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A fact from Millard Naylor appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 29 March 2024 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that due to segregation, coach Millard Naylor's high school football team needed to play out-of-state opponents for his first 19 seasons?
@
FloridaArmy: Added his undefeated seasons; the coach who passed him as Dan Ritter (see
here (source paywalled)); as for "notable" players, several articles made it seem like he had prominent players, though I note many listed (see later in post) do not have articles. Do you think there'd be a better word than "notable".
This article has a list: "Bill Lewis, now a health officer for the Wilmington Board of Health, played on Morgan College's great team ...
Willard S. Jones ... Lacey Jackson, all-CIAA end; Millard Naylor Jr., starred at Johnson C. Smith ... Wendell Brown, played at Lincoln; Gator Lewis was a kicking and passing ace at Maryland State ... in basketball and baseball: Smut Johnson, Moose Clark, Winny Ford, Edd Loper, Joe Redding, Big John Benson, and Joe Ward". I also saw a mention somewhere of him coaching judge
Leonard L. Williams, who seems pretty prominent and probably deserving of an article.
BeanieFan11 (
talk)
16:09, 25 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
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ALT1: ... that Millard Naylor founded his high school's football team but had no money, and thus they had to use a single
ball for four years, which needed polishing every week? Source:
The News Journal
ALT2: ... that due to segregation, coach Millard Naylor's high school football team could only play out-of-state opponents for his first 19 seasons? Source: same News Journal piece
Other problems: - I'll focus on ALT2, as it seems the most interesting. The part "could only play out-of-state opponents" does not appear to be supported by the current sources. It's not definitive that there weren't other black schools in-state that they played, even if they went outside for others.
@
Bagumba: QPQ done. As for the ALT2 hook, the source states that "Before [the white schools] agreed to play Mr. Naylor's teams, he was forced to bus his players out of state to play teams from other black high schools." Could be misreading, but that seems to imply to me that he was only able to play against out-of-state teams? Thoughts?
BeanieFan11 (
talk)
21:52, 21 March 2024 (UTC)reply
@
BeanieFan11: The source doesn't say that they exclusively played out-of-state opponents. Hypothetically, if they played 2 in state and 6 out, that quote would still be true. Barring another source, the hook could say something like "could only playneeded to play out-of-state opponents".—
Bagumba (
talk)
00:44, 22 March 2024 (UTC)reply
@
BeanieFan11:: I had seen that source before, but it still leaves open the possibility that there was another school outside their county but still within the state that they could have played some games with.—
Bagumba (
talk)
17:25, 22 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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A fact from Millard Naylor appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 29 March 2024 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that due to segregation, coach Millard Naylor's high school football team needed to play out-of-state opponents for his first 19 seasons?
@
FloridaArmy: Added his undefeated seasons; the coach who passed him as Dan Ritter (see
here (source paywalled)); as for "notable" players, several articles made it seem like he had prominent players, though I note many listed (see later in post) do not have articles. Do you think there'd be a better word than "notable".
This article has a list: "Bill Lewis, now a health officer for the Wilmington Board of Health, played on Morgan College's great team ...
Willard S. Jones ... Lacey Jackson, all-CIAA end; Millard Naylor Jr., starred at Johnson C. Smith ... Wendell Brown, played at Lincoln; Gator Lewis was a kicking and passing ace at Maryland State ... in basketball and baseball: Smut Johnson, Moose Clark, Winny Ford, Edd Loper, Joe Redding, Big John Benson, and Joe Ward". I also saw a mention somewhere of him coaching judge
Leonard L. Williams, who seems pretty prominent and probably deserving of an article.
BeanieFan11 (
talk)
16:09, 25 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
ALT1: ... that Millard Naylor founded his high school's football team but had no money, and thus they had to use a single
ball for four years, which needed polishing every week? Source:
The News Journal
ALT2: ... that due to segregation, coach Millard Naylor's high school football team could only play out-of-state opponents for his first 19 seasons? Source: same News Journal piece
Other problems: - I'll focus on ALT2, as it seems the most interesting. The part "could only play out-of-state opponents" does not appear to be supported by the current sources. It's not definitive that there weren't other black schools in-state that they played, even if they went outside for others.
@
Bagumba: QPQ done. As for the ALT2 hook, the source states that "Before [the white schools] agreed to play Mr. Naylor's teams, he was forced to bus his players out of state to play teams from other black high schools." Could be misreading, but that seems to imply to me that he was only able to play against out-of-state teams? Thoughts?
BeanieFan11 (
talk)
21:52, 21 March 2024 (UTC)reply
@
BeanieFan11: The source doesn't say that they exclusively played out-of-state opponents. Hypothetically, if they played 2 in state and 6 out, that quote would still be true. Barring another source, the hook could say something like "could only playneeded to play out-of-state opponents".—
Bagumba (
talk)
00:44, 22 March 2024 (UTC)reply
@
BeanieFan11:: I had seen that source before, but it still leaves open the possibility that there was another school outside their county but still within the state that they could have played some games with.—
Bagumba (
talk)
17:25, 22 March 2024 (UTC)reply