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i have one question about arab population increases in iraq despite the war despite the fac that millions of peoples left iraq every arab city seems to have a population growth of 10% mosul had 1,75 milions in 2002 , and now six years later it has grown to 2,8 millions this 130.000 per year or 7% but how is it possible if people actually flee the city over 200.000 people have fled the city there is no immigration to the city worth of talking of but according to wikipedia mossul and baghdad have doubled their population two of the wars wortst affected cities —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.184.74.135 ( talk) 07:19, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Here is a picture of the Saddam mosque in Mosul... I believe. gren 08:35, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Somebody just changed the percentage of the Arab population of the city of Mosul from 80% to 60%. On which proof is this change based? Could 80.136.90.7 explain why he changed it? And was the percentage based on the census of 2002, as mentioned in the sentence before? Does the person who changed the percentage to 60% have any new information? Until further explanation I think the 80% should be seen as correct. Nightworker 22:29, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
It is very difficult to estimate the percentage of each ethinc group in Iraq, first because of Saddam's biased figures, and second because any census that is going to be done in the near future is even more biased due to the manipulations of different Iraqi political parties that try to sell their own agenda.
But, regarding Mosul where my ancestors lived for ages, I can say that the vast majority of Mosul are Arabs (mostly Muslims but also christians) possibly around 70%, Kurds are the second largest ethnic group, Turkomans come next. This fact has never been an issue till recent years when politicians started to play their own games inorder to gain more control and power over the city.
The language spoken in markets, Schools, University colleges and official buildings is Arabic, unless that the people who speak are all Kurdish or Turkomans.. Mosul is known for it own Arabic Dialect, and there are many families and tribes, mostly of Arabic origins who lived there for ages, everyone can distinguish individuals who are originally from Mosul city ,even if they live elsewhere in Iraq, just by reading their last names.
Due to the fact that Mosul is a big and a major city in the northern part of Iraq, lots of migrations from rural areas and nearby towns were directed toward Mosul (over a long period of time), these migrations which included different ethnic groups led to changes in the demographic and the social nature of the city.
It is true that Saddam's regime didn't allow kurds to hold properties and real-estates (which is unfair I believe) but still most of them were not originally residents of Mosul City, and he had a similar law in Baghdad, where he didn't allow anyone to buy reale-state in Baghdad unless he/she is born their no matter what ethnic group he/she are from.
Still, even if they are all allowed to own their houses and register as Kurds they wont be the Majority in Mosul in any possible way.
Also, the half of the city which resides on the west bank of the tigris river is mostly populated by Arabs, and this part of the city is the oldest and the most heavily populated, the east side where I live is controversial, even though I also believe that it is mostly Arabic, except for some neighborhoods where Kurds are the Majority in them only.
Finally, I don't always trust the US military sources due to the fact that they cooperate with Kurdish political parties and militias and rely on them heavily, while partially ignoring the Arabs in the city. And this probably is one of the reasons for the unstable security situation in Mosul.
Regards, Prince-of-Mosul
the census of 2002 is not right
the iraqi government said that kurds only represent 8% of the population
we have to wait for the next census
but mossul is more diversed then it semms from this
the majority of the population of the eastern bank of the city is kurdish
arabs are only the majority of the population on the west side
the census of 2002 said that only 12% of the population of kerkuk were kurds
these are biased figures , and election results proved that they are wrong, they were made in order to undermine the size of the kurdish population
thére are enough article about the city , from journalist , us-soldiers etc and there are historical data about the ethnic make up of the town and arabs do not represent 80% of the city population
and believe me , nearly 50% of the population live on the eastern side
the reason why kurds were only counted as 8% of the city population , is because kurds were not allowed to buy or sell land , that is why a lot said that they are arabs
and the census counted yezidis and shabaks as nonkurds
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/KO%20News/18-9-03-kurds-buying-property-mosu.html The law back then, when Saddam Hussein's Baath Party ran things, prohibited Kurds from buying property unless they renounced their Kurdish ethnicity and declared themselves Arabs.
So thousands of Kurds solved the problem by buying property in the name of a trusted Arab friend or neighbor.
http://www.ccmep.org/2003_articles/Iraq/041103_us_kurds_take_mosul.htm Mosul is about two-thirds Arab. Kurds are the largest ethnic minority, and the city also includes ethnic Turks http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/01/1c3b63c8-059a-46b0-bad0-9031f6115289.html It's an ethnically mixed city. There are Kurds there; they are in the eastern parts. The Arabs who live there have their own dialect. They are related in tribes that straddle the border with Syria," Said says. http://www.uruknet.info/?s1=2&p=7202&s2=15 Most of Mosul's 400,000 Kurds - nearly a quarter of the population - live on the east bank of the River Tigris. http://assyriatimes.com/engine/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3144 Nineva province is 40 percent Sunni Arab, 35 percent Kurdish, 15 percent Shiite. The remaining 10 percent is Christian and Assyrian. It is also the second most populated province, after Baghdad, and 19 parliamentary seats were up for grabs http://auto_sol.tao.ca/node/view/1375?PHPSESSID=cfb7232a47313623ff48113b13e59d0c Some 70 per cent of its population are Arabs, mostly living on the west bank of the river; the rest are Kurds, who live mostly on the east bank.
i know that these are not good figures but all are not based on arabic or kurdish sources but on neutral sources , from journalists and the us-military
and they all say , that the city population is about 50%-70% and 25%-40% kurdish , and a christian and turkish community in it
that is why i wrote that the city is about 60 arabs , the rest are kurds , christians and turkmen
This edit is a clear example of vandalism or at least POV pushing. The user thinks since he is from Mosul as he claims, it makes him automatically a professor of this matter or a prince of the city. He ignores authorative sources such as Encyclopedia of Britannica or Encyclopedia of Orient in the name of mistakes. My response to this guy is that: No one owns no article on wikipedia. Neither a Japanes user owns the Japanese related pages nor a Russian owns the Russian related pages. You are more than welcome to edit article of Duhok BY providing authorative sources not like here by ignoring authorative sources and coming with some random news websites etc... So until my concerns would be gone the article is disputed. Jalalarbil 16:37, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I just took a shot at putting in some notes about the current situation: I'd suggest that it is a land war between Kurds, allied to the U.S., and the Sunni Arabs, and that both sides can be presented sympathetically (and I tried to do so). It would be great if someone could turn these notes into better encyclopediac quality writing, but I decided to follow the suggestion (is it "be bold"?) and insert material where it is obviously needed, as a starting point. Alrivet
I agree with you regarding the quality of these notes, but I have to say this, the people in mosul city are NOT fighting, I am a Muslim Arab and I have lots of friends of the Kurdish ethnic group and lots of friends of the Christian faith, we all live in great harmony now and before, the actions of some few deviated minds don't count for the whole population. I have to say that the radical minds (including Saddam's loyalists), the militiary and the political games (including the Kurdish parties) are the main reasons for increasing friction and troubles among us. I wonder and I don't understand why would someone put these notes ,that tells about a very short period of time in history, in an encyclopedic article about a city that has a history of 8000 years ?!. Prince-of-Mosul
Using Irish Anti-war.org as a source for two paragraphs of pure opinion is not acceptable. Nayt1 02:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)nayt1
come on.... Zazaban 01:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello all. I am going to be making a revision to a portion of this page within the near future for a college project. I am a combat veteran and spent 10 months stationed in Mosul. I plan on revising the portions titled 'Mosul in the 20th Century' and 'Mosul after Saddam'. There are also a couple of pictures of the city itself that I took that I am planning on posting. I also intend on correcting the hint of bias that I detected in the page, for instance, the following quote is in the section 'Mosul in the 20th Century', "discovery and exploitation of oil in the area". Obviously the word 'exploitation' carries with it a negative connotation and makes the accusation that the city has improperly marketed their assets. Also, I plan on making some non-sensitive updates to the record of the U.S. military's operations in the area. The haji hunter 13:0, 5 December, 2007 (UTC)
Good deal. One thing I do know from being a civilian there myself is that east of the river is nearly 100% Kurd. They're not just the majority there, they're just about it. Of course that's maybe 30% of the city.
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I would like to know why the category Assyria is allowed while category Kurdistan is being removed? Is there exact boundaries for Assyria? As far as I remember that's the main reason given for removing the Kurdistan category. Heja Helweda 22:50, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Because Mosul isnt part of Kurdistan! —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArabMexican ( talk • contribs) 16:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
There are an awful lot of redlinks in teh subsections of "Historical Places in Mosul". I'm not sure why there are so many. RJFJR ( talk) 18:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
When the americans came to Mosul soem people cooperated with them for different reasons and different ways. Some worked as translators, others made buisness with them, like working in some american agencies, or taking contracts to the benfit of the troops. These people were of different ethnic groups, some were arabs and some were kurds, some were muslims and others were christians. These people became targets for killing by the militants or the resistance, regardless of thier ethnity or religion, and i still see some kurds living and working in Mosul despite the fact. In Mosul the matter did not turn into ethnic conflict, despite relentless efforts by some to push it down this road, but probably it did in other places like telafar, and such efforts succeeded to a great extent in shaping seperate and pure ethnic and religious areas around Mosul especially in the small towns outside the city, and there is a mutual tendency among these different groups to keep thier areas "clean", like christians in karakoush and shabak in bazwaya "both areas are near to Mosul" Some tribes around Mosul especially in alhadhar "al hatra" and qayara south of Mosul have both police and army people working with the americans and others working against, and in some places you see two brothers one is a policeman and the other is a militant, and they do not kill each other. It is the tendecy of the media to show that the resistance against the americans are majorly between the muslim sunni arabs, and this is true, but not because ethnic or religious reasons, but because the dominant political parties in these areas seek cooperation with the americans to achieve control and power. Many kurds shia and christians think badly of the americans and the political parties and blame them for thier tragidies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.146.171.139 ( talk) 15:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Whoever wrote that is clearly not a native person from Mosul and clearly knows nothing of the Muslawi dialect. The Muslawi dialect is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from Syrian. Palestinian, Lebanese and Jordanian are very similar to Syrian but certainly not the Muslawi dialect. If anything, Muslawi is like standard arabic mixed with turkish. Please give me ONE example of how muslawi is similar to syrian? the gh replacing r is not from syrian, syrians don't speak like that. Whoever wrote the original part is a fool with no knowledge and no business writing about mosul. Infact, I was able to converse in turkey by speaking muslawi. 7hameed7 ( talk) 01:50, 15 November 2008 (UTC)7Hameed7
Existing text says: "It is Iraq's second largest city after Baghdad.[1]"
This eliminates Al Basra as the second largest city, although it has 3.8 million citizens vs. the 1.8 million for Mosul. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.113.8.138 ( talk) 22:05, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
notable persons born in mosul include mar gregorius abdal jaleel the 5 th patriarch of jerusalem who spent most of his later life in kerala india and in his old age lived in north parur kerala continously for a period of 7 to 8 yrs and his mortal remains are interred in the jacobite church in north parur kerala india ,every year on 27 th april as a mark of respect to this holy father [bava] his death anniversary is celebrated on 27 th april and haas been done so without a break for almost 2oo yrs by the people of north parur who loved and respected him and i personally worship and pray to him everyday as my ancestors were polytheists worshipping a mother goddess from the fertile crescent of mesopotamia of which mosul was once the capital yours sincerely prof dr t m saratchandraprasad panicker consultant physician/cardiologist medical director s m memorial superspeciality centre.and president s m memorial global ventures —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.97.55.231 ( talk) 05:14, 6 September 2010 (UTC) one of the most striking qualities of this holy father was that he advocated,and encouraged fathers to get married before being ordained as preists and he felt that many of the irregulaties in the church could be avoided and prevented by advocating such a step, he was conferred sainthood only in 2000 A D as the roman catholic church never recognizes this simple preventive measure and step,personally i feel that all church fathers should be happily married as i have personally found married father much happier,more peaceful, better workers and more committed with less of mental and physical problems and this step should be taken all over the world as it is cheaper to do this rather than getting the pope to travel all over the world to apologise for the sins committed by others as he is not responsible for the errors and mistakes committed by others and this will also prevent conflicts with the various denominations ofchristianity,judaism and most IMPT OF ALL WITH ISLAM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.225.70.251 ( talk) 04:50, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
The majority of its population is now Arab (with Kurdish, Assyrian, Turcoman and Armenian minorities) and controlled by the Kurdistan Regional Government.
Apart from the obvious point that governments control territory, not people, is there any citation that backs up the claim that Mosul is controlled by the Kurdistan Regional Government? Some verified figures to back up claims of majority and minority ethnic groups might be helpful, as well. Skinsmoke ( talk) 18:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
FYI, there is now a Template:Location map Iraq Mosul to locate places and buildings. -- Zoeperkoe ( talk) 16:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
The Hadba is part of the Nouri Mosque (aka Grand Mosque) and not the Ummayad. See.-- Aa2-2004 ( talk) 07:34, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
There is something wrong in this article, not all Christians are Assyrian, Chaldean or Syrians. Have many assyrians but not all are, some are Arab christians. They may be in religion but not necessarily in the ethnicity.My family are from the city of Mosul, go to Chaldean Church to attend but are not Assyrian or Chaldean ethnicity. There are many ethnic Arabs who are Christian or no religion. Therefore it is necessary to make this correction, for example my family can trace our background the various Christian tribes who came from Arabia (taghlib, Manathera and others). I am in fact an Arab who is Christian.Generally Christians living in cities for many years and do not speak Aramaic are the Arabs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.120.252.84 ( talk) 05:00, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Have some Chaldean and Syriac orthodox that are arab christians, in Sa'a if you go to there you see a lot. Some arab christians follow Chaldean and Syriac orthodox in Mosul.-- Salim1187 ( talk) 22:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Ok Rafy, but is clear that have % of arab christians in Mosul. Same assyrians know and say this (in Mosul have arab christians that some follow Chaldean Church, Syriac Orthodox, Syriac Catholic, Roman Church and some protestants (in Sa'a majority that go to Chaldean church are Arab Christians) and we have good relation with assyrians. But you right, before 5 years arab christians from Mosul many moved to Syria, Lebanon and Jordania. -- Salim1187 ( talk) 00:49, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Kurdish Minorities? The Kurds dominate Mosul! - if you dont know, come here and ask the gouverment! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.6.11.87 ( talk) 17:58, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
The article lists a few dates when it snowed in Mosul. I was there in the winter of 2007 and I have pictures of me making a snowman. I'm not sure of the exact date, and I don't know how to source this, but it has certainly snowed more times than the three listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.216.198.46 ( talk) 14:58, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
There is enough information so I spun it into it's own article.
-- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 09:59, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
What this means is that the original Mosul article can trim the History section somewhat. Then the History of Mosul article can go into even more detail. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 11:19, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
If anyone from within the city wishes to update this article but is concerned for their safety you may wish to instead contact a news organisation via Tor as although you can use Tor to read Wikipedia you cannot usually edit according to WP:Tor. Jzlcdh ( talk) 18:46, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Suggest threads older than, say, 365 days are archived periodically as per the date example at /info/en/?search=User:MiszaBot/Archive_HowTo
Any objections? Jzlcdh ( talk) 20:04, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Added archiving older than 700 days. Jzlcdh ( talk) 16:25, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
The date of Parthian conquest (from the Seleucids) is given as 225 BC. This is apparently wrong. In 225 BC, Seleucus II ruled over today's Iraq - a decade later, his brother Antiochus the Great would attack the early Parthian kingdom on the northern fringes of Iran and temporarily reduce it to the state of vassals again. Parthian expansion into Babylonia/Mesopotamia did not take place until the mid-2nd century BC. -- Sponsianus ( talk) 14:51, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
We have a few edits that change the meaning of things but no source change to go along with this. So far the reason for the change is "I know best. This will not fly here. Need sources for the change." As per WP:bold I have reverted this til there are sources for the change/ -- Moxy ( talk) 16:01, 24 March 2015 (UTC) . Will Kymlicka; Eva Pföstl (2014). Multiculturalism and Minority Rights in the Arab World. OUP Oxford. p. 272. ISBN 978-0-19-166262-1.-- Moxy ( talk) 17:20, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
You gonna stop calling other editors 'Assyrian nationalists'...? Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 20:15, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Back to the subject matter please, this is not about perceptions and opinions. This is about fact. The fact is that Chaldeans are not Assyrians no matter how you slice the pie. They are different religions, they are recognized as different nationalities in the Iraqi constitution. Furthermore, the city of Mosul is not home to any significant number of Assyrians but rather was the "centre of Chaldean life." up until the 1950s. Please show me any evidence to dispute these facts. Thanks! Lawrencegoriel ( talk) 21:48, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
-- Lawrencegoriel ( talk) 00:05, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Mosul had a large Christian population, predominantly [ Chaldeans / Assyrians ] and Over 120 [ Assyrian/ native] Iraqi Sisters belonged to this congregation
@ Future Perfect at Sunrise: Need a ruling on this issue please. -- Lawrencegoriel ( talk) 16:04, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
This is not the place to solve the naming problem, naming issue has to be first solved at Assyrian people article rather than modifying every single instance where Assyrian/Syriac/Chaldean occur.-- Kathovo talk 19:41, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 ( talk) 12:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
I am aware that Isis, does not let anyone to leave Mosul to areas outside of their control, with out their permission. Perhaps it would be a good idea to add this in this article as well. Courtier1978 ( talk) 18:56, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
One popular source that has something on the matter is this. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/13/isis-mosul-residents-trapped_n_6862898.html,
My source is from a citizen that he is currently trapped in Mosul. It is possible for people in Mosul to communicate with us, through satellite internet. Courtier1978 ( talk) 19:35, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Also http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2015/03/21/394322708/under-isis-life-in-mosul-takes-a-turn-for-the-bleak I guess it would be safer for you to edit the article rather than someone in Mosul. So I suggest you go ahead and edit. Jzlcdh ( talk) 17:15, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
When I will have the consensus of a few more editors I will try to edit it. ThanksRon1978 (talk) 21:27, 19 April 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Courtier1978 ( talk • contribs)
I have added information on the subject. Ron1978 (talk) 20:17, 2 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Courtier1978 ( talk • contribs)
The 2015 section needs a lot of improvement. We can add information in the human rights and in the women section, if others agree as well.Ron1978 (talk) 10:35, 8 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Courtier1978 ( talk • contribs)
Since the predominantly Shia-Muslim led government of Iraq in Baghdad cut off in June 2015, salaries[4] (that ISIL allegedly exploited by stealing a generous percentage[5]) which it paid to city workers including nurses, doctors,[6] supply and services workers, road repair workers, waste management workers and other infrastructure roles, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.246.180.205 ( talk) 05:20, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Agreed. Fixed awkward sentence Katie alsop ( talk) 08:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
I have made some progress on the valuable inputs in this talk page and continue to seek citations as noted. I have tried to remove some bias. I have re-written the lead page but am stuck on sources for population at the time being. Still working on that so please give me some indulgence. Katie alsop ( talk) 00:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Note: Edited lead to move some content to "History" and edited sentences for brevity. Further work to do. Katie alsop ( talk) 08:59, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
The last paragraph of the lead states:
In June 2014, the terrorist organization ISIL took over the city during the 2014 Northern Iraq offensive.[4][5][6] As of August 2014, the city's new ISIL administration is functional, but power cuts are frequent.[7] According to recently released footage, in Mosul, women are subjugated and religious minorities, especially Shiites, are persecuted.[8]
'terrorist' is NPOV. Replace with salafi-jihadi militant for precision 'power cuts are frequent' is non-sourced and violates NPOV. power cuts are 'frequent' all over iraq because the infrastructure is poor (there were large protests in Baghdad and the south during the summer because the power was out) , whereas this article is trying to imply it is the fault of IS in reality despite the US targeting civilian power infrastructure (possibly a warcrime), IS has repaired it many times and power/electricity is more available in Mosul than the rest of Iraq 'women are subjugated' again unsourced and violates NPOV. if you think Islamic shariah law mandating hijab is 'subjugation', that is merely your opinion and not an encyclopedic fact. Needs to be removed. 'religious minorities are persecuted', against non sourced and violates NPOV as well as a self-contradiction. The article states, and it is a fact, that Shia and Christians have left the city, so how can they be persecuted by IS in Mosul when they no longer reside there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.186.112.132 ( talk) 17:15, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Agreed. Fixed Katie alsop ( talk) 00:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
This is a nonsense! It is CLEARLY NOT NPOV to state ISIL are terrorists, almost ALL governments list them as terrorists, as do the United Nations! As for religious minorities being persecuted, THEY ARE, and there is a WEALTH of evidence for this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.100.25.101 ( talk) 22:24, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
This article suffers badly from recentism (WP:RECENT). Mosul has a history of thousands of years, but almost half of it details just the last ten years of its history, especially the last year and a half. I think the current history (of which there is obviously lots of sources) needs to be summarised, removing a lot of the minor details and the full story of the US invasion and ISIL invasion moved to sub-articles. Ashmoo ( talk) 10:50, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
There has been a lot of edit warring in the last few hours, and a huge chunk of unsourced text was also reinstated. I've gone back to the "last best version", with no opinion regarding whether or not it is the correct version. Please will those who were warring discuss their edits before reinstating them, and please will people desist from adding unsourced information and non-neutral language. Thanks. - Sitush ( talk) 23:09, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
I add kurdish name for this city because 40% kurd live there
This article would be improved by a map of the city. Surely there is some public domain map. Edison ( talk) 18:53, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
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Hello, some of the contributions we made to the article of Mosul was we completely eliminated the prior section of metalwork under the arts section. The paragraph that was there before was plagiarized from Britanicca and lacked any citations. We went in and added three main sub-sections to the metalwork section of arts and provided credible references. The subsections are divided between background, design, and scholarship, we felt, as a collective, that these were some of the most important themes to address but believe that there is still so much to discover within this topic. We also added images of Mosul metalwork, that demonstrated the intricacies of the designs, we felt that as. a visual art it must have some visual examples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by K nava48 ( talk • contribs) 00:42, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
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i have one question about arab population increases in iraq despite the war despite the fac that millions of peoples left iraq every arab city seems to have a population growth of 10% mosul had 1,75 milions in 2002 , and now six years later it has grown to 2,8 millions this 130.000 per year or 7% but how is it possible if people actually flee the city over 200.000 people have fled the city there is no immigration to the city worth of talking of but according to wikipedia mossul and baghdad have doubled their population two of the wars wortst affected cities —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.184.74.135 ( talk) 07:19, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Here is a picture of the Saddam mosque in Mosul... I believe. gren 08:35, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Somebody just changed the percentage of the Arab population of the city of Mosul from 80% to 60%. On which proof is this change based? Could 80.136.90.7 explain why he changed it? And was the percentage based on the census of 2002, as mentioned in the sentence before? Does the person who changed the percentage to 60% have any new information? Until further explanation I think the 80% should be seen as correct. Nightworker 22:29, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
It is very difficult to estimate the percentage of each ethinc group in Iraq, first because of Saddam's biased figures, and second because any census that is going to be done in the near future is even more biased due to the manipulations of different Iraqi political parties that try to sell their own agenda.
But, regarding Mosul where my ancestors lived for ages, I can say that the vast majority of Mosul are Arabs (mostly Muslims but also christians) possibly around 70%, Kurds are the second largest ethnic group, Turkomans come next. This fact has never been an issue till recent years when politicians started to play their own games inorder to gain more control and power over the city.
The language spoken in markets, Schools, University colleges and official buildings is Arabic, unless that the people who speak are all Kurdish or Turkomans.. Mosul is known for it own Arabic Dialect, and there are many families and tribes, mostly of Arabic origins who lived there for ages, everyone can distinguish individuals who are originally from Mosul city ,even if they live elsewhere in Iraq, just by reading their last names.
Due to the fact that Mosul is a big and a major city in the northern part of Iraq, lots of migrations from rural areas and nearby towns were directed toward Mosul (over a long period of time), these migrations which included different ethnic groups led to changes in the demographic and the social nature of the city.
It is true that Saddam's regime didn't allow kurds to hold properties and real-estates (which is unfair I believe) but still most of them were not originally residents of Mosul City, and he had a similar law in Baghdad, where he didn't allow anyone to buy reale-state in Baghdad unless he/she is born their no matter what ethnic group he/she are from.
Still, even if they are all allowed to own their houses and register as Kurds they wont be the Majority in Mosul in any possible way.
Also, the half of the city which resides on the west bank of the tigris river is mostly populated by Arabs, and this part of the city is the oldest and the most heavily populated, the east side where I live is controversial, even though I also believe that it is mostly Arabic, except for some neighborhoods where Kurds are the Majority in them only.
Finally, I don't always trust the US military sources due to the fact that they cooperate with Kurdish political parties and militias and rely on them heavily, while partially ignoring the Arabs in the city. And this probably is one of the reasons for the unstable security situation in Mosul.
Regards, Prince-of-Mosul
the census of 2002 is not right
the iraqi government said that kurds only represent 8% of the population
we have to wait for the next census
but mossul is more diversed then it semms from this
the majority of the population of the eastern bank of the city is kurdish
arabs are only the majority of the population on the west side
the census of 2002 said that only 12% of the population of kerkuk were kurds
these are biased figures , and election results proved that they are wrong, they were made in order to undermine the size of the kurdish population
thére are enough article about the city , from journalist , us-soldiers etc and there are historical data about the ethnic make up of the town and arabs do not represent 80% of the city population
and believe me , nearly 50% of the population live on the eastern side
the reason why kurds were only counted as 8% of the city population , is because kurds were not allowed to buy or sell land , that is why a lot said that they are arabs
and the census counted yezidis and shabaks as nonkurds
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/KO%20News/18-9-03-kurds-buying-property-mosu.html The law back then, when Saddam Hussein's Baath Party ran things, prohibited Kurds from buying property unless they renounced their Kurdish ethnicity and declared themselves Arabs.
So thousands of Kurds solved the problem by buying property in the name of a trusted Arab friend or neighbor.
http://www.ccmep.org/2003_articles/Iraq/041103_us_kurds_take_mosul.htm Mosul is about two-thirds Arab. Kurds are the largest ethnic minority, and the city also includes ethnic Turks http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/01/1c3b63c8-059a-46b0-bad0-9031f6115289.html It's an ethnically mixed city. There are Kurds there; they are in the eastern parts. The Arabs who live there have their own dialect. They are related in tribes that straddle the border with Syria," Said says. http://www.uruknet.info/?s1=2&p=7202&s2=15 Most of Mosul's 400,000 Kurds - nearly a quarter of the population - live on the east bank of the River Tigris. http://assyriatimes.com/engine/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3144 Nineva province is 40 percent Sunni Arab, 35 percent Kurdish, 15 percent Shiite. The remaining 10 percent is Christian and Assyrian. It is also the second most populated province, after Baghdad, and 19 parliamentary seats were up for grabs http://auto_sol.tao.ca/node/view/1375?PHPSESSID=cfb7232a47313623ff48113b13e59d0c Some 70 per cent of its population are Arabs, mostly living on the west bank of the river; the rest are Kurds, who live mostly on the east bank.
i know that these are not good figures but all are not based on arabic or kurdish sources but on neutral sources , from journalists and the us-military
and they all say , that the city population is about 50%-70% and 25%-40% kurdish , and a christian and turkish community in it
that is why i wrote that the city is about 60 arabs , the rest are kurds , christians and turkmen
This edit is a clear example of vandalism or at least POV pushing. The user thinks since he is from Mosul as he claims, it makes him automatically a professor of this matter or a prince of the city. He ignores authorative sources such as Encyclopedia of Britannica or Encyclopedia of Orient in the name of mistakes. My response to this guy is that: No one owns no article on wikipedia. Neither a Japanes user owns the Japanese related pages nor a Russian owns the Russian related pages. You are more than welcome to edit article of Duhok BY providing authorative sources not like here by ignoring authorative sources and coming with some random news websites etc... So until my concerns would be gone the article is disputed. Jalalarbil 16:37, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I just took a shot at putting in some notes about the current situation: I'd suggest that it is a land war between Kurds, allied to the U.S., and the Sunni Arabs, and that both sides can be presented sympathetically (and I tried to do so). It would be great if someone could turn these notes into better encyclopediac quality writing, but I decided to follow the suggestion (is it "be bold"?) and insert material where it is obviously needed, as a starting point. Alrivet
I agree with you regarding the quality of these notes, but I have to say this, the people in mosul city are NOT fighting, I am a Muslim Arab and I have lots of friends of the Kurdish ethnic group and lots of friends of the Christian faith, we all live in great harmony now and before, the actions of some few deviated minds don't count for the whole population. I have to say that the radical minds (including Saddam's loyalists), the militiary and the political games (including the Kurdish parties) are the main reasons for increasing friction and troubles among us. I wonder and I don't understand why would someone put these notes ,that tells about a very short period of time in history, in an encyclopedic article about a city that has a history of 8000 years ?!. Prince-of-Mosul
Using Irish Anti-war.org as a source for two paragraphs of pure opinion is not acceptable. Nayt1 02:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)nayt1
come on.... Zazaban 01:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello all. I am going to be making a revision to a portion of this page within the near future for a college project. I am a combat veteran and spent 10 months stationed in Mosul. I plan on revising the portions titled 'Mosul in the 20th Century' and 'Mosul after Saddam'. There are also a couple of pictures of the city itself that I took that I am planning on posting. I also intend on correcting the hint of bias that I detected in the page, for instance, the following quote is in the section 'Mosul in the 20th Century', "discovery and exploitation of oil in the area". Obviously the word 'exploitation' carries with it a negative connotation and makes the accusation that the city has improperly marketed their assets. Also, I plan on making some non-sensitive updates to the record of the U.S. military's operations in the area. The haji hunter 13:0, 5 December, 2007 (UTC)
Good deal. One thing I do know from being a civilian there myself is that east of the river is nearly 100% Kurd. They're not just the majority there, they're just about it. Of course that's maybe 30% of the city.
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I would like to know why the category Assyria is allowed while category Kurdistan is being removed? Is there exact boundaries for Assyria? As far as I remember that's the main reason given for removing the Kurdistan category. Heja Helweda 22:50, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Because Mosul isnt part of Kurdistan! —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArabMexican ( talk • contribs) 16:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
There are an awful lot of redlinks in teh subsections of "Historical Places in Mosul". I'm not sure why there are so many. RJFJR ( talk) 18:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
When the americans came to Mosul soem people cooperated with them for different reasons and different ways. Some worked as translators, others made buisness with them, like working in some american agencies, or taking contracts to the benfit of the troops. These people were of different ethnic groups, some were arabs and some were kurds, some were muslims and others were christians. These people became targets for killing by the militants or the resistance, regardless of thier ethnity or religion, and i still see some kurds living and working in Mosul despite the fact. In Mosul the matter did not turn into ethnic conflict, despite relentless efforts by some to push it down this road, but probably it did in other places like telafar, and such efforts succeeded to a great extent in shaping seperate and pure ethnic and religious areas around Mosul especially in the small towns outside the city, and there is a mutual tendency among these different groups to keep thier areas "clean", like christians in karakoush and shabak in bazwaya "both areas are near to Mosul" Some tribes around Mosul especially in alhadhar "al hatra" and qayara south of Mosul have both police and army people working with the americans and others working against, and in some places you see two brothers one is a policeman and the other is a militant, and they do not kill each other. It is the tendecy of the media to show that the resistance against the americans are majorly between the muslim sunni arabs, and this is true, but not because ethnic or religious reasons, but because the dominant political parties in these areas seek cooperation with the americans to achieve control and power. Many kurds shia and christians think badly of the americans and the political parties and blame them for thier tragidies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.146.171.139 ( talk) 15:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Whoever wrote that is clearly not a native person from Mosul and clearly knows nothing of the Muslawi dialect. The Muslawi dialect is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from Syrian. Palestinian, Lebanese and Jordanian are very similar to Syrian but certainly not the Muslawi dialect. If anything, Muslawi is like standard arabic mixed with turkish. Please give me ONE example of how muslawi is similar to syrian? the gh replacing r is not from syrian, syrians don't speak like that. Whoever wrote the original part is a fool with no knowledge and no business writing about mosul. Infact, I was able to converse in turkey by speaking muslawi. 7hameed7 ( talk) 01:50, 15 November 2008 (UTC)7Hameed7
Existing text says: "It is Iraq's second largest city after Baghdad.[1]"
This eliminates Al Basra as the second largest city, although it has 3.8 million citizens vs. the 1.8 million for Mosul. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.113.8.138 ( talk) 22:05, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
notable persons born in mosul include mar gregorius abdal jaleel the 5 th patriarch of jerusalem who spent most of his later life in kerala india and in his old age lived in north parur kerala continously for a period of 7 to 8 yrs and his mortal remains are interred in the jacobite church in north parur kerala india ,every year on 27 th april as a mark of respect to this holy father [bava] his death anniversary is celebrated on 27 th april and haas been done so without a break for almost 2oo yrs by the people of north parur who loved and respected him and i personally worship and pray to him everyday as my ancestors were polytheists worshipping a mother goddess from the fertile crescent of mesopotamia of which mosul was once the capital yours sincerely prof dr t m saratchandraprasad panicker consultant physician/cardiologist medical director s m memorial superspeciality centre.and president s m memorial global ventures —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.97.55.231 ( talk) 05:14, 6 September 2010 (UTC) one of the most striking qualities of this holy father was that he advocated,and encouraged fathers to get married before being ordained as preists and he felt that many of the irregulaties in the church could be avoided and prevented by advocating such a step, he was conferred sainthood only in 2000 A D as the roman catholic church never recognizes this simple preventive measure and step,personally i feel that all church fathers should be happily married as i have personally found married father much happier,more peaceful, better workers and more committed with less of mental and physical problems and this step should be taken all over the world as it is cheaper to do this rather than getting the pope to travel all over the world to apologise for the sins committed by others as he is not responsible for the errors and mistakes committed by others and this will also prevent conflicts with the various denominations ofchristianity,judaism and most IMPT OF ALL WITH ISLAM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.225.70.251 ( talk) 04:50, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
The majority of its population is now Arab (with Kurdish, Assyrian, Turcoman and Armenian minorities) and controlled by the Kurdistan Regional Government.
Apart from the obvious point that governments control territory, not people, is there any citation that backs up the claim that Mosul is controlled by the Kurdistan Regional Government? Some verified figures to back up claims of majority and minority ethnic groups might be helpful, as well. Skinsmoke ( talk) 18:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
FYI, there is now a Template:Location map Iraq Mosul to locate places and buildings. -- Zoeperkoe ( talk) 16:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
The Hadba is part of the Nouri Mosque (aka Grand Mosque) and not the Ummayad. See.-- Aa2-2004 ( talk) 07:34, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
There is something wrong in this article, not all Christians are Assyrian, Chaldean or Syrians. Have many assyrians but not all are, some are Arab christians. They may be in religion but not necessarily in the ethnicity.My family are from the city of Mosul, go to Chaldean Church to attend but are not Assyrian or Chaldean ethnicity. There are many ethnic Arabs who are Christian or no religion. Therefore it is necessary to make this correction, for example my family can trace our background the various Christian tribes who came from Arabia (taghlib, Manathera and others). I am in fact an Arab who is Christian.Generally Christians living in cities for many years and do not speak Aramaic are the Arabs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.120.252.84 ( talk) 05:00, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Have some Chaldean and Syriac orthodox that are arab christians, in Sa'a if you go to there you see a lot. Some arab christians follow Chaldean and Syriac orthodox in Mosul.-- Salim1187 ( talk) 22:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Ok Rafy, but is clear that have % of arab christians in Mosul. Same assyrians know and say this (in Mosul have arab christians that some follow Chaldean Church, Syriac Orthodox, Syriac Catholic, Roman Church and some protestants (in Sa'a majority that go to Chaldean church are Arab Christians) and we have good relation with assyrians. But you right, before 5 years arab christians from Mosul many moved to Syria, Lebanon and Jordania. -- Salim1187 ( talk) 00:49, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Kurdish Minorities? The Kurds dominate Mosul! - if you dont know, come here and ask the gouverment! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.6.11.87 ( talk) 17:58, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
The article lists a few dates when it snowed in Mosul. I was there in the winter of 2007 and I have pictures of me making a snowman. I'm not sure of the exact date, and I don't know how to source this, but it has certainly snowed more times than the three listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.216.198.46 ( talk) 14:58, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
There is enough information so I spun it into it's own article.
-- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 09:59, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
What this means is that the original Mosul article can trim the History section somewhat. Then the History of Mosul article can go into even more detail. -- Harizotoh9 ( talk) 11:19, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
If anyone from within the city wishes to update this article but is concerned for their safety you may wish to instead contact a news organisation via Tor as although you can use Tor to read Wikipedia you cannot usually edit according to WP:Tor. Jzlcdh ( talk) 18:46, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Suggest threads older than, say, 365 days are archived periodically as per the date example at /info/en/?search=User:MiszaBot/Archive_HowTo
Any objections? Jzlcdh ( talk) 20:04, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Added archiving older than 700 days. Jzlcdh ( talk) 16:25, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
The date of Parthian conquest (from the Seleucids) is given as 225 BC. This is apparently wrong. In 225 BC, Seleucus II ruled over today's Iraq - a decade later, his brother Antiochus the Great would attack the early Parthian kingdom on the northern fringes of Iran and temporarily reduce it to the state of vassals again. Parthian expansion into Babylonia/Mesopotamia did not take place until the mid-2nd century BC. -- Sponsianus ( talk) 14:51, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
We have a few edits that change the meaning of things but no source change to go along with this. So far the reason for the change is "I know best. This will not fly here. Need sources for the change." As per WP:bold I have reverted this til there are sources for the change/ -- Moxy ( talk) 16:01, 24 March 2015 (UTC) . Will Kymlicka; Eva Pföstl (2014). Multiculturalism and Minority Rights in the Arab World. OUP Oxford. p. 272. ISBN 978-0-19-166262-1.-- Moxy ( talk) 17:20, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
You gonna stop calling other editors 'Assyrian nationalists'...? Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 20:15, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Back to the subject matter please, this is not about perceptions and opinions. This is about fact. The fact is that Chaldeans are not Assyrians no matter how you slice the pie. They are different religions, they are recognized as different nationalities in the Iraqi constitution. Furthermore, the city of Mosul is not home to any significant number of Assyrians but rather was the "centre of Chaldean life." up until the 1950s. Please show me any evidence to dispute these facts. Thanks! Lawrencegoriel ( talk) 21:48, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
-- Lawrencegoriel ( talk) 00:05, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Mosul had a large Christian population, predominantly [ Chaldeans / Assyrians ] and Over 120 [ Assyrian/ native] Iraqi Sisters belonged to this congregation
@ Future Perfect at Sunrise: Need a ruling on this issue please. -- Lawrencegoriel ( talk) 16:04, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
This is not the place to solve the naming problem, naming issue has to be first solved at Assyrian people article rather than modifying every single instance where Assyrian/Syriac/Chaldean occur.-- Kathovo talk 19:41, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 ( talk) 12:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
I am aware that Isis, does not let anyone to leave Mosul to areas outside of their control, with out their permission. Perhaps it would be a good idea to add this in this article as well. Courtier1978 ( talk) 18:56, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
One popular source that has something on the matter is this. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/13/isis-mosul-residents-trapped_n_6862898.html,
My source is from a citizen that he is currently trapped in Mosul. It is possible for people in Mosul to communicate with us, through satellite internet. Courtier1978 ( talk) 19:35, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Also http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2015/03/21/394322708/under-isis-life-in-mosul-takes-a-turn-for-the-bleak I guess it would be safer for you to edit the article rather than someone in Mosul. So I suggest you go ahead and edit. Jzlcdh ( talk) 17:15, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
When I will have the consensus of a few more editors I will try to edit it. ThanksRon1978 (talk) 21:27, 19 April 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Courtier1978 ( talk • contribs)
I have added information on the subject. Ron1978 (talk) 20:17, 2 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Courtier1978 ( talk • contribs)
The 2015 section needs a lot of improvement. We can add information in the human rights and in the women section, if others agree as well.Ron1978 (talk) 10:35, 8 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Courtier1978 ( talk • contribs)
Since the predominantly Shia-Muslim led government of Iraq in Baghdad cut off in June 2015, salaries[4] (that ISIL allegedly exploited by stealing a generous percentage[5]) which it paid to city workers including nurses, doctors,[6] supply and services workers, road repair workers, waste management workers and other infrastructure roles, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.246.180.205 ( talk) 05:20, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Agreed. Fixed awkward sentence Katie alsop ( talk) 08:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
I have made some progress on the valuable inputs in this talk page and continue to seek citations as noted. I have tried to remove some bias. I have re-written the lead page but am stuck on sources for population at the time being. Still working on that so please give me some indulgence. Katie alsop ( talk) 00:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Note: Edited lead to move some content to "History" and edited sentences for brevity. Further work to do. Katie alsop ( talk) 08:59, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
The last paragraph of the lead states:
In June 2014, the terrorist organization ISIL took over the city during the 2014 Northern Iraq offensive.[4][5][6] As of August 2014, the city's new ISIL administration is functional, but power cuts are frequent.[7] According to recently released footage, in Mosul, women are subjugated and religious minorities, especially Shiites, are persecuted.[8]
'terrorist' is NPOV. Replace with salafi-jihadi militant for precision 'power cuts are frequent' is non-sourced and violates NPOV. power cuts are 'frequent' all over iraq because the infrastructure is poor (there were large protests in Baghdad and the south during the summer because the power was out) , whereas this article is trying to imply it is the fault of IS in reality despite the US targeting civilian power infrastructure (possibly a warcrime), IS has repaired it many times and power/electricity is more available in Mosul than the rest of Iraq 'women are subjugated' again unsourced and violates NPOV. if you think Islamic shariah law mandating hijab is 'subjugation', that is merely your opinion and not an encyclopedic fact. Needs to be removed. 'religious minorities are persecuted', against non sourced and violates NPOV as well as a self-contradiction. The article states, and it is a fact, that Shia and Christians have left the city, so how can they be persecuted by IS in Mosul when they no longer reside there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.186.112.132 ( talk) 17:15, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Agreed. Fixed Katie alsop ( talk) 00:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
This is a nonsense! It is CLEARLY NOT NPOV to state ISIL are terrorists, almost ALL governments list them as terrorists, as do the United Nations! As for religious minorities being persecuted, THEY ARE, and there is a WEALTH of evidence for this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.100.25.101 ( talk) 22:24, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
This article suffers badly from recentism (WP:RECENT). Mosul has a history of thousands of years, but almost half of it details just the last ten years of its history, especially the last year and a half. I think the current history (of which there is obviously lots of sources) needs to be summarised, removing a lot of the minor details and the full story of the US invasion and ISIL invasion moved to sub-articles. Ashmoo ( talk) 10:50, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
There has been a lot of edit warring in the last few hours, and a huge chunk of unsourced text was also reinstated. I've gone back to the "last best version", with no opinion regarding whether or not it is the correct version. Please will those who were warring discuss their edits before reinstating them, and please will people desist from adding unsourced information and non-neutral language. Thanks. - Sitush ( talk) 23:09, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
I add kurdish name for this city because 40% kurd live there
This article would be improved by a map of the city. Surely there is some public domain map. Edison ( talk) 18:53, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
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Hello, some of the contributions we made to the article of Mosul was we completely eliminated the prior section of metalwork under the arts section. The paragraph that was there before was plagiarized from Britanicca and lacked any citations. We went in and added three main sub-sections to the metalwork section of arts and provided credible references. The subsections are divided between background, design, and scholarship, we felt, as a collective, that these were some of the most important themes to address but believe that there is still so much to discover within this topic. We also added images of Mosul metalwork, that demonstrated the intricacies of the designs, we felt that as. a visual art it must have some visual examples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by K nava48 ( talk • contribs) 00:42, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
why off topic and detailed needs removal to its own article.... History of metallurgy in Mosul-- Moxy 🍁 07:24, 10 December 2019 (UTC)