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To Yerevantsi, I don't hold grudge against your or your ethnicity's background. But judge from your name that implied you are an Armenian, I don't see any urgency of you to always reverted or undo citation needed that I put on the introduction of Ararat's page. If we wanted to improve this article, we need to put the citation for what can be considered as "claim". By giving citation needed I by no mean willingly move and motivate to vandalise or undermine Armenian topics in en.wiki. Perhaps, instead of keeping reverse it, you can put the source that backs the claim up. Thank you, շնորհակալություն, shnorhakalutyun. Mfikriansori ( talk)
Or something similar, maybe "Origin of the mythology"? Banderson1962 ( talk) 06:38, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Yerevantsi, you have reverted my edit, claiming all three of my sources are unreliable and saying that I am using nationalistic terms. "these aren't reliable sources, "nothern Kurdistan" is a nationalist term implying the existence of a "Greater" Kurdistan"-Yerevantsi. Karkafs Desiderium ( talk) 03:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Do reliable sources (see WP:RS) explicitly refer to Ararat as being in "Kurdistan" (whatever that means in this context)? How relevant is it? ---- Երևանցի talk 17:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
I have now collected two sources wich support Ararat being in Kurdistan and being its highest peak (although that is logically already the case if it is in Kurdistan but for the sake of clarity I have included that source in my edit). Now I have no consensus here, so I would like to reach that. The edit wich I want to reinstate is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Mount_Ararat&diff=prev&oldid=1235639053. @ Yerevantsi we had a disagreement so id like to reslove that. Karkafs Desiderium ( talk) 11:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure we're on the same page. What you're trying to achieve here is WP:OR. The statement/claim that Ararat is the highest peak of the Armenian plateau/highlands is widely found in scholarly literature, e.g.:
You can't just cite maps in an attempt to prove that Ararat is in "Kurdistan" (in quotes because it's not well-defined). We actually need scholarly sources explicitly stating that and explaining the relevance of that statement. In contrast, Ararat's association with the Armenian people and its central location in the Armenian plateau is extensively covered in this article using a myriad of sources. ---- Երևանցի talk 10:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
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To Yerevantsi, I don't hold grudge against your or your ethnicity's background. But judge from your name that implied you are an Armenian, I don't see any urgency of you to always reverted or undo citation needed that I put on the introduction of Ararat's page. If we wanted to improve this article, we need to put the citation for what can be considered as "claim". By giving citation needed I by no mean willingly move and motivate to vandalise or undermine Armenian topics in en.wiki. Perhaps, instead of keeping reverse it, you can put the source that backs the claim up. Thank you, շնորհակալություն, shnorhakalutyun. Mfikriansori ( talk)
Or something similar, maybe "Origin of the mythology"? Banderson1962 ( talk) 06:38, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Yerevantsi, you have reverted my edit, claiming all three of my sources are unreliable and saying that I am using nationalistic terms. "these aren't reliable sources, "nothern Kurdistan" is a nationalist term implying the existence of a "Greater" Kurdistan"-Yerevantsi. Karkafs Desiderium ( talk) 03:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Do reliable sources (see WP:RS) explicitly refer to Ararat as being in "Kurdistan" (whatever that means in this context)? How relevant is it? ---- Երևանցի talk 17:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
I have now collected two sources wich support Ararat being in Kurdistan and being its highest peak (although that is logically already the case if it is in Kurdistan but for the sake of clarity I have included that source in my edit). Now I have no consensus here, so I would like to reach that. The edit wich I want to reinstate is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Mount_Ararat&diff=prev&oldid=1235639053. @ Yerevantsi we had a disagreement so id like to reslove that. Karkafs Desiderium ( talk) 11:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure we're on the same page. What you're trying to achieve here is WP:OR. The statement/claim that Ararat is the highest peak of the Armenian plateau/highlands is widely found in scholarly literature, e.g.:
You can't just cite maps in an attempt to prove that Ararat is in "Kurdistan" (in quotes because it's not well-defined). We actually need scholarly sources explicitly stating that and explaining the relevance of that statement. In contrast, Ararat's association with the Armenian people and its central location in the Armenian plateau is extensively covered in this article using a myriad of sources. ---- Երևանցի talk 10:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC)