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The Kicks and Rittinger constant calculation requires reference. I haven't found an article which states the same relationship. Looks 'fishy' Wilhelmjacob ( talk) 20:39, 26 April 2016 (UTC)WJ
I think that this article and grinder (milling) should be merged since they appear to be the same thing. -- Kjkolb 12:51, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
As someone that works with Mills I think that is a good idea. I think it would be closer to commonly used terminology if you went with the title Mill (Grinding) as no one I am aware of calls them "grinders". Hope to maybe oneday update this section on Minerals Processing.
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This stuff definitely needs merging and more detail needs to be added. Recommend we use the Mill (grinding) as the main and use the Grinder (mill) as a redirect. Chris 21:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Done - Soime one appears to have undertaken the suggested merge. Thank you. Peterkingiron 16:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Some of the cross-references at the end appear to sit incongruously alongside the content. I do not quite see where grinding between two millstones (as in a conr mill) or under an edge runner as in an olive or cider mill fit inot the pattern described. Could some one please think about this? Peterkingiron 16:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Two images of a groundwood grinder available at Commons. Failed to understand whether they fit the format of the article (I am not an ingeneur), so I place them here meanwhile. Alexei Kouprianov 14:12, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I am curious as to how much power a SAG Mill uses (KW). If someone could expand on the SAG mill section of this article, it would be great! Wipware ( talk) 17:59, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
What is this reference in the discription of a ball mill that says "drawing approximately 0.0011% of the total world's power (see List of countries by electricity consumption)". I don't see anything on the List of countries by electricity consumption that has anything to do with percentage of use by groups of machines. This seems very bizzare. Chickpeana ( talk) 09:20, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. After 22 days and a relisting (long enough for more relistings), consensus eludes us. As usual with a no consensus decision, there is no prejudice toward future efforts of editors to seek the highest and best titles for these pages. Happy New Year to All! ( closed by page mover) Paine Ellsworth put'r there 04:05, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
– The content at Mill (grinding) almost seems like a WP:DABCONCEPT article for the majority of the subjects listed at Mill, the disambiguation page. In turn, that essentially means that the subject at Mill (grinding) is the primary topic for the word "Mill". Steel1943 ( talk) 17:43, 20 December 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. bd2412 T 19:36, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
In spite of a great number of studies in the field of fracture schemes there is no formula known which connects the technical grinding work with grinding results. To calculate the needed grinding work against the grain size changing three half-empirical models are used. These can be related to the Hukki relationship between particle size and the energy required to break the particles. In stirred mills, the Hukki relationship does not apply and instead, experimentation has to be performed to determine any relationship.
with W as grinding work in kJ/kg, c as grinding coefficient, dA as grain size of the source material and dE as grain size of the ground material.
A reliable value for the grain sizes dA and dE is d80. This value signifies that 80% (mass) of the solid matter has a smaller grain size. The Bond's grinding coefficient for different materials can be found in various literature. To calculate the KICK's and Rittinger's coefficients following formulas can be used
with the limits of Bond's range: upper dBU = 50 mm and lower dBL = 0.05 mm.
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The Aunt_Jemima article links to this article. In that article, the phrase "Rutt and Underwood's "Pearl Milling Company" utilized a pearl milling technique to produce flour, cornmeal, ..." has the word "milling" linked here.
But this article does not mention pearl milling, and does not contain the word "pearl". One of these two articles would benefit from a clarification. I would do it, but I am also confused by this: "Pearl Milling Company is a nod to the small mill in Missouri that produced the self-rising pancake mix later known as Aunt Jemima in 1889", at https://nypost.com/2021/02/10/critics-slam-aunt-jemimas-new-name-pearl-milling-company/. Maybe the issue is all within the Aunt Jemima article: At Google, I can't find any mention of a "pearl milling technique", so "pearl" might be a town and not a technique... 73.127.147.187 ( talk) 08:10, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
I stumbled on this article while looking for something else and wondered what the heck a Hukki relationship was. I don't know anything about the topic, couldn't find that info in WP, and had a hard time tracking it down elsewhere online. I have WP:BOLDly added this info to the article, reformatting parts of this section in the process. I have added cites, including a cite of the 1961 Hukki paper, which I have not read.
I don't think I screwed anything up here, but I ask editors more familiar with this topic than I to take a look at what I've done and make any needed corrections.
I also stumbled across this figure which would probably be useful in this article. That particular image probably has copyright issues, but perhaps some editor might produce a similar image for insertion here. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
I just saw a reference to a “navicular mill”, but google can’t seem to find anything about it on the internet. See: [1]. It’s possible that this is an mistranslation of a Spanish term. Peter Flass ( talk) 13:29, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
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The Kicks and Rittinger constant calculation requires reference. I haven't found an article which states the same relationship. Looks 'fishy' Wilhelmjacob ( talk) 20:39, 26 April 2016 (UTC)WJ
I think that this article and grinder (milling) should be merged since they appear to be the same thing. -- Kjkolb 12:51, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
As someone that works with Mills I think that is a good idea. I think it would be closer to commonly used terminology if you went with the title Mill (Grinding) as no one I am aware of calls them "grinders". Hope to maybe oneday update this section on Minerals Processing.
121.44.125.54
14:24, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
This stuff definitely needs merging and more detail needs to be added. Recommend we use the Mill (grinding) as the main and use the Grinder (mill) as a redirect. Chris 21:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Done - Soime one appears to have undertaken the suggested merge. Thank you. Peterkingiron 16:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Some of the cross-references at the end appear to sit incongruously alongside the content. I do not quite see where grinding between two millstones (as in a conr mill) or under an edge runner as in an olive or cider mill fit inot the pattern described. Could some one please think about this? Peterkingiron 16:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Two images of a groundwood grinder available at Commons. Failed to understand whether they fit the format of the article (I am not an ingeneur), so I place them here meanwhile. Alexei Kouprianov 14:12, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I am curious as to how much power a SAG Mill uses (KW). If someone could expand on the SAG mill section of this article, it would be great! Wipware ( talk) 17:59, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
What is this reference in the discription of a ball mill that says "drawing approximately 0.0011% of the total world's power (see List of countries by electricity consumption)". I don't see anything on the List of countries by electricity consumption that has anything to do with percentage of use by groups of machines. This seems very bizzare. Chickpeana ( talk) 09:20, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. After 22 days and a relisting (long enough for more relistings), consensus eludes us. As usual with a no consensus decision, there is no prejudice toward future efforts of editors to seek the highest and best titles for these pages. Happy New Year to All! ( closed by page mover) Paine Ellsworth put'r there 04:05, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
– The content at Mill (grinding) almost seems like a WP:DABCONCEPT article for the majority of the subjects listed at Mill, the disambiguation page. In turn, that essentially means that the subject at Mill (grinding) is the primary topic for the word "Mill". Steel1943 ( talk) 17:43, 20 December 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. bd2412 T 19:36, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
In spite of a great number of studies in the field of fracture schemes there is no formula known which connects the technical grinding work with grinding results. To calculate the needed grinding work against the grain size changing three half-empirical models are used. These can be related to the Hukki relationship between particle size and the energy required to break the particles. In stirred mills, the Hukki relationship does not apply and instead, experimentation has to be performed to determine any relationship.
with W as grinding work in kJ/kg, c as grinding coefficient, dA as grain size of the source material and dE as grain size of the ground material.
A reliable value for the grain sizes dA and dE is d80. This value signifies that 80% (mass) of the solid matter has a smaller grain size. The Bond's grinding coefficient for different materials can be found in various literature. To calculate the KICK's and Rittinger's coefficients following formulas can be used
with the limits of Bond's range: upper dBU = 50 mm and lower dBL = 0.05 mm.
...to find out they are in the wrong place. — AjaxSmack 20:28, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
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The Aunt_Jemima article links to this article. In that article, the phrase "Rutt and Underwood's "Pearl Milling Company" utilized a pearl milling technique to produce flour, cornmeal, ..." has the word "milling" linked here.
But this article does not mention pearl milling, and does not contain the word "pearl". One of these two articles would benefit from a clarification. I would do it, but I am also confused by this: "Pearl Milling Company is a nod to the small mill in Missouri that produced the self-rising pancake mix later known as Aunt Jemima in 1889", at https://nypost.com/2021/02/10/critics-slam-aunt-jemimas-new-name-pearl-milling-company/. Maybe the issue is all within the Aunt Jemima article: At Google, I can't find any mention of a "pearl milling technique", so "pearl" might be a town and not a technique... 73.127.147.187 ( talk) 08:10, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
I stumbled on this article while looking for something else and wondered what the heck a Hukki relationship was. I don't know anything about the topic, couldn't find that info in WP, and had a hard time tracking it down elsewhere online. I have WP:BOLDly added this info to the article, reformatting parts of this section in the process. I have added cites, including a cite of the 1961 Hukki paper, which I have not read.
I don't think I screwed anything up here, but I ask editors more familiar with this topic than I to take a look at what I've done and make any needed corrections.
I also stumbled across this figure which would probably be useful in this article. That particular image probably has copyright issues, but perhaps some editor might produce a similar image for insertion here. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
I just saw a reference to a “navicular mill”, but google can’t seem to find anything about it on the internet. See: [1]. It’s possible that this is an mistranslation of a Spanish term. Peter Flass ( talk) 13:29, 27 February 2023 (UTC)