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Here is the Spanish article of Miss California USA
Carrie Prejean, for those who want to translate it. I just dont have time.--
Vrysxy
¡Californication!
02:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Donald Trump finally fired Miss California USA, Carrie Prejean, over repeated contract violations.
ABC NEWS, June 10, 2009
There will be no more second chances for former Miss California Carrie Prejean. The Miss USA runner-up has officially been fired, this time with the blessing of pageant owner Donald Trump.
Miss California pageant officials said Wednesday that Prejean was fired because of continued breach of contract issues.
“This was a decision based solely on contract violations including Ms. Prejean’s unwillingness to make appearances on behalf of the Miss California USA organization,” executive director Keith Lewis said in a statement sent to ABCNews.com. “After our press conference in New York we had hoped we would be able to forge a better working relationship. However, since that time it has become abundantly clear that Carrie is unwilling to fulfill her obligations under our contract and work together.”
Even Trump, the real estate mogul who co-owns the Miss USA organization and saved Prejean from losing her crown last month, did not stand in the way this time.
“I told Carrie she needed to get back to work and honor her contract with the Miss California USA Organization and I gave her the opportunity to do so,” Trump said in the statement. “Unfortunately it just doesn’t look like it is going to happen and I offered Keith my full support in making this decision. Carrie is a beautiful young woman and I wish her well as she pursues her other interests.”
Prejean’s representative did not respond immediately to requests for comment from ABCNews.com.
Miss California runner-up Tami Farrell will immediately take over the crown and Prejean’s responsibilities as Miss California. The current Miss USA Kristen Dalton and Miss Universe Dayana Mendoza will also lend a hand in making appearances.
Editor’s note: It is expected that the 2nd runner-up at Miss USA 2009, Alicia Monique Blanco of Arizona, steps up to 1st runner-up status, giving her a chance to become Miss USA if Kristen Dalton wins the Miss Universe pageant next August. -- MASWJ ( talk) 02:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
In this article of AP it is clearly said "Because the contestant's scores are supposed to be kept secret, it may never be known whether Prejean would have won had she not drawn Hilton's question." So what is the source of the final scores in this page? I would like to mark it source requested. BTW, I don't think "homophobic" is NPOV here. CnWei ( talk) 23:50, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
This needs to be added to the article. Now.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/04/19/entertainment/e110634D17.DTL
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Special:Contributions/199.8.26.10|199.8.26.10]] ( talk) 20:14, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I would hope after reading this shit (not all, but most, was) up above that it was written BEFORE the media blitz. The bottom line: Conical had it right. So if it had been about interracial marriage, would you people still be shrugging it off and saying it shouldn't be added to the article? Yahoo's front page did a story on it right after the show was over. It was big news. Also, I wasn't asking for a play-by-play of the telecast. Don't be an asshole. Dryamaka, you're basically on probation as it is, right? Oh, and I'm erasing the homophobic bullshit from the anonymous IP, lets keep the site neat and tidy. And that last entry, man, shut up if you don't have anything to contribute, asshole. Anyway, I'm also predicting some fall-out, i.e. Miss California being dropped from endorsement deals (yes even the runners-up get them sometimes). If or when this occurs, it deserves mention, too. -- Ragemanchoo82 ( talk) 02:37, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Regardless of if it's 'homophobic' or 'freedom of religion' (arguments I've seen elsewhere on the Internet), since it's been all over the news, clearly it does deserve to be in the article. 199.8.26.10 ( talk) 04:39, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Not that it matters what I think, but if it had been about interracial marriage, but had not led to any notable coverage, than it should not have been in the article. Just curious: Does anyone know the winner's position on Same-Sex Marriage? 199.8.26.10 ( talk) 04:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Since when is a beauty contest a litmus test for anyones socio-political world views? WTF was this clown thinking when he even asked that question? and GOOD FOR HER that she gave her honest opinion. I would think less of her had she not. It is NOT homophobic ( a misnomer if ever there was one; Phobic=fear, I believe she showed absolutely none ) to state her beliefs wether you agree with them or not. Grow the hell up. Angelus13 ( talk) 13:39, 24 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelus13 ( talk • contribs) 13:22, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Any reason we should include speculation pertaining to Miley Cyrus's twitter account on this page? - Schrandit ( talk) 12:41, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Effective 4/27/09: any comments in 'Discussion' for this article that are not related to the core subject will be deleted in order to clean up a bit. It's become too messy and appears to have strayed quite a ways from the original topic, not to mention this is not a forum. Please keep discussions related to topi(s) of article. Additional headers for topics in the articles will be considered based on validity, as per Wiki rules and standards. Dryamaka ( talk) 19:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
The article section Miss USA 2009#Controversy over gay marriage question is almost exactly redundant with Carrie Prejean#Controversy, the latter of which points to the former as the "main article" on the topic. Should the latter be shortened? How is this redundancy best handled? -- JeredF ( talk) 17:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
No idea where we'll get an official citation for the scores but I've removed it because it mucks up the heading format & looks bad. The scores were obviously shown during the telecast... anyone up for citing that? Not quite sure how it should be done... PageantUpdater talk • contribs 14:27, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Removed the 'contestant gallery' not really needed here, honestly. Especially with only one of the 51 contestants? It looks so weird, stands out, and is basically just an appendix to the list of contestants anyway. 65.215.94.13 ( talk) 19:27, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
On the April 24, 2009, edition of Have I Got News For You, a British MP Alan Duncan was asked his opinion of Prejean's comments on same sex marriage. Duncan replied, "If you read that Miss California has been murdered, you will know it was me, won't you?" [1] Duncan's comments were immediately condemned by various group including Public Advocate president Eugene Delgaudio who stated: "Public Advocate is concerned when government officials from abroad advocate murdering our citizens. The British ambassador in Washington should be sent home immediately and the president of the United States should sever diplomatic relations for a period of time.” The pastor at Prejean's church also condemned Duncan's comments. The Rev. Miles McPherson stated: "You cannot say it was a joke. The man is a leading politician who may soon have great government power. Murder is murder in any context." Responding to the controversy, Duncan said in an interview in a London newspaper, The Independent: "I'm sure she's very beautiful and that if we were to meet we would love each other. I have no plans to kill her. I'll send her a box of chocolates – unpoisoned" [2] Matthew Bell, the reporter for the Independent, commented that Duncan "appeared to have a sense of humour failure." [3]
I have removed the above from the article. It's presented wholly inappropriately: clearly it was not a threat. It was a comment made in the context of a television comedy show. Claiming otherwise is entirely non-neutral. It is certainly not notable enough to include in this article. Exploding Boy ( talk) 19:49, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
References
How is Prejean receiving implants at all relevant to the question of gay marriage? Why is it even mentioned in this article at all? The article doesn't mention any other contestant's breasts, enhanced or otherwise. Just because some bit of trivia makes it into a news(ish) report doesn't mean it's worthy of appearing in Wikipedia. John Darrow ( talk) 07:59, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
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Here is the Spanish article of Miss California USA
Carrie Prejean, for those who want to translate it. I just dont have time.--
Vrysxy
¡Californication!
02:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Donald Trump finally fired Miss California USA, Carrie Prejean, over repeated contract violations.
ABC NEWS, June 10, 2009
There will be no more second chances for former Miss California Carrie Prejean. The Miss USA runner-up has officially been fired, this time with the blessing of pageant owner Donald Trump.
Miss California pageant officials said Wednesday that Prejean was fired because of continued breach of contract issues.
“This was a decision based solely on contract violations including Ms. Prejean’s unwillingness to make appearances on behalf of the Miss California USA organization,” executive director Keith Lewis said in a statement sent to ABCNews.com. “After our press conference in New York we had hoped we would be able to forge a better working relationship. However, since that time it has become abundantly clear that Carrie is unwilling to fulfill her obligations under our contract and work together.”
Even Trump, the real estate mogul who co-owns the Miss USA organization and saved Prejean from losing her crown last month, did not stand in the way this time.
“I told Carrie she needed to get back to work and honor her contract with the Miss California USA Organization and I gave her the opportunity to do so,” Trump said in the statement. “Unfortunately it just doesn’t look like it is going to happen and I offered Keith my full support in making this decision. Carrie is a beautiful young woman and I wish her well as she pursues her other interests.”
Prejean’s representative did not respond immediately to requests for comment from ABCNews.com.
Miss California runner-up Tami Farrell will immediately take over the crown and Prejean’s responsibilities as Miss California. The current Miss USA Kristen Dalton and Miss Universe Dayana Mendoza will also lend a hand in making appearances.
Editor’s note: It is expected that the 2nd runner-up at Miss USA 2009, Alicia Monique Blanco of Arizona, steps up to 1st runner-up status, giving her a chance to become Miss USA if Kristen Dalton wins the Miss Universe pageant next August. -- MASWJ ( talk) 02:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
In this article of AP it is clearly said "Because the contestant's scores are supposed to be kept secret, it may never be known whether Prejean would have won had she not drawn Hilton's question." So what is the source of the final scores in this page? I would like to mark it source requested. BTW, I don't think "homophobic" is NPOV here. CnWei ( talk) 23:50, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
This needs to be added to the article. Now.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/04/19/entertainment/e110634D17.DTL
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Special:Contributions/199.8.26.10|199.8.26.10]] ( talk) 20:14, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I would hope after reading this shit (not all, but most, was) up above that it was written BEFORE the media blitz. The bottom line: Conical had it right. So if it had been about interracial marriage, would you people still be shrugging it off and saying it shouldn't be added to the article? Yahoo's front page did a story on it right after the show was over. It was big news. Also, I wasn't asking for a play-by-play of the telecast. Don't be an asshole. Dryamaka, you're basically on probation as it is, right? Oh, and I'm erasing the homophobic bullshit from the anonymous IP, lets keep the site neat and tidy. And that last entry, man, shut up if you don't have anything to contribute, asshole. Anyway, I'm also predicting some fall-out, i.e. Miss California being dropped from endorsement deals (yes even the runners-up get them sometimes). If or when this occurs, it deserves mention, too. -- Ragemanchoo82 ( talk) 02:37, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Regardless of if it's 'homophobic' or 'freedom of religion' (arguments I've seen elsewhere on the Internet), since it's been all over the news, clearly it does deserve to be in the article. 199.8.26.10 ( talk) 04:39, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Not that it matters what I think, but if it had been about interracial marriage, but had not led to any notable coverage, than it should not have been in the article. Just curious: Does anyone know the winner's position on Same-Sex Marriage? 199.8.26.10 ( talk) 04:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Since when is a beauty contest a litmus test for anyones socio-political world views? WTF was this clown thinking when he even asked that question? and GOOD FOR HER that she gave her honest opinion. I would think less of her had she not. It is NOT homophobic ( a misnomer if ever there was one; Phobic=fear, I believe she showed absolutely none ) to state her beliefs wether you agree with them or not. Grow the hell up. Angelus13 ( talk) 13:39, 24 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelus13 ( talk • contribs) 13:22, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Any reason we should include speculation pertaining to Miley Cyrus's twitter account on this page? - Schrandit ( talk) 12:41, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Effective 4/27/09: any comments in 'Discussion' for this article that are not related to the core subject will be deleted in order to clean up a bit. It's become too messy and appears to have strayed quite a ways from the original topic, not to mention this is not a forum. Please keep discussions related to topi(s) of article. Additional headers for topics in the articles will be considered based on validity, as per Wiki rules and standards. Dryamaka ( talk) 19:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
The article section Miss USA 2009#Controversy over gay marriage question is almost exactly redundant with Carrie Prejean#Controversy, the latter of which points to the former as the "main article" on the topic. Should the latter be shortened? How is this redundancy best handled? -- JeredF ( talk) 17:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
No idea where we'll get an official citation for the scores but I've removed it because it mucks up the heading format & looks bad. The scores were obviously shown during the telecast... anyone up for citing that? Not quite sure how it should be done... PageantUpdater talk • contribs 14:27, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Removed the 'contestant gallery' not really needed here, honestly. Especially with only one of the 51 contestants? It looks so weird, stands out, and is basically just an appendix to the list of contestants anyway. 65.215.94.13 ( talk) 19:27, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
On the April 24, 2009, edition of Have I Got News For You, a British MP Alan Duncan was asked his opinion of Prejean's comments on same sex marriage. Duncan replied, "If you read that Miss California has been murdered, you will know it was me, won't you?" [1] Duncan's comments were immediately condemned by various group including Public Advocate president Eugene Delgaudio who stated: "Public Advocate is concerned when government officials from abroad advocate murdering our citizens. The British ambassador in Washington should be sent home immediately and the president of the United States should sever diplomatic relations for a period of time.” The pastor at Prejean's church also condemned Duncan's comments. The Rev. Miles McPherson stated: "You cannot say it was a joke. The man is a leading politician who may soon have great government power. Murder is murder in any context." Responding to the controversy, Duncan said in an interview in a London newspaper, The Independent: "I'm sure she's very beautiful and that if we were to meet we would love each other. I have no plans to kill her. I'll send her a box of chocolates – unpoisoned" [2] Matthew Bell, the reporter for the Independent, commented that Duncan "appeared to have a sense of humour failure." [3]
I have removed the above from the article. It's presented wholly inappropriately: clearly it was not a threat. It was a comment made in the context of a television comedy show. Claiming otherwise is entirely non-neutral. It is certainly not notable enough to include in this article. Exploding Boy ( talk) 19:49, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
References
How is Prejean receiving implants at all relevant to the question of gay marriage? Why is it even mentioned in this article at all? The article doesn't mention any other contestant's breasts, enhanced or otherwise. Just because some bit of trivia makes it into a news(ish) report doesn't mean it's worthy of appearing in Wikipedia. John Darrow ( talk) 07:59, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
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Change Venus Raj to Courtni Hall Source: https://www.journalreview.com/stories/southmont-grad-crowned-miss-indiana-usa,57997
Change Miss Indiana's height to 5'3" and her notes to being Miss Indiana Teen USA 2004. Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20050216112531/http://www.missteenusa.com/delegates/2004/files/IN.html
Change Miss Indiana's hometown from Evansville to Crawfordsville. Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20221005013021/https://www.pageantupdate.info/miss-usa-2009-almanac.html SMRogers90 ( talk) 13:43, 19 August 2023 (UTC)