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whoever these people are, you did a really nice job! nice summary on the career of mr. sinister. awhile back i wrote down "mr. sinister is a bad guy." i returned and i see you nicely filled out the details of his life. i created a link on "mister x" which was wolverine's adversary. 64.107.183.72 17:58, April 24, 2004 (UTC)
I understand that there is no other category for the fact that Mr Sinister is immoral, but should it really come under "Notable powers"?
BowserMarkII 16:34, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Probably not, especially since circumstances in Colossus: Bloodline led readers to believe that Sinster's powers were waning and needed to be revitalized by a reincarnated Grigory Rasputin. Possibly remove immortality from the powers section but put a notes section on the page explaining what I just said. Tullyman 20:31, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Is he a mad scientist or an evil genius? I guess the latter. -- David.alex.lamb 02:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I'd say he's both -- he is a top-notch scinetist -- though he does lean more towards the latter. Oh, and it really should be immortal, not immoral... though both are appropriate in his case Dr Archeville 18:45, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Do you have a citation for him being immortal? Could he not have a long life span but not be immortal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ldstryfe ( talk • contribs) 00:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
"is a supervillain in the Marvel Comics universe. The character is a recurring foe of the X-Men"
With is recent death, it should be in the past tense.
"was a supervillian in the Marvel Comics universe. The character was a recurring for of the X-Men"
I realize he has not been dead that long, but characters that are confirmed dead are written of in the past tense because they are no longer alive in the present. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.150.105 ( talk) 00:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
How many times in the past has Sinister "died"?? I don't think he's going to stay dead. -- Drunknesmonsta ( talk) 00:30, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Can you site a source for his death? Raven Darkholm was also absorbed by Rogue but she is very much alive so until their is a sited definative source he should not be listed as dead. Jason —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ldstryfe ( talk • contribs) 14:41, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Where are the sources for Sinister's biographical info for those who want to read the complete stories in the comics? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.225.130.109 ( talk) 06:52, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Since when has immorality been a "notable superpower"? Immortal is the only thing that fits there, and I'll have to edit it to get rid of that obvious mistake.
I don't know a whole lot about Mister Sinister, but I think the main image could be better (maybe something like this [1]). The current one is very dark, dfoes not show a lot of his costume, and due to the shadows etc it is kind of confusing... Davey4
Yeah, I'm not so found of it either. Here's a few images
[2]
[3]
DCincarnate
Personally I dont have a problem with the pic but, I like the top pic of the second choice more. That first pic makes Sinister look to weak, Thefro552 13:14, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah any of those posted seem better to me. Just as long as it is lighter, and it clearly shows his face/costume etc. Thanks Davey4
Here is another one I found. [4] DCincarnate
The link is Forbidden. Oooooooh Scary :) Thefro552 06:18, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry. Here it is [5] DCincarnate
Looks like some high school kid drew that. I still like the other image. Thefro552 16:22, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Which image was that? DCincarnate
Link #3, the top image, the full body shot. Thefro552 04:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I have added a new image of Sinister DCincarnate
Looks good. Two thumbs up. :) Thefro552 16:58, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
I have had an issue with the usage of the word invunerable. By definition invunerable means to be completly impervious to harm. There is no character that is completly invunerable, even the likes of Superman and Thor can still be hurt (granted its way more difficult for them).
In Essex's case the only protection he really has is tougher skin, his healing factor takes care of the rest. The example of him being shot through the head expresses this perfectly. Superhuman durability seems to me to be a better representation of this ability. Please comment. Thefro552 03:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Sinister has shown the ability to teleport on several occasions: X-Men #23-27-45-52 and Cable #6. In Colossus Bloodlines #5, Mikhail Rasputin mentions that Sinister can teleport. Sinister's OHOTMU bio also outright states that Sinister is a teleporter. -- DCincarnate ( talk) 22:14, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I liked the original article better than this. It was nice to have a reference point for all of his past exploits. This article doesn't do this character justice given the amount of problems he has created for various X-Teams. To be honest its kinda disapointing. -- Drunknesmonsta ( talk) 00:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
The original article was terrible. The problem with Sinister's history is that he makes a small appearance in an (X-Men) issue, does SOMETHING bad, but there is hardly much he does worthwhile, aside from what you can see in the article that I left in, nor is there any real conclusion to his schemes. It's difficult to write out Sinister's full history because it's frankly just clutter. DCincarnate ( talk) 00:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
“ | Nathaniel Essex was born in London in the 19th century. He was a geneticist of unparalleled genius in Victorian England, with an obsession over Darwin's theory of evolution. During his research he discovered in 1859 that humanity had been undergoing increasing mutation and foresaw the coming mutations that would transform mankind. | ” |
“ | By the early 20th Century, Sinister has cracked the human genome and shares the information with Herbert Edgar Wyndham, who later becomes the High Evolutionary. | ” |
“ | After the German defeat, his journal is found by Professor Thorton, the future director of the Weapon X Project. | ” |
Sinister wan in part one of the story of Endangered Spieces, but the diarys of Destiny thing was in Blinded by the Light. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.18.51 ( talk) 23:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I was playing X-men Legends 2 with my brother,and my character was Nightcrawler.When we encountered Mister Sinister,he had a special dialogue with my character.Should this be added to the page?-- Neekerisanni123 ( talk) 21:51, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
CAT:LGBT supervillains is appropriate here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.28.91.52 ( talk) 02:23, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, but seeing as Mister Sinister has taken so much and survived, no one has any right to assume that Miss Sinister is dead as a result of the latest storyline. Until Marvel confirms her death, it is speculation. Sorry to disappoint the fanboy who jumped at the chance to list she was killed....awwwwww. Timmyfitz161 ( talk) 06:03, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
who is miss sinister, as in, does she appear before the legacy storyline? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.55.72 ( talk) 17:34, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
True. ( JoeLoeb ( talk) 01:06, 23 April 2009 (UTC))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Summers_brother
regarding the subject of the third summers brother in X-men and hopfully you can edit and add this new info this new sinister is a clone the Original sinister is died kieron Gillen the writer of Uncanny x-men Vol. 2 wrote and explain more on his formspring that this new clone sinister does in fact have summers DNA in him the link is below with the others showing proof
http://www.formspring.me/KieronGillen/q/400998563707911267
http://www.formspring.me/KieronGillen/q/400998563707911267
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Sinister#2010s Now dressed in Victorian era garb, Mister Sinister resurfaced in the pages of Uncanny X-Men #544. In Uncanny X-Menvol 2 #1, he merges with the Dreaming Celestial and warps its head to match his own and uses the power he gained as a result, to turn San Francisco's residents into doppelgangers of himself. Mister Sinister regards this as a new species, the perfect species, but is defeated and forced from San Francisco. During the Avengers vs. X-Men storyline, Mister Sinister has built his own city (based on Victorian-era London) in the Moloids' underground tunnels within Subterranea. The city is inhabited solely by his clones. After disposing of a rebel clone, he explains to one of his other clones that he has foreseen that the Phoenix Force would come after Hope Summers, that the Avengers would try to stop it and clash against the X-Men, resulting in the Phoenix Five. He also knows that the Phoenix Five will soon come after him and intends to take the Phoenix energy away from them by using a group of Madelyne Pryor clones.[35] During a meeting of the Extinction Team, the Phoenix Five reveal to Magneto, Storm, Psylocke and Danger (who is still controlled by UNIT) that Mister Sinister is the one who told Hope about the Phoenix Force, and ponder on the danger that his goals may represent to the world. The Phoenix Five leave their teammates behind and track Mister Sinister to Anchorage, Alaska (Cyclops's birthplace) finding out that he built his city in the underground tunnels beneath Anchorage. Mister Sinister then orders his clones to enter into war against the Phoenix Five.[36] One by one, the Phoenix Five members are taken down by Mister Sinister's cloned creatures (including a clone of Krakoa) until only Cyclops remains. He is eventually defeated by the Madelyne Pryor clones. Shortly after, Magneto, Storm, Psylocke and Danger arrive at Mister Sinister's city and find out that their teammates were captured.[37] However, the Phoenix Five were able to escape and decided to kill each and every clone of Sinister, ending the threat he posed to mutantkind.[38] Yet the threat of Sinister still goes on as he had actually at some point murdered Katie Kildare, Cyclops' PR agent, and took her place in Utopia, being the Sinister the Phoenix Five confronted and killed been just another clone of him.
http://www.formspring.me/KieronGillen/q/396093076210213247 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acomicbookfan ( talk • contribs) 07:20, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Where? When? Could we get a source or something for this? If someone can point it out, they can change it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.188.41 ( talk) 18:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
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As Miss Sinister has started to become a separate character from Mister Sinister, I suggest that we split her section. Who's with me on this? -- Rtkat3 ( talk) 19:00, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Miss Sinister is a separate character and always has been. Different name, different personality. She's been a villain in numerous stories separate from Mr. Sinister including arcs in X-23, X-Men Blue, and most recently, Dead Man Logan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.205.189 ( talk) 05:20, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
no, its an extension of sinister. leave it alone. seems to me you dont like transgender storylines, only reason i can think of moving it is to erase that part of sinister. which is integral, as she is his experimental eve, the only clone able to handle the power. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.164.69.53 ( talk) 17:12, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I am moving the following uncited material here until it can be properly supported with inline citations of reliable, secondary sources, per WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:CS, WP:NOR, WP:IRS, WP:PSTS, et al. Some editor(s) indicated cited Gambit (Vol 3) #13 - 14 and X-Men (vol. 2) #94 to support this materials, but I reviewed those books, found very little in the former, and none in the latter, that actually did so.
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whoever these people are, you did a really nice job! nice summary on the career of mr. sinister. awhile back i wrote down "mr. sinister is a bad guy." i returned and i see you nicely filled out the details of his life. i created a link on "mister x" which was wolverine's adversary. 64.107.183.72 17:58, April 24, 2004 (UTC)
I understand that there is no other category for the fact that Mr Sinister is immoral, but should it really come under "Notable powers"?
BowserMarkII 16:34, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Probably not, especially since circumstances in Colossus: Bloodline led readers to believe that Sinster's powers were waning and needed to be revitalized by a reincarnated Grigory Rasputin. Possibly remove immortality from the powers section but put a notes section on the page explaining what I just said. Tullyman 20:31, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Is he a mad scientist or an evil genius? I guess the latter. -- David.alex.lamb 02:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I'd say he's both -- he is a top-notch scinetist -- though he does lean more towards the latter. Oh, and it really should be immortal, not immoral... though both are appropriate in his case Dr Archeville 18:45, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Do you have a citation for him being immortal? Could he not have a long life span but not be immortal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ldstryfe ( talk • contribs) 00:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
"is a supervillain in the Marvel Comics universe. The character is a recurring foe of the X-Men"
With is recent death, it should be in the past tense.
"was a supervillian in the Marvel Comics universe. The character was a recurring for of the X-Men"
I realize he has not been dead that long, but characters that are confirmed dead are written of in the past tense because they are no longer alive in the present. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.150.105 ( talk) 00:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
How many times in the past has Sinister "died"?? I don't think he's going to stay dead. -- Drunknesmonsta ( talk) 00:30, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Can you site a source for his death? Raven Darkholm was also absorbed by Rogue but she is very much alive so until their is a sited definative source he should not be listed as dead. Jason —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ldstryfe ( talk • contribs) 14:41, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Where are the sources for Sinister's biographical info for those who want to read the complete stories in the comics? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.225.130.109 ( talk) 06:52, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Since when has immorality been a "notable superpower"? Immortal is the only thing that fits there, and I'll have to edit it to get rid of that obvious mistake.
I don't know a whole lot about Mister Sinister, but I think the main image could be better (maybe something like this [1]). The current one is very dark, dfoes not show a lot of his costume, and due to the shadows etc it is kind of confusing... Davey4
Yeah, I'm not so found of it either. Here's a few images
[2]
[3]
DCincarnate
Personally I dont have a problem with the pic but, I like the top pic of the second choice more. That first pic makes Sinister look to weak, Thefro552 13:14, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah any of those posted seem better to me. Just as long as it is lighter, and it clearly shows his face/costume etc. Thanks Davey4
Here is another one I found. [4] DCincarnate
The link is Forbidden. Oooooooh Scary :) Thefro552 06:18, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry. Here it is [5] DCincarnate
Looks like some high school kid drew that. I still like the other image. Thefro552 16:22, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Which image was that? DCincarnate
Link #3, the top image, the full body shot. Thefro552 04:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I have added a new image of Sinister DCincarnate
Looks good. Two thumbs up. :) Thefro552 16:58, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
I have had an issue with the usage of the word invunerable. By definition invunerable means to be completly impervious to harm. There is no character that is completly invunerable, even the likes of Superman and Thor can still be hurt (granted its way more difficult for them).
In Essex's case the only protection he really has is tougher skin, his healing factor takes care of the rest. The example of him being shot through the head expresses this perfectly. Superhuman durability seems to me to be a better representation of this ability. Please comment. Thefro552 03:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Sinister has shown the ability to teleport on several occasions: X-Men #23-27-45-52 and Cable #6. In Colossus Bloodlines #5, Mikhail Rasputin mentions that Sinister can teleport. Sinister's OHOTMU bio also outright states that Sinister is a teleporter. -- DCincarnate ( talk) 22:14, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I liked the original article better than this. It was nice to have a reference point for all of his past exploits. This article doesn't do this character justice given the amount of problems he has created for various X-Teams. To be honest its kinda disapointing. -- Drunknesmonsta ( talk) 00:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
The original article was terrible. The problem with Sinister's history is that he makes a small appearance in an (X-Men) issue, does SOMETHING bad, but there is hardly much he does worthwhile, aside from what you can see in the article that I left in, nor is there any real conclusion to his schemes. It's difficult to write out Sinister's full history because it's frankly just clutter. DCincarnate ( talk) 00:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
“ | Nathaniel Essex was born in London in the 19th century. He was a geneticist of unparalleled genius in Victorian England, with an obsession over Darwin's theory of evolution. During his research he discovered in 1859 that humanity had been undergoing increasing mutation and foresaw the coming mutations that would transform mankind. | ” |
“ | By the early 20th Century, Sinister has cracked the human genome and shares the information with Herbert Edgar Wyndham, who later becomes the High Evolutionary. | ” |
“ | After the German defeat, his journal is found by Professor Thorton, the future director of the Weapon X Project. | ” |
Sinister wan in part one of the story of Endangered Spieces, but the diarys of Destiny thing was in Blinded by the Light. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.18.51 ( talk) 23:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I was playing X-men Legends 2 with my brother,and my character was Nightcrawler.When we encountered Mister Sinister,he had a special dialogue with my character.Should this be added to the page?-- Neekerisanni123 ( talk) 21:51, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
CAT:LGBT supervillains is appropriate here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.28.91.52 ( talk) 02:23, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, but seeing as Mister Sinister has taken so much and survived, no one has any right to assume that Miss Sinister is dead as a result of the latest storyline. Until Marvel confirms her death, it is speculation. Sorry to disappoint the fanboy who jumped at the chance to list she was killed....awwwwww. Timmyfitz161 ( talk) 06:03, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
who is miss sinister, as in, does she appear before the legacy storyline? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.55.72 ( talk) 17:34, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
True. ( JoeLoeb ( talk) 01:06, 23 April 2009 (UTC))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Summers_brother
regarding the subject of the third summers brother in X-men and hopfully you can edit and add this new info this new sinister is a clone the Original sinister is died kieron Gillen the writer of Uncanny x-men Vol. 2 wrote and explain more on his formspring that this new clone sinister does in fact have summers DNA in him the link is below with the others showing proof
http://www.formspring.me/KieronGillen/q/400998563707911267
http://www.formspring.me/KieronGillen/q/400998563707911267
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Sinister#2010s Now dressed in Victorian era garb, Mister Sinister resurfaced in the pages of Uncanny X-Men #544. In Uncanny X-Menvol 2 #1, he merges with the Dreaming Celestial and warps its head to match his own and uses the power he gained as a result, to turn San Francisco's residents into doppelgangers of himself. Mister Sinister regards this as a new species, the perfect species, but is defeated and forced from San Francisco. During the Avengers vs. X-Men storyline, Mister Sinister has built his own city (based on Victorian-era London) in the Moloids' underground tunnels within Subterranea. The city is inhabited solely by his clones. After disposing of a rebel clone, he explains to one of his other clones that he has foreseen that the Phoenix Force would come after Hope Summers, that the Avengers would try to stop it and clash against the X-Men, resulting in the Phoenix Five. He also knows that the Phoenix Five will soon come after him and intends to take the Phoenix energy away from them by using a group of Madelyne Pryor clones.[35] During a meeting of the Extinction Team, the Phoenix Five reveal to Magneto, Storm, Psylocke and Danger (who is still controlled by UNIT) that Mister Sinister is the one who told Hope about the Phoenix Force, and ponder on the danger that his goals may represent to the world. The Phoenix Five leave their teammates behind and track Mister Sinister to Anchorage, Alaska (Cyclops's birthplace) finding out that he built his city in the underground tunnels beneath Anchorage. Mister Sinister then orders his clones to enter into war against the Phoenix Five.[36] One by one, the Phoenix Five members are taken down by Mister Sinister's cloned creatures (including a clone of Krakoa) until only Cyclops remains. He is eventually defeated by the Madelyne Pryor clones. Shortly after, Magneto, Storm, Psylocke and Danger arrive at Mister Sinister's city and find out that their teammates were captured.[37] However, the Phoenix Five were able to escape and decided to kill each and every clone of Sinister, ending the threat he posed to mutantkind.[38] Yet the threat of Sinister still goes on as he had actually at some point murdered Katie Kildare, Cyclops' PR agent, and took her place in Utopia, being the Sinister the Phoenix Five confronted and killed been just another clone of him.
http://www.formspring.me/KieronGillen/q/396093076210213247 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acomicbookfan ( talk • contribs) 07:20, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Where? When? Could we get a source or something for this? If someone can point it out, they can change it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.188.41 ( talk) 18:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
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As Miss Sinister has started to become a separate character from Mister Sinister, I suggest that we split her section. Who's with me on this? -- Rtkat3 ( talk) 19:00, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
Miss Sinister is a separate character and always has been. Different name, different personality. She's been a villain in numerous stories separate from Mr. Sinister including arcs in X-23, X-Men Blue, and most recently, Dead Man Logan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.205.189 ( talk) 05:20, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
no, its an extension of sinister. leave it alone. seems to me you dont like transgender storylines, only reason i can think of moving it is to erase that part of sinister. which is integral, as she is his experimental eve, the only clone able to handle the power. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.164.69.53 ( talk) 17:12, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I am moving the following uncited material here until it can be properly supported with inline citations of reliable, secondary sources, per WP:V, WP:NOR, WP:CS, WP:NOR, WP:IRS, WP:PSTS, et al. Some editor(s) indicated cited Gambit (Vol 3) #13 - 14 and X-Men (vol. 2) #94 to support this materials, but I reviewed those books, found very little in the former, and none in the latter, that actually did so.
This diff shows where it was in the article. Nightscream ( talk) 17:34, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
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