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Hi.
I noticed that there are 2 occurrences of the same typo/error. You typed "modeless" instead of "modaless" - the opposite programming design for GUI. It is in the last paragraph of the document.
I would appreciate if you fix it.
10x.
![]() | On 20 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Modal (computing). The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
The modality of a window, whether it forces interaction by disabling other interaction, is one attribute of a window. This is similar to whether a window is full screen or contains a title bar. This attribute does not make a window an inherently different graphical control element and any graphical control element could have modality. A drop down could similarly disable all other functionality until a choice is selected. There wouldn't be an article for 'modal down down' or 'full screen window'. Going forward, should this article be merged with window, popover, or mode? Nnivi ( talk) 14:41, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
I though a modal window indeed interrupt main windows workflow and wait for user response (maybe some times, like the 'Quit window: Save - Delete - Cancel" window. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.226.253.162 ( talk) 00:57, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
As a programmer, I have always known this term is "modaless" as opposed to "modal". You can check anywhere in the printed books as well as known sites such as Codeguru, etc. It is definitely Modaless. If you don't agree, I would suggest that at least it will be added between parentheses. Thanks.
Thanks for the clarification. I'll keep that in mind.
Clearly this entire article was written by an anti-modal activist, for the sole purpose of demonstrating the overuse and inadequacy of modal windows. -- 64.149.36.43 ( talk) 21:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Are there still doubts about the current neutrality status? If not, I will remove the NPOV tag. Diego ( talk) 10:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I've added a NPOV tag to this article. Several editors have expressed concerns over this article, and I tend to agree with them. The biggest concern I have is that the overall tone of the article is adversarial. All aspects of the subject matter are placed under the "criticisms" category with all positive aspects of the subject being added only as defenses against its negatives. That's not neutral. I also have concerns about the shifting definitions of "mode" being used this article, including the habit of narrowing the definition to Jef Raskin's tight definition of "mode" when an "anti" case can be made, then applying that case to a broader definition. For example, according to Raskin's definition, a modal file dialog is not "mode" if the user explicitly requested to save and saving is the user's current focus (see Mode (computer interface)#Defintion), yet this article blurs that distinction to its detriment. Until these issues are resolved, I'd like to keep an NPOV tag on here. 98.232.121.163 ( talk) 14:40, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Careful there, Diego. What you are proposing (combining two different sources to come up with a third concept) is the very definition of synthesis. Window modality and application modality are different concepts. Having said that, I think the article is already looking much, much better. Some simple rearrangements of information went a long way to having a more NPOV-sounding article. I'm even willing to go so far to say that I'm okay with dropping the NPOV tag at this point. One last thing. I read every single one of the cited sources. Each one had very good, solid, and well-supported criticisms about error/confirmation popups, especially focus-stealing ones. However, these are only subset of modal dialogs, if the most abused. There seemed to be few, if any, concerns about other kinds of modal dialogs such as modal save dialogs, modal "about" dialogs, modal configuration dialogs, modal login dialogs, etc. In fact, the Jeff Atwood article [2] specifically recommends using wizards (which are universally modal windows). The article should try not to paint all modal windows with the same brush, especially when the cited sources are aimed only at a subset. 98.232.121.163 ( talk) 18:13, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Still new at helping to maintain Wikipedia, but for those of us who have little knowledge about programming (which is probably why I stopped here first to learn about it), I was hoping that the terms "child" and "parent" could be linked to their definitions in the context of this article. Still learning how to do this or I would do that myself; such as, if I knew more about the difference between "modaless" and "modeless" I would just go ahead and make the correction - or, is it "modal less" and "model less"? I thank you, sincerely. MVD ( talk) 11:22, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I have never heard of this library, there are tons of them and I often look at top 10 best JS apps for inspiration. So I have a strong feeling it is an ad. If I had to say what the quintessential modal was, I would say bootstrap modal. It is even called a modal. Not to mention that discontent towards modals is linked to bootstrap addiction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.100.13.70 ( talk) 10:45, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: no consensus. There is firstly a minimal participation but I gave more weight since the proposed name doesn't reflect the current state of the article. Incorporation of this would help the article. ( non-admin closure) Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 06:52, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Modal window → Modal (computing) – As User:Nnivi justly points out above, any user interface element can be a modal, not just windows. A popover, just to give one example, can also be modal or modeless. Another example, also given by Nnivi, is the drop-down list. 62.166.252.25 ( talk) 14:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 ( talk) 21:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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Hi.
I noticed that there are 2 occurrences of the same typo/error. You typed "modeless" instead of "modaless" - the opposite programming design for GUI. It is in the last paragraph of the document.
I would appreciate if you fix it.
10x.
![]() | On 20 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Modal (computing). The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
The modality of a window, whether it forces interaction by disabling other interaction, is one attribute of a window. This is similar to whether a window is full screen or contains a title bar. This attribute does not make a window an inherently different graphical control element and any graphical control element could have modality. A drop down could similarly disable all other functionality until a choice is selected. There wouldn't be an article for 'modal down down' or 'full screen window'. Going forward, should this article be merged with window, popover, or mode? Nnivi ( talk) 14:41, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
I though a modal window indeed interrupt main windows workflow and wait for user response (maybe some times, like the 'Quit window: Save - Delete - Cancel" window. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.226.253.162 ( talk) 00:57, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
As a programmer, I have always known this term is "modaless" as opposed to "modal". You can check anywhere in the printed books as well as known sites such as Codeguru, etc. It is definitely Modaless. If you don't agree, I would suggest that at least it will be added between parentheses. Thanks.
Thanks for the clarification. I'll keep that in mind.
Clearly this entire article was written by an anti-modal activist, for the sole purpose of demonstrating the overuse and inadequacy of modal windows. -- 64.149.36.43 ( talk) 21:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Are there still doubts about the current neutrality status? If not, I will remove the NPOV tag. Diego ( talk) 10:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I've added a NPOV tag to this article. Several editors have expressed concerns over this article, and I tend to agree with them. The biggest concern I have is that the overall tone of the article is adversarial. All aspects of the subject matter are placed under the "criticisms" category with all positive aspects of the subject being added only as defenses against its negatives. That's not neutral. I also have concerns about the shifting definitions of "mode" being used this article, including the habit of narrowing the definition to Jef Raskin's tight definition of "mode" when an "anti" case can be made, then applying that case to a broader definition. For example, according to Raskin's definition, a modal file dialog is not "mode" if the user explicitly requested to save and saving is the user's current focus (see Mode (computer interface)#Defintion), yet this article blurs that distinction to its detriment. Until these issues are resolved, I'd like to keep an NPOV tag on here. 98.232.121.163 ( talk) 14:40, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Careful there, Diego. What you are proposing (combining two different sources to come up with a third concept) is the very definition of synthesis. Window modality and application modality are different concepts. Having said that, I think the article is already looking much, much better. Some simple rearrangements of information went a long way to having a more NPOV-sounding article. I'm even willing to go so far to say that I'm okay with dropping the NPOV tag at this point. One last thing. I read every single one of the cited sources. Each one had very good, solid, and well-supported criticisms about error/confirmation popups, especially focus-stealing ones. However, these are only subset of modal dialogs, if the most abused. There seemed to be few, if any, concerns about other kinds of modal dialogs such as modal save dialogs, modal "about" dialogs, modal configuration dialogs, modal login dialogs, etc. In fact, the Jeff Atwood article [2] specifically recommends using wizards (which are universally modal windows). The article should try not to paint all modal windows with the same brush, especially when the cited sources are aimed only at a subset. 98.232.121.163 ( talk) 18:13, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Still new at helping to maintain Wikipedia, but for those of us who have little knowledge about programming (which is probably why I stopped here first to learn about it), I was hoping that the terms "child" and "parent" could be linked to their definitions in the context of this article. Still learning how to do this or I would do that myself; such as, if I knew more about the difference between "modaless" and "modeless" I would just go ahead and make the correction - or, is it "modal less" and "model less"? I thank you, sincerely. MVD ( talk) 11:22, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I have never heard of this library, there are tons of them and I often look at top 10 best JS apps for inspiration. So I have a strong feeling it is an ad. If I had to say what the quintessential modal was, I would say bootstrap modal. It is even called a modal. Not to mention that discontent towards modals is linked to bootstrap addiction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.100.13.70 ( talk) 10:45, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: no consensus. There is firstly a minimal participation but I gave more weight since the proposed name doesn't reflect the current state of the article. Incorporation of this would help the article. ( non-admin closure) Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 06:52, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Modal window → Modal (computing) – As User:Nnivi justly points out above, any user interface element can be a modal, not just windows. A popover, just to give one example, can also be modal or modeless. Another example, also given by Nnivi, is the drop-down list. 62.166.252.25 ( talk) 14:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 ( talk) 21:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)