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this sentence, ' He is the only well-known sculptor to have seen action in the Civil War.[3]. We could quibble all day about what "well-known" might mean but I would like to offer Levi Scofield as another Civil war vet who went on to become a "well known" sculptor. I can pretty confidently state that if you went out and asked the first 1,000 people you meet no one would know who either of these men are. The fact that this claim is referenced does not mean that it has to be included in the article. Even reference worthy folks make mistakes, Do you have an opinion? Carptrash ( talk) 17:41, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
I thought Wikipedia was supposed to be an unbiased place to receive information. In fact, I recently donated to Wikipedia as I do every year because I use it often and felt it was A good place to receive information, rather than the slanted things that we see so often today in the news or in the news articles. I read this morning in the news about a statue being removed from the Arlington cemetery and wanted to know more about the history, and why it was being removed, and also about the sculptor who created it. This definitely wasn't the place for me to read about it because I've never read a more biased article on Wikipedia before. Perhaps you have changed your History of being an unbiased place to receive knowledge? If so, kindly, let your readers know so we can seek information that is historically correct at other locations. Thanks for all the work you do, but I would say this article was very disappointing. Hartlady68 ( talk) 15:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
He wrote in his memoirs, "Though he would come to fight for the South, Ezekiel says he didn’t believe in slavery—“In reality no one in the South would have raised an arm to fight for slavery. It was an evil that we had inherited and that we wanted to get rid of,” he said. “Our struggle…was simply a constitutional one based upon…state’s rights and especially on free trade and no tariff.” Source: https://www.historynet.com/moses-ezekiel-hidden-plain-sight/ Odin1919 ( talk) 19:11, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Ezekiel later explained in his memoirs that he didn't espouse slavery: "In reality no one in the South would have raised an arm to fight for slavery. It was an evil that we had inherited and that we wanted to get rid of. Our struggle…was simply a constitutional one based upon…state’s rights and especially on free trade and no tariff." [1]
@ Horse Eye's Back: Regarding the reliability of the Sue Eisenfeld article, it is already cited multiple times in the article, having originally been printed in Civil War Times Magazine. I think we can call the source reliable, but the use of the quote remains of dubious value. WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 21:00, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
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I don't have any problem with you quoting Ezakiel's Memoirs as long as you are prepared to have someone, if it is in order, coming along and pointing out (with a reference) that this is typical Lost Cause reasoning. Carptrash ( talk) 18:04, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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this sentence, ' He is the only well-known sculptor to have seen action in the Civil War.[3]. We could quibble all day about what "well-known" might mean but I would like to offer Levi Scofield as another Civil war vet who went on to become a "well known" sculptor. I can pretty confidently state that if you went out and asked the first 1,000 people you meet no one would know who either of these men are. The fact that this claim is referenced does not mean that it has to be included in the article. Even reference worthy folks make mistakes, Do you have an opinion? Carptrash ( talk) 17:41, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
I thought Wikipedia was supposed to be an unbiased place to receive information. In fact, I recently donated to Wikipedia as I do every year because I use it often and felt it was A good place to receive information, rather than the slanted things that we see so often today in the news or in the news articles. I read this morning in the news about a statue being removed from the Arlington cemetery and wanted to know more about the history, and why it was being removed, and also about the sculptor who created it. This definitely wasn't the place for me to read about it because I've never read a more biased article on Wikipedia before. Perhaps you have changed your History of being an unbiased place to receive knowledge? If so, kindly, let your readers know so we can seek information that is historically correct at other locations. Thanks for all the work you do, but I would say this article was very disappointing. Hartlady68 ( talk) 15:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
He wrote in his memoirs, "Though he would come to fight for the South, Ezekiel says he didn’t believe in slavery—“In reality no one in the South would have raised an arm to fight for slavery. It was an evil that we had inherited and that we wanted to get rid of,” he said. “Our struggle…was simply a constitutional one based upon…state’s rights and especially on free trade and no tariff.” Source: https://www.historynet.com/moses-ezekiel-hidden-plain-sight/ Odin1919 ( talk) 19:11, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Ezekiel later explained in his memoirs that he didn't espouse slavery: "In reality no one in the South would have raised an arm to fight for slavery. It was an evil that we had inherited and that we wanted to get rid of. Our struggle…was simply a constitutional one based upon…state’s rights and especially on free trade and no tariff." [1]
@ Horse Eye's Back: Regarding the reliability of the Sue Eisenfeld article, it is already cited multiple times in the article, having originally been printed in Civil War Times Magazine. I think we can call the source reliable, but the use of the quote remains of dubious value. WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 21:00, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
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I don't have any problem with you quoting Ezakiel's Memoirs as long as you are prepared to have someone, if it is in order, coming along and pointing out (with a reference) that this is typical Lost Cause reasoning. Carptrash ( talk) 18:04, 13 January 2024 (UTC)