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In the cite web template for refname "Miz daily esports interview" (currently ref #3), change url-status=live to url-status=dead and add "|archive-url= https://web.archive.org/web/20210111224941/https://www.dailyesports.gg/the-drive-to-be-a-top-streamer-an-interview-with-matt-mizkif-rinaudo/ |archive-date=January 11, 2021" somewhere in the template. Firefangledfeathers ( talk) 19:14, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
The New York Times has updated their article currently used to substantiate his name being Mathew Rinaudo, reference #3, to more accurately describe it. Original wording was "Mizkif, who is Matthew Rinaudo and has 640,000 Twitch followers". Updated wording is "Mizkif, who is also knwon as Matthew Rinaudo and has 640,000 Twitch followers"
Thought it should be pointed out here because it's easy to miss, and let the editors do with this information what they see fit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JTproton ( talk • contribs) 16:50, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Due to the previous image being a facially-obstructed photo of Rinaudo, I have changed it to a more identifiable photo of him. L33tm4n ( talk) 16:56, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
I believe it is more accurate to use "Mizkif" instead of "Rinaudo" on the page to refer to him. I have left this comment here instead of editing the article in order to not publish material that constitutes "original research" Aisonix ( talk) 21:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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His real name is not Rinaudo, he has been lying/creating the meme in order to hide it. real proof: [removed] How is that not a reliable source? it shows his name,company and location, which is texas. Where are the reliable resources that his family name is rinaudo?
The real name is Matthew [removed] another proof his real life friend and erobb reaction when accidentally leaked.
He attended High school graduation, [removed] His full name being called
He attended at this college College graduation, [removed]
[removed] His name Matt [removed] being called [removed] His appearance Verox67 ( talk) 23:49, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Change the real name Emily rinaudo is NOT his sister Add his highschool and college
@ScottishFinnishRadish did you actually see the links or are you trolling?
Okay counter question: Where do we get to assume Rinaudo is his real name. The only "source" here is him saying it which he could be as well as lying/pretending/meming whatever (based on how many "stories" he has been fabricating/telling)
The coperate site states his name [removed], the Youtube video (it was a stream where his real life friend and erobb221 have been streaming and of course the video of demand got deleted. Erobb221 has been living with Mizkif in 2019 if you guys don't know and you can see at the end of the video Mizkif writing in Discord to Erobb) mentions [removed] and you can listen to his name and watch his face at the time stamps on the highschool as well as the college video. All the "sources" (reliable or not) are indicating that assuming rinaudo is his real name is questionable if not wrong. Writing [removed] in his chat will get you permabanned and he will always deny it.
Edit: alright, what about these "sources" then also stating [removed] as his name?
https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/sodapoppin-attempts-send-mizkif-insulting-message-gets-banned-twitch-chat https://www.sportskeeda.com/amp/esports/when-pokimane-s-twitch-ban-end?article-trending https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/nmplol-jokes-hitting-maya-higa-hypothetical-split-malena https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/got-milli-videos-atrioc-ludwig-make-connection-mizkif-s-youtube-views-titles https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/fans-confused-erobb-s-leaked-news-mizkif-russel https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/sodapoppin-attempts-send-mizkif-insulting-message-gets-banned-twitch-chat https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/pokimane-others-laugh-shock-mizkif-obliterates-word-game-public-twitch-stream https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/slicker-complains-rewards-on-mizkif-s-otk-parasocial-event
Remember there are different article writers on those links (besides Vibha Hegde) and yes this site is unreliable as stated above, my point here is that this name [removed] is mentioned several times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4mzILoBv6c (him confirming that he was wrestling in highschool) [removed] https://www.reddit.com/r/Mizkif/comments/fha56e/another_one/ (author says the photos are public so sources to that can be found)
You can't say that these have no connection to each other and confidently state Rinaudo as his real name without questioning it. Are you telling me that there are two different people out there? Possible, but i personally doubt it.
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His name is Matthew [removed] not Matthew Rinaudo. Stickguy19 ( talk) 15:10, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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Change last name from "Rinaudo" to "[removed]" 2603:8000:2440:9916:E0CB:CC3:4BCF:C183 ( talk) 04:04, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
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The OTK organization Wikipedia page seems to summarize it well for reference.
"On September 20, 2022, co-owner Mizkif was placed on leave by the group after a series of clips and other content involving him, which included him allegedly downplaying an incident of sexual assault, as well as racist and homophobic comments made from 2018 to 2019, came to light"
Since this is a recent event obviously any updates to the reporting or quality of sources would require additional review. 47.234.137.203 ( talk) 15:48, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
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Current version: "On September 19, 2022, Rinaudo was accused by fellow twitch streamer Trainwreckstv of downplaying and covering up an incident where his roommate and fellow Twitch streamer CrazySlick allegedly sexually assaulted another Twitch streamer by the name of AdrianahLee. Later that day, streamer Ice Poseidon, whom Rinaudo worked with during his early streaming career, unveiled a series of racist and homophobic comments made by Rinaudo that spanned from 2018 to 2019. The following day, as a result of the aforementioned incidents, Rinaudo was placed on leave by One True King. [1] [2] [3] [4]"
Requested version: "On September 19, 2022, Rinaudo was accused by fellow Twitch streamer Trainwreckstv of downplaying and covering up an incident where his roommate and fellow streamer CrazySlick allegedly sexually assaulted female streamer AdrianahLee. Later that day, streamer Ice Poseidon, whom Rinaudo worked with during his early streaming career, unveiled a series of racist and homophobic comments made by Rinaudo that spanned from 2018 to 2019. The following day, as a result of the aforementioned incidents, Rinaudo was placed on leave by One True King. [5] [6] [7] [8]"
Correcting capitalization and other grammar + removing a link per MOS:REPEATLINK. 96.235.164.171 ( talk) 17:43, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
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Since you have deleted all hints for his real real name here, maybe you should do the same on Wikidata!? -- 2A02:1210:28A5:7A00:5988:A756:C116:EDC ( talk) 11:42, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
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Change Matthew Rrinaudo to Matthew (Redacted)
The latter one is his real name. Source: (Redacted) Page 34, top row in the middle Tandiem ( talk) 19:23, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
https://trellis.law/case/48453/d-1-gn-23-001507/d-1-gn-23-001507
Is this lawsuit against Mizkif enough evidence to prove his real last name? 107.127.46.58 ( talk) 13:48, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
After the initial mention, a person should generally be referred to by surname only. ... When a majority of reliable secondary sources refer to persons by a pseudonym, they should be subsequently referred to by their pseudonymous surnames, unless they do not include a recognizable surname in the pseudonym (e.g. Sting, Snoop Dogg, the Edge), in which case the whole pseudonym is used. For people well known by one-word names, nicknames, or pseudonyms, but who often also use their legal names professionally – e.g., André Benjamin ("André 3000"), Jennifer Lopez ("J.Lo"); doctor/broadcaster Drew Pinsky ("Dr. Drew") – use the legal surname. If they use their mononym or pseudonym exclusively, then use that name (e.g. Aaliyah, Selena, and Usher).
The events and amount raised don't seem notable enough to warrant a separate section, maybe just a mention in "career" section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ekcrisp ( talk • contribs) 04:11, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
This claim is/was annotated by two references: one from influencerupdate.biz and another published a few days later from dotesports.com. If you read the more recent Dot Esports article, the female streamer states that she herself drunkenly and jokingly initiated a discussion of inappropriate nature (not Rinaudo) but later decided to request getting the footage removed due to embarrassment for her own behavior. The article makes it overwhelmingly clear that this event wrongfully attributes allegations of misbehavior to Rinaudo. The initial claim is based on outdated speculative information that was subsequently disproved. YassaBukhara ( talk) 23:21, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
In the fifth paragraph why does is say the accusations were “false”? The corresponding reference links (16-19) only state the accusations and not that they were false. 24.34.101.91 ( talk) 08:24, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
YouTube video - Can we finally remove his fake last name or does Wikipedia still insists to spread misinformation? DestinyFound ( talk) 10:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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In the cite web template for refname "Miz daily esports interview" (currently ref #3), change url-status=live to url-status=dead and add "|archive-url= https://web.archive.org/web/20210111224941/https://www.dailyesports.gg/the-drive-to-be-a-top-streamer-an-interview-with-matt-mizkif-rinaudo/ |archive-date=January 11, 2021" somewhere in the template. Firefangledfeathers ( talk) 19:14, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
The New York Times has updated their article currently used to substantiate his name being Mathew Rinaudo, reference #3, to more accurately describe it. Original wording was "Mizkif, who is Matthew Rinaudo and has 640,000 Twitch followers". Updated wording is "Mizkif, who is also knwon as Matthew Rinaudo and has 640,000 Twitch followers"
Thought it should be pointed out here because it's easy to miss, and let the editors do with this information what they see fit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JTproton ( talk • contribs) 16:50, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Due to the previous image being a facially-obstructed photo of Rinaudo, I have changed it to a more identifiable photo of him. L33tm4n ( talk) 16:56, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
I believe it is more accurate to use "Mizkif" instead of "Rinaudo" on the page to refer to him. I have left this comment here instead of editing the article in order to not publish material that constitutes "original research" Aisonix ( talk) 21:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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His real name is not Rinaudo, he has been lying/creating the meme in order to hide it. real proof: [removed] How is that not a reliable source? it shows his name,company and location, which is texas. Where are the reliable resources that his family name is rinaudo?
The real name is Matthew [removed] another proof his real life friend and erobb reaction when accidentally leaked.
He attended High school graduation, [removed] His full name being called
He attended at this college College graduation, [removed]
[removed] His name Matt [removed] being called [removed] His appearance Verox67 ( talk) 23:49, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Change the real name Emily rinaudo is NOT his sister Add his highschool and college
@ScottishFinnishRadish did you actually see the links or are you trolling?
Okay counter question: Where do we get to assume Rinaudo is his real name. The only "source" here is him saying it which he could be as well as lying/pretending/meming whatever (based on how many "stories" he has been fabricating/telling)
The coperate site states his name [removed], the Youtube video (it was a stream where his real life friend and erobb221 have been streaming and of course the video of demand got deleted. Erobb221 has been living with Mizkif in 2019 if you guys don't know and you can see at the end of the video Mizkif writing in Discord to Erobb) mentions [removed] and you can listen to his name and watch his face at the time stamps on the highschool as well as the college video. All the "sources" (reliable or not) are indicating that assuming rinaudo is his real name is questionable if not wrong. Writing [removed] in his chat will get you permabanned and he will always deny it.
Edit: alright, what about these "sources" then also stating [removed] as his name?
https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/sodapoppin-attempts-send-mizkif-insulting-message-gets-banned-twitch-chat https://www.sportskeeda.com/amp/esports/when-pokimane-s-twitch-ban-end?article-trending https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/nmplol-jokes-hitting-maya-higa-hypothetical-split-malena https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/got-milli-videos-atrioc-ludwig-make-connection-mizkif-s-youtube-views-titles https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/fans-confused-erobb-s-leaked-news-mizkif-russel https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/sodapoppin-attempts-send-mizkif-insulting-message-gets-banned-twitch-chat https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/pokimane-others-laugh-shock-mizkif-obliterates-word-game-public-twitch-stream https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/slicker-complains-rewards-on-mizkif-s-otk-parasocial-event
Remember there are different article writers on those links (besides Vibha Hegde) and yes this site is unreliable as stated above, my point here is that this name [removed] is mentioned several times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4mzILoBv6c (him confirming that he was wrestling in highschool) [removed] https://www.reddit.com/r/Mizkif/comments/fha56e/another_one/ (author says the photos are public so sources to that can be found)
You can't say that these have no connection to each other and confidently state Rinaudo as his real name without questioning it. Are you telling me that there are two different people out there? Possible, but i personally doubt it.
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His name is Matthew [removed] not Matthew Rinaudo. Stickguy19 ( talk) 15:10, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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Change last name from "Rinaudo" to "[removed]" 2603:8000:2440:9916:E0CB:CC3:4BCF:C183 ( talk) 04:04, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Based on WP:BLPSPS, WP:AVOIDVICTIM, WP:BLPCRIME, WP:LIBEL, WP:INDISCRIMINATE, WP:NOTSCANDAL, WP:RS, WP:BLPSPS and WP:PROMOTION (BLP policy applies to all living persons, not just the page subject); the BLP policy appears to support removing any individuals names and identities that are not the BLP page subject, either due to the severity of the allegations, potentially libelous and controversial nature of the accusations involved - for both the alleged accused and victims, unconfirmed legal status of these accusations, the low quality sources and reliance on self published statements, as well as the potential for normalizing including this type of self promotion (which is difficult to discern with public social media figures) on Wikipedia WP:BLPCOI, WP:NPOV, WP:NOR.
The OTK organization Wikipedia page seems to summarize it well for reference.
"On September 20, 2022, co-owner Mizkif was placed on leave by the group after a series of clips and other content involving him, which included him allegedly downplaying an incident of sexual assault, as well as racist and homophobic comments made from 2018 to 2019, came to light"
Since this is a recent event obviously any updates to the reporting or quality of sources would require additional review. 47.234.137.203 ( talk) 15:48, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
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Current version: "On September 19, 2022, Rinaudo was accused by fellow twitch streamer Trainwreckstv of downplaying and covering up an incident where his roommate and fellow Twitch streamer CrazySlick allegedly sexually assaulted another Twitch streamer by the name of AdrianahLee. Later that day, streamer Ice Poseidon, whom Rinaudo worked with during his early streaming career, unveiled a series of racist and homophobic comments made by Rinaudo that spanned from 2018 to 2019. The following day, as a result of the aforementioned incidents, Rinaudo was placed on leave by One True King. [1] [2] [3] [4]"
Requested version: "On September 19, 2022, Rinaudo was accused by fellow Twitch streamer Trainwreckstv of downplaying and covering up an incident where his roommate and fellow streamer CrazySlick allegedly sexually assaulted female streamer AdrianahLee. Later that day, streamer Ice Poseidon, whom Rinaudo worked with during his early streaming career, unveiled a series of racist and homophobic comments made by Rinaudo that spanned from 2018 to 2019. The following day, as a result of the aforementioned incidents, Rinaudo was placed on leave by One True King. [5] [6] [7] [8]"
Correcting capitalization and other grammar + removing a link per MOS:REPEATLINK. 96.235.164.171 ( talk) 17:43, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
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Since you have deleted all hints for his real real name here, maybe you should do the same on Wikidata!? -- 2A02:1210:28A5:7A00:5988:A756:C116:EDC ( talk) 11:42, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
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Change Matthew Rrinaudo to Matthew (Redacted)
The latter one is his real name. Source: (Redacted) Page 34, top row in the middle Tandiem ( talk) 19:23, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
https://trellis.law/case/48453/d-1-gn-23-001507/d-1-gn-23-001507
Is this lawsuit against Mizkif enough evidence to prove his real last name? 107.127.46.58 ( talk) 13:48, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
After the initial mention, a person should generally be referred to by surname only. ... When a majority of reliable secondary sources refer to persons by a pseudonym, they should be subsequently referred to by their pseudonymous surnames, unless they do not include a recognizable surname in the pseudonym (e.g. Sting, Snoop Dogg, the Edge), in which case the whole pseudonym is used. For people well known by one-word names, nicknames, or pseudonyms, but who often also use their legal names professionally – e.g., André Benjamin ("André 3000"), Jennifer Lopez ("J.Lo"); doctor/broadcaster Drew Pinsky ("Dr. Drew") – use the legal surname. If they use their mononym or pseudonym exclusively, then use that name (e.g. Aaliyah, Selena, and Usher).
The events and amount raised don't seem notable enough to warrant a separate section, maybe just a mention in "career" section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ekcrisp ( talk • contribs) 04:11, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
This claim is/was annotated by two references: one from influencerupdate.biz and another published a few days later from dotesports.com. If you read the more recent Dot Esports article, the female streamer states that she herself drunkenly and jokingly initiated a discussion of inappropriate nature (not Rinaudo) but later decided to request getting the footage removed due to embarrassment for her own behavior. The article makes it overwhelmingly clear that this event wrongfully attributes allegations of misbehavior to Rinaudo. The initial claim is based on outdated speculative information that was subsequently disproved. YassaBukhara ( talk) 23:21, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
In the fifth paragraph why does is say the accusations were “false”? The corresponding reference links (16-19) only state the accusations and not that they were false. 24.34.101.91 ( talk) 08:24, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
YouTube video - Can we finally remove his fake last name or does Wikipedia still insists to spread misinformation? DestinyFound ( talk) 10:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)