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I am child psychiatrist and psychotherapist (in Italy) with experience in working with people with autism and their families. I read only now Michelle Dawson’s articol, quoted by wikipedia. I want congratulate with her and agree with most of herr writings. Particularly where she puts the question of parents, i.e. family enviroment, that became a taboo, forbidden to speak about, because of the movement against Bettelheim. Working with families and children with all kinds of behaviour ang development difficulties, we see that family disfunctioning (that is not a blame, a sin, because noone of us is perfect, not even as a parent) may product suffering and disorders in all members, and of course in growing children. When family can be helped to change some disfunctioning aspect of their organization and relationships, we often see things go better. I saw that often also with families with an autistic child. All parents may have problems towars a child (not all sons, maybe only one). Often the mothers are more entangled in that, often because fathers are absent or faraway: they may be entangled in labirinths with their son (do you remember Munchausen by proxy?). Family and relations with parents are most important for all people. Also for autistic children. Often we see disfunctions in theyr relationships and family organization. We have not to avoid to adress this topic, in order to help they going on, not in order to blame them
Before we get into edit wars - even if the time between revisions is great - I feel that the web link which was removed does give valuable information to parents and friends of sufferers. I see no harm in keeping it, some good in keeping it, so I would like to know in some more detail why you feel it is necessary to remove it. I would like to see what User:Species8471 has to say about this - I see you have contributed regularly to topics on autism so I do assume good faith and am genuinely curious - WP:AGF. I am also a doctor, but not specialised in autism. docboat 09:59, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I added a link to a facsimile of the Ottawa Citizen article. The title is "Autism reconsidered", not "Autism", even if that is the title of the online version (OCR error?). Makes more sense too. How should it be listed in References? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.162.42.176 ( talk) 15:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Some of the papers listed on the French language page were written & published by a different "Michelle Dawson". I'm not sure how to fix it since I don't speak French. All I can suggest is that someone delete the papers that do not appear on the English version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.49.116.189 ( talk) 15:50, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
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Two sentences near the beginning of the article stated that she joined Laurent Mottron's research team in 2003:
"Since 2003, she has worked as an autism researcher[3][4] affiliated with the Autism Specialized Clinic of Hôpital Rivière-des-Prairies in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.[5]"
"In 2003, Dawson joined Laurent Mottron's research team.[6][7]"
The 2003 date is incorrect, I have changed it to the correct date which is 2004.
Checking all 5 references above to see which date they support showed:
The first 3 references say nothing about when she joined.
The fourth reference is to a long article in The Ottawa Citizen Saturday Observer, 12-01-2007, "Autism Reconsidered". The relevant quote from this article is: "In 2004, Mottron asked Dawson to contribute to a book he was writing and, later, invited her to join his research team. She accepted both offers." This indicates she joined the research team in 2004 or later.
The fifth reference is currently a dead link.
The information on the Ordre de Montréal site (currently reference [14]) says: "Since 2004, she has been affiliated with the Université de Montréal’s autism research group."
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I am child psychiatrist and psychotherapist (in Italy) with experience in working with people with autism and their families. I read only now Michelle Dawson’s articol, quoted by wikipedia. I want congratulate with her and agree with most of herr writings. Particularly where she puts the question of parents, i.e. family enviroment, that became a taboo, forbidden to speak about, because of the movement against Bettelheim. Working with families and children with all kinds of behaviour ang development difficulties, we see that family disfunctioning (that is not a blame, a sin, because noone of us is perfect, not even as a parent) may product suffering and disorders in all members, and of course in growing children. When family can be helped to change some disfunctioning aspect of their organization and relationships, we often see things go better. I saw that often also with families with an autistic child. All parents may have problems towars a child (not all sons, maybe only one). Often the mothers are more entangled in that, often because fathers are absent or faraway: they may be entangled in labirinths with their son (do you remember Munchausen by proxy?). Family and relations with parents are most important for all people. Also for autistic children. Often we see disfunctions in theyr relationships and family organization. We have not to avoid to adress this topic, in order to help they going on, not in order to blame them
Before we get into edit wars - even if the time between revisions is great - I feel that the web link which was removed does give valuable information to parents and friends of sufferers. I see no harm in keeping it, some good in keeping it, so I would like to know in some more detail why you feel it is necessary to remove it. I would like to see what User:Species8471 has to say about this - I see you have contributed regularly to topics on autism so I do assume good faith and am genuinely curious - WP:AGF. I am also a doctor, but not specialised in autism. docboat 09:59, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I added a link to a facsimile of the Ottawa Citizen article. The title is "Autism reconsidered", not "Autism", even if that is the title of the online version (OCR error?). Makes more sense too. How should it be listed in References? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.162.42.176 ( talk) 15:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Some of the papers listed on the French language page were written & published by a different "Michelle Dawson". I'm not sure how to fix it since I don't speak French. All I can suggest is that someone delete the papers that do not appear on the English version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.49.116.189 ( talk) 15:50, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
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Two sentences near the beginning of the article stated that she joined Laurent Mottron's research team in 2003:
"Since 2003, she has worked as an autism researcher[3][4] affiliated with the Autism Specialized Clinic of Hôpital Rivière-des-Prairies in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.[5]"
"In 2003, Dawson joined Laurent Mottron's research team.[6][7]"
The 2003 date is incorrect, I have changed it to the correct date which is 2004.
Checking all 5 references above to see which date they support showed:
The first 3 references say nothing about when she joined.
The fourth reference is to a long article in The Ottawa Citizen Saturday Observer, 12-01-2007, "Autism Reconsidered". The relevant quote from this article is: "In 2004, Mottron asked Dawson to contribute to a book he was writing and, later, invited her to join his research team. She accepted both offers." This indicates she joined the research team in 2004 or later.
The fifth reference is currently a dead link.
The information on the Ordre de Montréal site (currently reference [14]) says: "Since 2004, she has been affiliated with the Université de Montréal’s autism research group."