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Did you know... that Moral, part of a loose trilogy of feminist films directed by
Marilou Diaz-Abaya, was initially dismissed by critics but is now regarded as one of the best Filipino films ever made?
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 06:12, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Created by
What a pro. (
talk). Self-nominated at 16:44, 9 June 2020 (UTC).reply
@
What a pro.: New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Earwig doesn't throw any issues and the article looks fine. The hook, while backed up by the source and present, is very, very clunky and demands a total rewrite. I'm gonna throw a suggestion at you:
Raymie (
t •
c) 03:20, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
ALT1: that
Lorna Tolentino credited her role in 1982 film Moral for expanding her reputation beyond "sexy" movies?[1]
As a Filipino myself I'm not sure if ALT1 will work since she obviously isn't well-known outside the Philippines. Perhaps adding "Filipino actress" before her name might help things but otherwise a different hook may be needed (or perhaps a rewording of ALT0).
Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew 00:34, 10 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Narutolovehinata5: Hi, I came by to help move this along. I edited the article and it reads well and is interesting. Here are some alts:
ALT2: ... that Moral, part of a loose trilogy of feminist films directed by
Marilou Diaz-Abaya, was initially dismissed by critics but is now regarded as one of the best Filipino films ever made?
I'd be fine with any of those, especially ALT2 and ALT3. ALT2 and ALT4 seem to be fine sourcing-wise. I am trying to find the citation that backs up ALT3 as it is not invoked in the right place.
Narutolovehinata5, since I do not read Tagalog, is it this passage from the Plaridel source?
Raymie (
t •
c) 19:13, 14 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Hindi ako natakot na tumalakay ng mga subject na taboo o kaya ay bihirang i-tackle lalo na sa pelikula gaya ng homosexuality, marital rape, parricide, at iba pa. Pumasok ako sa iba’t ibang larangan ng pagsusulat, mula maikling kuwento, kanta, komiks hanggang journalism, theater, at pelikula. Anong masama kung magkamali? Anuman ang tagumpay na narating ko ngayon, nakatuntong ako sa isang bundok ng pagkakamali.
I just checked the source and the quote is indeed there (found with a quick use of CTRL+F). If a translation is needed, it reads something like "I'm not afraid to tackle taboo or rarely-tackled subjects especially in films, such as homosexuality, marital rape, parricide, and others. I entered into different fields of writing: from short stories, songs, and comics, to journalism, theater, and others. What's wrong with making mistakes? Whatever triumphs I have reached now, I am on top of a mountain of mistakes". As for the hooks, I agree that ALT2 and ALT3 are the best and most broadly-appealing hooks, with a slight preference for ALT2.
Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew 23:13, 14 July 2020 (UTC)reply
I'm good with ALT2, ALT3 or ALT4, in that order.
Raymie (
t •
c) 01:06, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Thank you. ALT2 is also my favorite.
Yoninah (
talk) 09:50, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
A fact from Moral (1982 film) appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 July 2020 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Moral, part of a loose trilogy of feminist films directed by
Marilou Diaz-Abaya, was initially dismissed by critics but is now regarded as one of the best Filipino films ever made?
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Feminism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Feminism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FeminismWikipedia:WikiProject FeminismTemplate:WikiProject FeminismFeminism articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Tambayan Philippines, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics related to the
Philippines on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Tambayan PhilippinesWikipedia:WikiProject Tambayan PhilippinesTemplate:WikiProject Tambayan PhilippinesPhilippine-related articles
This article has been rated as Low-importance on the
importance scale.
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 06:12, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Created by
What a pro. (
talk). Self-nominated at 16:44, 9 June 2020 (UTC).reply
@
What a pro.: New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Earwig doesn't throw any issues and the article looks fine. The hook, while backed up by the source and present, is very, very clunky and demands a total rewrite. I'm gonna throw a suggestion at you:
Raymie (
t •
c) 03:20, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
ALT1: that
Lorna Tolentino credited her role in 1982 film Moral for expanding her reputation beyond "sexy" movies?[1]
As a Filipino myself I'm not sure if ALT1 will work since she obviously isn't well-known outside the Philippines. Perhaps adding "Filipino actress" before her name might help things but otherwise a different hook may be needed (or perhaps a rewording of ALT0).
Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew 00:34, 10 July 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Narutolovehinata5: Hi, I came by to help move this along. I edited the article and it reads well and is interesting. Here are some alts:
ALT2: ... that Moral, part of a loose trilogy of feminist films directed by
Marilou Diaz-Abaya, was initially dismissed by critics but is now regarded as one of the best Filipino films ever made?
I'd be fine with any of those, especially ALT2 and ALT3. ALT2 and ALT4 seem to be fine sourcing-wise. I am trying to find the citation that backs up ALT3 as it is not invoked in the right place.
Narutolovehinata5, since I do not read Tagalog, is it this passage from the Plaridel source?
Raymie (
t •
c) 19:13, 14 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Hindi ako natakot na tumalakay ng mga subject na taboo o kaya ay bihirang i-tackle lalo na sa pelikula gaya ng homosexuality, marital rape, parricide, at iba pa. Pumasok ako sa iba’t ibang larangan ng pagsusulat, mula maikling kuwento, kanta, komiks hanggang journalism, theater, at pelikula. Anong masama kung magkamali? Anuman ang tagumpay na narating ko ngayon, nakatuntong ako sa isang bundok ng pagkakamali.
I just checked the source and the quote is indeed there (found with a quick use of CTRL+F). If a translation is needed, it reads something like "I'm not afraid to tackle taboo or rarely-tackled subjects especially in films, such as homosexuality, marital rape, parricide, and others. I entered into different fields of writing: from short stories, songs, and comics, to journalism, theater, and others. What's wrong with making mistakes? Whatever triumphs I have reached now, I am on top of a mountain of mistakes". As for the hooks, I agree that ALT2 and ALT3 are the best and most broadly-appealing hooks, with a slight preference for ALT2.
Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew 23:13, 14 July 2020 (UTC)reply
I'm good with ALT2, ALT3 or ALT4, in that order.
Raymie (
t •
c) 01:06, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Thank you. ALT2 is also my favorite.
Yoninah (
talk) 09:50, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply