because of having less involvement with the skins during processing. For muscadine wines, red still tends to have more than white, but the difference is not so great, perhaps only about a factor of two, for some reason. And of the muscadine wines, the table wines seem to have the most, compared to ports etc. 69.87.194.175 20:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
We need to find out the amount of Resveratrol in the grapes as fresh fruit, and in the various derived food products 69.87.201.38 15:15, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I'd eat Muscadine grapes daily if I could. But they are not generally available. It seems like Muscadine raisins would be the next best thing. But I cannot find any source. Do they exist? 69.87.203.190 20:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if they exist commercially, but I've had homemade ones. They're about like you would expect: they taste good but they are really, really leathery. Elakazal 23:29, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
The intro has been "cleaned up" in a way that I fear obscures the "tradition" (rather than "requirement") of eating the insides of the fresh grapes/berries in a certain ritual that is commonly described -- it might be better to quote that ritual from somewhere... And I fear a conflict between this tradition, and getting the health benefits from the skins. But not having had the opportunity to eat any fresh, I'm not in a very good position to work these matters out. 69.87.204.125 20:09, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Hillside Orchard Farms in Georgia has a broad selection of Muscadine products at rock-bottom retail prices. The easiest way to browse their offerings is to download their catalog. You can sample a dozen products for under $25, just another flat $7 for shipping. But all their products are heavily sweetened, with sugar -- still seeking the ideal source for pure real muscadine... 69.87.204.125 20:20, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
This article talk page was automatically added with {{ WikiProject Food and drink}} banner as it falls under Category:Food or one of its subcategories. If you find this addition an error, Kindly undo the changes and update the inappropriate categories if needed. The bot was instructed to tagg these articles upon consenus from WikiProject Food and drink. You can find the related request for tagging here . Maximum and carefull attention was done to avoid any wrongly tagging any categories , but mistakes may happen... If you have concerns , please inform on the project talk page -- TinucherianBot ( talk) 19:38, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
There is actually little or no resveratrol in Muscadine grapes:
-- Phenylalanine ( talk) 14:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes but subsequent studies found no or little resveratrol in different varieties of muscadine grapes:
-- Phenylalanine ( talk) 17:45, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
While initial reports indicated that muscadine grapes could contain high concentrations of resveratrol, [1] [2] subsequent studies found no or little resveratrol in different varieties of muscadine grapes. [3] [4]
Fine by me, thanks. -- Paul144 ( talk) 18:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
A number of reports have indicated that muscadine grapes may contain high concentrations of resveratrol and that wines produced from these grapes, both red and white, may contain more than 40 mg/L. [1] [2] However, subsequent studies have found no or little resveratrol in different varieties of muscadine grapes. [5] [6]
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Several studies showed that muscadine grapes may contain high concentrations of resveratrol and that wines produced from these grapes, both red and white, may contain more than 40 mg/L. [1] [2] However, subsequent studies demonstrated no or little resveratrol in different varieties of muscadine grapes, [7] [8], results that may be explained by regional differences in soil composition or other cultivation factors, season and degree of ripeness when the samples were obtained and differences in laboratory procedures.
-- Paul144 ( talk) 19:19, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
References
Should this page not be moved to "Vitis rotundifolia" with a redirect from Muscadine/Muscadines to that page? Other plants or biological items on Wikipedia are in as their scientific name. -- Abc orn 21:52, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
The genus was changed from Vitis to Muscadinia with this edit ( http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Muscadine&oldid=426087609). The editors failure to cite references and misspelling of the new genus (as Muscadina) doesn't inspire much confidence. There do appear to be some very good reasons for recognizing Muscadinia as a distinct genus, and some very recent publications do support this interpretation. At this point however, Muscadinia rotundifolia seems a little premature ( WP:CRYSTALBALL); the species is far more widely known as Vitis at this time. If Muscadinia is to be recognized, it should have its own genus page, and some species should be moved from the Vitis page (which currently lists V. rotundifolia). For the time being, I plan on changing Muscadinia back to Vitis on this page if there are no objections Plantdrew ( talk) 06:07, 10 January 2012 (UTC)