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Trial Commences 10th March 2008... the 5 named are as follows on Lancashire court web site, they will appear before HIS HONOUR JUDGE RUSSELL QC RECORDER OF PRESTON in Court number 10 :
http://www.courtnews1.co.uk/courtlists/current/prest_T080310.02.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.175.149.54 ( talk)
Witness Intimidation
Joseph Hulme was also reportedly arrested for witness intimidation and bailed out, although charges for this weren't brough. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/aug/03/ukcrime.sophielancaster — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18C:4300:2950:45B:53E1:822B:7773 ( talk) 20:11, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
The paragraph about about Bizarre's "Proud to be Different" campaign is sufficient. The next paragraph, with a tenuous link to the murder of Sophie, gives undue weight to a selfpublished book by non-notable author. Other attempts at promoting this book, by several belligerent IPs, have been removed from the City of London Police, 7 July 2005 London bombings and 21 July 2005 London bombings articles. I think the article would benefit from the removal of this paragraph. Grim23 ★ 03:35, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
-- 189.248.87.125 ( talk) 00:53, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
The book Weirdo.Mosher.Freak is entirely about the Sophie Lancaster murder, and has independent reviews in addition to the reference in the article. [this link is bad because Wikipedia is blocking it: www.aboutmyarea.co.uk/Lancashire/Rossendale/BB4/News/Local-News/171332-WEIRDO-MOSHER-FREAK-(if-only-theyd-stopped-at-name-The-Murder-of-Sophie-Lancaster] [1] [2] [3] Its inclusion in this article seems appropriate to me.
The book Stab Proof Scarecrows (I think its title should have been Stab-proof Scarecrows) is an opinion by its author about what he perceives is wrong with policing in Britain. From the cited reference plus these [4] [5] [6] [7] it seems Lance Manley (the author) is using the Sophie Lancaster murder as justification for his opinions rather than providing facts about it. Lance Manley is quoted "I have dedicated my book to Sophie with her mother Sylvia's permission. One chapter is about her attack and why it was one reason I resigned from the police." [8] While these views might be relevant to an article about policing in Britain, they seem somewhat tangential to this article. I haven't read the book, but if it does contain some fact about the Sophie Lancaster murder then that fact should be added to this article with this book as its reference.
Jim Craigie ( talk) 13:31, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049042/Sophie-Lancaster-killer-Ryan-Herbert-posts-Facebook-photos-cushy-prison-life.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clarksmom ( talk • contribs) 07:22, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
...Nu Metallers, not Goths. They listened to Metal, not Goth. A "mosher" is a Metalhead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.134.17.172 ( talk) 16:15, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hi everyone. I'm thinking of making a Wikipedia page for The Sophie Lancaster Foundation. However, I'm not sure if there is enough information from third-party sources about the charity to make a page substantial enough for Wikipedia's standards. Therefore I was hoping to leave this here and ask people to please leave any links here with good information about the charity e.g. anything regarding: its history, activities, campaigns etc that are from third party sources (basically just not the charity's own website). These should come from reputable sources, such as news organisations (local or national), other charities, campaign groups etc. Information from its own website will be used if the page is created, its just when it comes to references on Wikipedia, third-party sources are preferable. Thank you for your time and thanks in advance to anyone that decides to help, even if you look and can't find anything, thank you for trying. Helper201 ( talk) 06:45, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
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Trial Commences 10th March 2008... the 5 named are as follows on Lancashire court web site, they will appear before HIS HONOUR JUDGE RUSSELL QC RECORDER OF PRESTON in Court number 10 :
http://www.courtnews1.co.uk/courtlists/current/prest_T080310.02.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.175.149.54 ( talk)
Witness Intimidation
Joseph Hulme was also reportedly arrested for witness intimidation and bailed out, although charges for this weren't brough. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/aug/03/ukcrime.sophielancaster — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18C:4300:2950:45B:53E1:822B:7773 ( talk) 20:11, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
The paragraph about about Bizarre's "Proud to be Different" campaign is sufficient. The next paragraph, with a tenuous link to the murder of Sophie, gives undue weight to a selfpublished book by non-notable author. Other attempts at promoting this book, by several belligerent IPs, have been removed from the City of London Police, 7 July 2005 London bombings and 21 July 2005 London bombings articles. I think the article would benefit from the removal of this paragraph. Grim23 ★ 03:35, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
-- 189.248.87.125 ( talk) 00:53, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
The book Weirdo.Mosher.Freak is entirely about the Sophie Lancaster murder, and has independent reviews in addition to the reference in the article. [this link is bad because Wikipedia is blocking it: www.aboutmyarea.co.uk/Lancashire/Rossendale/BB4/News/Local-News/171332-WEIRDO-MOSHER-FREAK-(if-only-theyd-stopped-at-name-The-Murder-of-Sophie-Lancaster] [1] [2] [3] Its inclusion in this article seems appropriate to me.
The book Stab Proof Scarecrows (I think its title should have been Stab-proof Scarecrows) is an opinion by its author about what he perceives is wrong with policing in Britain. From the cited reference plus these [4] [5] [6] [7] it seems Lance Manley (the author) is using the Sophie Lancaster murder as justification for his opinions rather than providing facts about it. Lance Manley is quoted "I have dedicated my book to Sophie with her mother Sylvia's permission. One chapter is about her attack and why it was one reason I resigned from the police." [8] While these views might be relevant to an article about policing in Britain, they seem somewhat tangential to this article. I haven't read the book, but if it does contain some fact about the Sophie Lancaster murder then that fact should be added to this article with this book as its reference.
Jim Craigie ( talk) 13:31, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049042/Sophie-Lancaster-killer-Ryan-Herbert-posts-Facebook-photos-cushy-prison-life.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clarksmom ( talk • contribs) 07:22, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
...Nu Metallers, not Goths. They listened to Metal, not Goth. A "mosher" is a Metalhead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.134.17.172 ( talk) 16:15, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hi everyone. I'm thinking of making a Wikipedia page for The Sophie Lancaster Foundation. However, I'm not sure if there is enough information from third-party sources about the charity to make a page substantial enough for Wikipedia's standards. Therefore I was hoping to leave this here and ask people to please leave any links here with good information about the charity e.g. anything regarding: its history, activities, campaigns etc that are from third party sources (basically just not the charity's own website). These should come from reputable sources, such as news organisations (local or national), other charities, campaign groups etc. Information from its own website will be used if the page is created, its just when it comes to references on Wikipedia, third-party sources are preferable. Thank you for your time and thanks in advance to anyone that decides to help, even if you look and can't find anything, thank you for trying. Helper201 ( talk) 06:45, 14 July 2017 (UTC)