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I came across this page because someone cited it on Reddit to compare the relative walkability of Philadelphia to NYC. But the source for NYC is for just the city and the source for Philadelphia is for the greater metropolitan area. In addition the NYC source measures modality for all trips while the Philadelphia measures just commuting. It's completely different statistics that in table form wildly misrepresent the relative difference between the two cities.
I haven't audited the other sources but if they're similarly different then the table is more misleading than useful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.52.142.134 ( talk) 16:33, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
I have the feeling that many of the numbers mentioned here are very strange. Look at Osaka: the numbers stated here are from http://ltaacademy.lta.gov.sg/doc/JOURNEYS_Nov2011.pdf. However, the Wikipedia article about transport in Osaka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_Greater_Osaka has totally different number. What is correct? I believe the numbers stated here cannot be correct - cycling in Osaka must have a modal share of at least 10%, maybe even 20% or more.
Look at the numbers for Paris. The source which was used for Osaka (see above) states numbers for Paris which are totally different from those in the article. Maybe the numbers in the present article refer only to the very inner district of Paris. In any case: all the numbers mentioned here should be checked very carefully - there seem to be several errors! -- 110.33.215.212 ( talk) 06:33, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
The first thing that jumped out to me: There are many cities in the 1,000,000 inhabitants group that do not have nearly that many people. Seattle and Portland are two examples, but there are likely more. The metro areas might be over 1,000,000 people, but the mode share percentages quoted are for the cities alone. This is inaccurate. tfooq ( talk) 19:45, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
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So, this is only non-US cities over 250K population, even though cities over 1M includes US cities. I'm sure this had to do with what data was available but an explanation in the article might be useful rather than mixing and matching data types without any explanation. 174.17.177.194 ( talk) 22:54, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
Since the metro areas of cities like Frankfurt have a population of near six million people, I feel that most cities in the below 1 million "metropolitan area population" do not actually fit into said table. 79.228.93.241 ( talk) 10:01, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
This is not the first time I have seen another public facing website using the 1992 data from ResearchGate of all places as a source, which is already bad enough, but then to *mark it as 2019* is really disingenuous considering how significantly more car-centric has Kuala Lumpur been. I don't even know how is it marked 2019 seeing as if you actually visit the citation [1], it very explicitly says "January 1992".
The first metros were only introduced in the mid-to-late 1990s, before that minibuses reign supreme.
I have gone ahead and changed the date just to be sure, but I was not able to find a decently current data for the latest modal split in Kuala Lumpur specifically. Ngbeslhang ( talk) 11:43, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
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I came across this page because someone cited it on Reddit to compare the relative walkability of Philadelphia to NYC. But the source for NYC is for just the city and the source for Philadelphia is for the greater metropolitan area. In addition the NYC source measures modality for all trips while the Philadelphia measures just commuting. It's completely different statistics that in table form wildly misrepresent the relative difference between the two cities.
I haven't audited the other sources but if they're similarly different then the table is more misleading than useful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.52.142.134 ( talk) 16:33, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
I have the feeling that many of the numbers mentioned here are very strange. Look at Osaka: the numbers stated here are from http://ltaacademy.lta.gov.sg/doc/JOURNEYS_Nov2011.pdf. However, the Wikipedia article about transport in Osaka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_Greater_Osaka has totally different number. What is correct? I believe the numbers stated here cannot be correct - cycling in Osaka must have a modal share of at least 10%, maybe even 20% or more.
Look at the numbers for Paris. The source which was used for Osaka (see above) states numbers for Paris which are totally different from those in the article. Maybe the numbers in the present article refer only to the very inner district of Paris. In any case: all the numbers mentioned here should be checked very carefully - there seem to be several errors! -- 110.33.215.212 ( talk) 06:33, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
The first thing that jumped out to me: There are many cities in the 1,000,000 inhabitants group that do not have nearly that many people. Seattle and Portland are two examples, but there are likely more. The metro areas might be over 1,000,000 people, but the mode share percentages quoted are for the cities alone. This is inaccurate. tfooq ( talk) 19:45, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
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So, this is only non-US cities over 250K population, even though cities over 1M includes US cities. I'm sure this had to do with what data was available but an explanation in the article might be useful rather than mixing and matching data types without any explanation. 174.17.177.194 ( talk) 22:54, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
Since the metro areas of cities like Frankfurt have a population of near six million people, I feel that most cities in the below 1 million "metropolitan area population" do not actually fit into said table. 79.228.93.241 ( talk) 10:01, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
This is not the first time I have seen another public facing website using the 1992 data from ResearchGate of all places as a source, which is already bad enough, but then to *mark it as 2019* is really disingenuous considering how significantly more car-centric has Kuala Lumpur been. I don't even know how is it marked 2019 seeing as if you actually visit the citation [1], it very explicitly says "January 1992".
The first metros were only introduced in the mid-to-late 1990s, before that minibuses reign supreme.
I have gone ahead and changed the date just to be sure, but I was not able to find a decently current data for the latest modal split in Kuala Lumpur specifically. Ngbeslhang ( talk) 11:43, 25 May 2024 (UTC)