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As for the proposal to merge this with Modern Languages, at the moment they're on two different topics. This article is on modern languages as a linguistic concept, the other is about modern languages as an academic discipline. Still, the two should probably be merged, if only because people looking for information on one of these topics might otherwise wind up at the wrong page. I suggest that they merged here, to Modern language, because Wikipedia style is to have lowercase and singular form. -- Angr/ tɔk tə mi 17:29, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Ironically, (on the same day), I have suggested a merge from Modern language to Modern Languages. Though this is not you're way of doing, (you would prefer it to be the other way around). Thanks, -- Kilo-Lima 17:46, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
For the merge
Do not merge
Abstain
Comment(s)
I've merged into Modern Languages since it had more content to work with. If we prefer the singular form for Manual of Style reasons, then let's get an admin to delete the redirect here (on Modern Language) and we can do a move. Jamie 09:23, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
This move should probably have been done with the "move" function (get a admin to delete the redirect first), rather doing a copy-and-paste over the redirect... in order to preserve the article history. Jamie 05:27, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
I don't understand this section. Most studied where? I cannot believe that Dutch or (modern) Greek would ever appear in any 'most studied' list and certainly not in the Top 12 which we have here. Some clarification, rectification and sourcing would be appreciated.
Incidentally, I have altered the reference to KS4 in the UK section: the government decided two years ago that pupils could give up MFL at the end of KS3, with the result that entries for GCSE in languages plummetted this year. Emeraude 12:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
The following sentence was removed from the section about auxilliary languages:
I think this is a useful addition, in that it clarifies any doubts the reader may have, and adds useful terminology and links. Could the reasons for its removal be explained? BrainyBabe 09:11, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
As long as texts are written in Latin, as long as books are translated into languages and as long as those who love Latin itself as a vivid, beautiful and effective language(potentially every Latin learner - if there was not the stupid pure use of the analytic method, that is not suitable to all of us, in Latin classes!) still keep talking in voice and writing - How can you call it dead? Old Greek might be near to extinction - but it, too, can be brought to life again! Though they are or won't be, respectively, exactly the same languages as in their beginnings as "fixed languages" - but who cares?
And, as for the learning(not cramming) method suitable to reduced time and for real "Spracherwerb", there is -among others- an effective possibility is at hand, that needs only a tiny but crucial addition: the "Birkenbihl-method for language learning" (‡ cramming in vocabulary and grammar rules without understanding) (and is for free!) Ūnus ē Latīnīs novīs ( talk) 02:37, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
1. The lead begins by saying
But e.g. Latin is still in use, by the Catholic Church. Is it really a "modern language"? The problem here is that the lead sentence's wording "in use" is too vague, and needs to be clarified by being made more specific.
2. Living language redirects here, but the term does not appear in the article. Is it a synonym of "modern language"? According to dead language, the latter is one with no native speakers, so presumably a living language is one with native speakers. E.g. Latin does not fall into that category. So if Latin is a modern language because it is in use, then "living language" is not synonymous with "modern language". In any event, since it redirects here, "living language" needs to be mentioned in boldface and defined in the lead.. Loraof ( talk) 17:54, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
I've added "living language" to the lead. Its relation to "modern language" still needs to be explained, and "currently in use" still needs to be clarified. Loraof ( talk) 22:37, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Modern language was copied or moved into Language education by region with this edit on 28 December 2023. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
As for the proposal to merge this with Modern Languages, at the moment they're on two different topics. This article is on modern languages as a linguistic concept, the other is about modern languages as an academic discipline. Still, the two should probably be merged, if only because people looking for information on one of these topics might otherwise wind up at the wrong page. I suggest that they merged here, to Modern language, because Wikipedia style is to have lowercase and singular form. -- Angr/ tɔk tə mi 17:29, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Ironically, (on the same day), I have suggested a merge from Modern language to Modern Languages. Though this is not you're way of doing, (you would prefer it to be the other way around). Thanks, -- Kilo-Lima 17:46, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
For the merge
Do not merge
Abstain
Comment(s)
I've merged into Modern Languages since it had more content to work with. If we prefer the singular form for Manual of Style reasons, then let's get an admin to delete the redirect here (on Modern Language) and we can do a move. Jamie 09:23, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
This move should probably have been done with the "move" function (get a admin to delete the redirect first), rather doing a copy-and-paste over the redirect... in order to preserve the article history. Jamie 05:27, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
I don't understand this section. Most studied where? I cannot believe that Dutch or (modern) Greek would ever appear in any 'most studied' list and certainly not in the Top 12 which we have here. Some clarification, rectification and sourcing would be appreciated.
Incidentally, I have altered the reference to KS4 in the UK section: the government decided two years ago that pupils could give up MFL at the end of KS3, with the result that entries for GCSE in languages plummetted this year. Emeraude 12:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
The following sentence was removed from the section about auxilliary languages:
I think this is a useful addition, in that it clarifies any doubts the reader may have, and adds useful terminology and links. Could the reasons for its removal be explained? BrainyBabe 09:11, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
As long as texts are written in Latin, as long as books are translated into languages and as long as those who love Latin itself as a vivid, beautiful and effective language(potentially every Latin learner - if there was not the stupid pure use of the analytic method, that is not suitable to all of us, in Latin classes!) still keep talking in voice and writing - How can you call it dead? Old Greek might be near to extinction - but it, too, can be brought to life again! Though they are or won't be, respectively, exactly the same languages as in their beginnings as "fixed languages" - but who cares?
And, as for the learning(not cramming) method suitable to reduced time and for real "Spracherwerb", there is -among others- an effective possibility is at hand, that needs only a tiny but crucial addition: the "Birkenbihl-method for language learning" (‡ cramming in vocabulary and grammar rules without understanding) (and is for free!) Ūnus ē Latīnīs novīs ( talk) 02:37, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
1. The lead begins by saying
But e.g. Latin is still in use, by the Catholic Church. Is it really a "modern language"? The problem here is that the lead sentence's wording "in use" is too vague, and needs to be clarified by being made more specific.
2. Living language redirects here, but the term does not appear in the article. Is it a synonym of "modern language"? According to dead language, the latter is one with no native speakers, so presumably a living language is one with native speakers. E.g. Latin does not fall into that category. So if Latin is a modern language because it is in use, then "living language" is not synonymous with "modern language". In any event, since it redirects here, "living language" needs to be mentioned in boldface and defined in the lead.. Loraof ( talk) 17:54, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
I've added "living language" to the lead. Its relation to "modern language" still needs to be explained, and "currently in use" still needs to be clarified. Loraof ( talk) 22:37, 5 January 2017 (UTC)