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The image at the entre of the article, depicts the Gross Domestic product of North and South Korea, as opposed to GDP growth, or GDP percent growth. The graph makes it look like growth was quickest after South Korea became a democracy, it was fastest according to the world bank, during the 17 year reign of Park Chung Hee. See here: google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_kd_zg&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=world&idim=world:Earth&idim=country:KOR:PRK&ifdim=world&hl=en_US&dl=en_US&ind=false Hong kuslauski ( talk) 21:03, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps it could be replaced, or else a second image added, which depicts percentage growth of South Korea, with or without North Korea for comparison. Hong kuslauski ( talk) 21:03, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
I am not sure where is best to put this.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.19.244 ( talk) 02:26, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
The link to Seoul becomes the "Miracle on the Han" is no longer available. I'm not sure of the correct protocol in this case. Do I just delete the link? Or annotate it as broken?
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11:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
This page was a bit too nationalistic. It reads like a poor translation of a nationalistic children's textbook. I've removed some slogans and replaced some phrases with more neutral phrases with the same meaning. For example, a trade surplus is not an "achievement", it can have negative as well as positive qualities and can be seen as a sign of an underdeveloped consumer market as much as an exemplary export market. I've also removed allusions to how the imposition of travel restrictions during the 1997 economic crisis "shows the greatness of Korea" I have referred to the country as "South Korea" since the northern half of the peninsula has not enjoyed much of an economic miracle. I have removed or toned down references to Korea's hosting of athletic events, since their economic importance is largely symbolic.
Here is a more radical proposed rewrite. I will wait until consensus before implementing it: Miracle on the Han River refers to the stunning economic growth of South Korea begun by the junta of Park Chung Hee in 1961 and continuing to the present. In this time, South Korea has risen from one of the poorest countries in the world to a developed member of the OECD. For more information, see Economy of South Korea.
The Economy of South Korea article is vastly superior to this one. David s graff 12:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Is it me, or half the article is a panegiric of Korea's various military juntas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.152.131.101 ( talk) 15:27, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
This article does not mention and completely ignores a multitude of other factors that helped propel South Korea to a major economic power. For instance, the massive compensation paid by the government of Japan to South Korea after the signing of the Treaty on Basic Relations between Japan and the ROK. Instead the article makes it look as if the ROK managed this on its own - which is entirely false. 96.55.113.54 ( talk) 03:35, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
This paragraph: He led South Korea to the first economic boom, thanks to the implementation of an important land reform. This provided for the redistribution of land, thus removing a potentially problematic social issue. is very unclear. What did this land reform do? How did the land reform remove a problematic social issue? What are the potential problematic social issues that arise from land reform? If anyone can answer these questions I can finish editing that paragraph.
This other paragraph is also ambiguous: However, this 5-year plan did not bring about an immediate self-reliant economy. There was a rapid period of growth out of this policy. The ambitious plan had simply looked for better policies in modernizing and preparing for long-term economic success. The government's efforts were designed to bring about policy reform.[6]
The paragraph is disjointed. Specifically, it's not clear to me what the government's plans have anything to do with the 5-year plan. The paragraph starts by talking about how the economy did not become self reliant, then ends with talking about policies. If anyone can point out a connection between the government's plans and the initial success of the 5-year plan, I can also finish writing this paragraph
If any original author(s) are reading this, please take this as constructive criticism. I am here to improve the article to the best of my abilities. Kind regards BBAmp ( talk) 10:02, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Although I am a fairly regular Wiki contributor I am remaining anonymous for now as I am in South Korea and have some concern for being identified, which may result in harassment for being less than absolutely flattering of the country. In the article I have attempted to tone down the jingoism and re-organize and copy-edit sections, and I have added a new section on challenges to the term itself. I'll be happy to respond to suggestions or criticisms if it's felt that I've edited too strongly.
I am currently working on organisation and copy editing of this article, focusing on merging many of the sections, removing independent synthesis of research, and working on grammar. There were a few sections where meaning was unclear, and rather than removing them completely, I have put them here so that anyone who can elucidate can put them back in the article:
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Is it known who first coined the phrase? From what I've seen in a few sources, the phrase "Miracle on the Rhein" is largely a Korean thing; most other use "Wirtschaftswunder", so the origin is likely Korean. toobigtokale ( talk) 00:10, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
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The image at the entre of the article, depicts the Gross Domestic product of North and South Korea, as opposed to GDP growth, or GDP percent growth. The graph makes it look like growth was quickest after South Korea became a democracy, it was fastest according to the world bank, during the 17 year reign of Park Chung Hee. See here: google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_kd_zg&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=world&idim=world:Earth&idim=country:KOR:PRK&ifdim=world&hl=en_US&dl=en_US&ind=false Hong kuslauski ( talk) 21:03, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps it could be replaced, or else a second image added, which depicts percentage growth of South Korea, with or without North Korea for comparison. Hong kuslauski ( talk) 21:03, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
I am not sure where is best to put this.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.19.244 ( talk) 02:26, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
The link to Seoul becomes the "Miracle on the Han" is no longer available. I'm not sure of the correct protocol in this case. Do I just delete the link? Or annotate it as broken?
--
Frazmi
11:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
This page was a bit too nationalistic. It reads like a poor translation of a nationalistic children's textbook. I've removed some slogans and replaced some phrases with more neutral phrases with the same meaning. For example, a trade surplus is not an "achievement", it can have negative as well as positive qualities and can be seen as a sign of an underdeveloped consumer market as much as an exemplary export market. I've also removed allusions to how the imposition of travel restrictions during the 1997 economic crisis "shows the greatness of Korea" I have referred to the country as "South Korea" since the northern half of the peninsula has not enjoyed much of an economic miracle. I have removed or toned down references to Korea's hosting of athletic events, since their economic importance is largely symbolic.
Here is a more radical proposed rewrite. I will wait until consensus before implementing it: Miracle on the Han River refers to the stunning economic growth of South Korea begun by the junta of Park Chung Hee in 1961 and continuing to the present. In this time, South Korea has risen from one of the poorest countries in the world to a developed member of the OECD. For more information, see Economy of South Korea.
The Economy of South Korea article is vastly superior to this one. David s graff 12:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Is it me, or half the article is a panegiric of Korea's various military juntas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.152.131.101 ( talk) 15:27, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
This article does not mention and completely ignores a multitude of other factors that helped propel South Korea to a major economic power. For instance, the massive compensation paid by the government of Japan to South Korea after the signing of the Treaty on Basic Relations between Japan and the ROK. Instead the article makes it look as if the ROK managed this on its own - which is entirely false. 96.55.113.54 ( talk) 03:35, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
This paragraph: He led South Korea to the first economic boom, thanks to the implementation of an important land reform. This provided for the redistribution of land, thus removing a potentially problematic social issue. is very unclear. What did this land reform do? How did the land reform remove a problematic social issue? What are the potential problematic social issues that arise from land reform? If anyone can answer these questions I can finish editing that paragraph.
This other paragraph is also ambiguous: However, this 5-year plan did not bring about an immediate self-reliant economy. There was a rapid period of growth out of this policy. The ambitious plan had simply looked for better policies in modernizing and preparing for long-term economic success. The government's efforts were designed to bring about policy reform.[6]
The paragraph is disjointed. Specifically, it's not clear to me what the government's plans have anything to do with the 5-year plan. The paragraph starts by talking about how the economy did not become self reliant, then ends with talking about policies. If anyone can point out a connection between the government's plans and the initial success of the 5-year plan, I can also finish writing this paragraph
If any original author(s) are reading this, please take this as constructive criticism. I am here to improve the article to the best of my abilities. Kind regards BBAmp ( talk) 10:02, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Although I am a fairly regular Wiki contributor I am remaining anonymous for now as I am in South Korea and have some concern for being identified, which may result in harassment for being less than absolutely flattering of the country. In the article I have attempted to tone down the jingoism and re-organize and copy-edit sections, and I have added a new section on challenges to the term itself. I'll be happy to respond to suggestions or criticisms if it's felt that I've edited too strongly.
I am currently working on organisation and copy editing of this article, focusing on merging many of the sections, removing independent synthesis of research, and working on grammar. There were a few sections where meaning was unclear, and rather than removing them completely, I have put them here so that anyone who can elucidate can put them back in the article:
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Is it known who first coined the phrase? From what I've seen in a few sources, the phrase "Miracle on the Rhein" is largely a Korean thing; most other use "Wirtschaftswunder", so the origin is likely Korean. toobigtokale ( talk) 00:10, 5 August 2023 (UTC)