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Seeing as this page is primarily a guide to the Metroid series, and links to a specific page about Super Metroid, perhaps this page should be renamed "Metroid_(series)", as used an umbrella page. What does everyone think? Adam Conover 01:38, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
Let me say, whoever did the consolidation for the Metroid series of articles really mucked things up. There is not enough detail in this article to cover everything. Items in the Metroid Series no longer exists, and that was (as I mentioned below) the longest and most detailed article in the entire set of articles. This main article is not long enough, and does not contain enough information, and adding the rest of the information to this article would clutter it up, which is why the other articles existed in the first place. Some of the side articles didn't need to exist, sure, but why take out the Items article? Shralla 08:10, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Is it just me or is the over all theme of the Metriod series is man VS nature? Also the series seems more like Space Opera then Sci-Fi to me. Zerath13
I think I like that plan. What says everyone about the Metroids themselves having their own entry, also?
Is it permissible to add the informations like this? Relating to METROID name exists METROID TEAM, a famous video-game group with international highlights. To add and increases the The Free Dictionary and the Wikipedia Enciclopedia, is valid to agree informations like this. For further informations, follow a couple of fonts to be consulted.
http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=59&kw=metroid (or on www.twingalaxies.com -> Search -> Metroid -> Articles ) --- A lot of texts, links and championship results including Metroid Team. Main links: 8/17/2001 Daily Californian, Salinas, California 3/13/2002 Brazilian Dominates Wacky Races 8/20/2001 Bios for Brazil's Metroid Team 8/23/2001 Brazil's Metroid Team Appears in USA Newspaper 7/27/2001 Metroid Team Big Hit with Crazy Taxi 7/27/1999 Brazilian Players Make PSX High-scores
http://www.twingalaxies.com/cgi-perl/Crazy_Taxi_World_Championship.pl --- Crazy Taxi (Dreamcast) Twingalaxies World Championship;
http://www.twingalaxies.com/cgi-perl/Crazy_Taxi_2_Newsletter_Final.pl --- Crazy Taxi 2 (Dreamcast) Twingalaxies World Championship
http://www.twingalaxies.com/cgi-perl/Wave_Race_Newsletter_Final.pl --- Wave Race 64 (Nintendo64) Twingalaxies World Championship
http://www.twingalaxies.com/cgi-perl/breaking_news4.pl --- Look for Player Profiles. Look for Player Interviews.
http://www.californianonline.com/news/stories/20010817/localnews/885350.html --- "If you need to lose to someone, make it Equipe Metroid." Californian (USA) newspaper with Metroid Team highlights;
http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/equipemetroid/ --- in Portuguese.
http://an.uol.com.br/1999/dez/10/0cid.htm http://an.uol.com.br/1999/dez/18/ http://an.uol.com.br/1999/dez/18/0ane.htm --- "A NOTÍCIA", Brazilian newsletter (and online newsletter) of great importance, about National Championship. In Portuguese.
http://www.twingalaxies.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1286&sid=7709c58c380e1e1330b60d5061375e8e or on www.twingalaxies.com -> Forums -> Crazy Bounties -> 1st Crazy Bounty - VERIFIED !! --- Cristiano (Metroid Team) becoming the first player in history to break one videogame challenge, and Won US$100.
http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=122 --- Important videogame board. Player writing and asking about the "famous" Metroid Team. See: "One more thing: I don't know of anyone on the Metroid Team (for any readers who don't know, that's a famous group of top Brazilian gamers)..."
--- And a lot of non-internet based articles, including Brazilians magazines, and international covers and highlights.
Why does everyone want to merge all the side-topics into MP2?
I hope I'm not overstepping my limits or stepping on anyones toes with this, but I noticed that there are a ton of small, highly limited pages about Metroid that aren't really very cohesive. In this spirit, I am consolidating much of the smaller pages into an umbrella page here, as it seemed the best place. The goal there being to make a single useful page rather than dozens of small pages that are difficult to find. So if I'm doing something wrong, please be kind in reprimanding me. An example of what I mean: Previously there was a 'Power Suit' and a 'Power Beam' page. These terms could mean something from another game, anime, book, etc. Besides which, the average person probably won't search 'Power Suit' while thinking of 'Metroid.' By putting it in a single page, all the relevant info is right there at the immediate search term. I noticed also that people had talked about doing this, but not done it... so I took a bit of initiative. Chaz 02:22, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)
Correct me if I'm wrong,it's been an AWFUL long time since I played metroid, but isn't the fact that the major character is female a huge secret? I seem to recall having to complete the game twice before you get to the sequence where the character takes her helmet off. If this is the case, should the article be so upfont about it? Gmaxwell 05:09, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Let me see if I have this straight as far as the timeline/storyline goes:
Does Metroid Prime 2 come before or after Metroid 2? All the article says is "Between Metroid Prime and Metroid Fusion". Where does Hunters fit in?
-- Zxcvbnm 02:25, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
This is from Talk:Metroid: Zero Mission:
Nintendo has created a Metroid Prime 2: Echoes bonus disc that is available from one of three sources: the Metroid Prime re-release bundle, by registering 5 GameCube games online, or as an option when you subscribe to Nintendo Power. The disc includes a playable demo of the game, as well as a "Metroid Chronicles" feature that arranges the games (those that had been released at the time, at least) in a historical timeline. The ordering is as follows:
Zero Mission is placed after Metroid due to the events occuring after Mother Brain's defeat. This is evident from the text descriptions that accompany each game.
Metroid:
Nintendo Entertainment System ( NES ) Release Date: 1989
"A research vessel dispatched by the galactic federation discovers and captures a strange life-form called a "Metroid" on the planet SR-388. However, on its way back to federation HQ, the research vessel is attacked by Space Pirates, who steal the Metroid. Once they discover the Metroid's ability to multiply through beta-ray exposure, the Space Pirates conspire to make use of the Metroids in their plot to take over the universe. To stop them, Samus lands on the planet Zebes and single-handedly destroys their underground base — and their leader Mother Brain — after a series of intense battles."
Zero Mission:
Game Boy Advance ( GBA ) Release Date: Febuary 2004
"In an expanded look at Samus' first mission to Zebes, the bounty hunter heads to Zebes to wipe out the Space Pirate threat. However, this story doesn't end after Samus destroys the Mother Brain — As she escapes the planet, her ship is shot down by Space Pirates and she crash lands on the surface of Zebes, near where the Space Pirate Mother Ship has landed. Having lost her power-suit in the crash, Samus must infiltrate the Space Pirate ship and fight her way off the planet."
I've heard that Hunters occurs between Prime 1 and Prime 2, but I don't remember where I heard that from. -- Poiuyt Man talk 14:16, 25 July 2005 (UTC) It's in Nintendo Power
I have a question about the chronology of the Metroid series, where exactly was the information for the Metroid Zero Mission description found? I noticed the Japanese flash for Metroid Zero Mission was sited, is this the source? If so, is this a direct translation? Darkpulsaromega 03:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm wondering about something, too. In I. Crany's logbook entry in Prime 2, he claims that Angseth said Samus "blew up a planet full of Space Pirates". If this is Zebes, then this seems to imply that Echoes takes place after Super Metroid, which contradicts Nintendo's timeline. Please explain! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.174.66.138 ( talk • contribs) .
The Zero Mission site says that it goes like this: Metroid (/Zero mission) Metroid II: The Return of Samus Super Metroid Metroid Prime Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Metroid Prime: Hunters? Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Metroid Fusion But it was released before Prime 2, but after Prime... 24.7.141.45 —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 04:09, August 26, 2007 (UTC).
Please see Talk:Metroid: Zero Mission, anonymous IP User:68.41.169.128 insists on stating that the game is a prequel, without giving any references. I have not received any response to notices I've placed on the user's talk page, and no edit summaries have been given on the reverts. I'd rather not violate the three-revert rule, so help would be appreciated with this situation. Poiuyt Man talk 8 July 2005 22:43 (UTC)
Additional opinions would be helpful on the talk page, as the only current participants are Dai pher and myself. The argument has quickly grown out of control, and doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything. I can't defend the page alone; a consensus needs to be reached to determine the article's content. -- Poiuyt Man talk 23:11, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
There is now a poll at the bottom of Talk:Metroid: Zero Mission, regarding whether Metroid: Zero Mission should be considered to be a re-telling/remake or prequel of Metroid. Please vote to help us establish a consensus. -- Poiuyt Man talk 05:50, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Some comments about my last edit:
Fredrik | talk 20:30, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
People around here may be interested in the Metroid Wikicity. It has plenty of room for fancruft and strategy guides... perhaps even fan fiction. Some of the Wikipedia articles on Metroid locations and characters would probably be better placed there. Fredrik | talk 02:12, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
So, has it pretty much been confirmed that Metroid Dread has been cancelled? If so, should it be removed from the "upcoming" section of the series template and be merged into the main Metroid series article? ~ Hibana 21:31, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Why the hell is there no article on them? I am not an expert but What. The. F9!
I wanted to find that "Screw Attack S" to put in the page, and I found one... but is kind of small. What do you think? igordebraga ≠ 00:48, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I'm starting to get really ticked off about this shinespark thing. How do you do it, where do you do it, and can somebody please tell me in detail? I would really like to know how, because I love easter eggs and the like, but I can't find it *sigh*. Okay, it's been about 13 hours since I typed that last sentence, I've been looking for the shinespark thing, and still can't find it. Somebody tell me!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.166.78.43 ( talk • contribs) 16:18, May 2, 2006
I've never heard it called shinespark. ąIf you would read its originaly called Super Jump. Its what happens after you run with the speedbooster upgrade and crouch while glowing. At that moment you can do a number of super jumps, like diagonal which i have always known as being called Spineshank. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.29.241.82 ( talk) 22:13, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Clarifying my edit of the comment "The Metroid games are particularly associated with nonlinear gameplay, which was pioneered by the first installment in the series"; Examples of non-linear games prior to Metroid (August, 1986) include games such as Legend of Zelda (February 1986) and Tunnels of Doom (1982). Druff 21:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
I think the description of the Metroid Prime Hunters part at least is far too POV. I personally found the single player mode very entertaining and didn't see anything rushed about it. Most reviews agree with me. Further, it took them almost 3 years to make that game with nintendo pushing back a late 2005 release date in response to fans who insisted they wanted an internet multiplayer mode. Thus, if anything, it should be the internet multiplayer part that seems rushed. I understand that longtime fans might dislike the FPS gameplay compared to what was standard in all past Metroid games, and that should be in the article. The other opinions have little basis.
Gamefaqs has an anti-leech mechanism set up, you can do what some articles do and mention that it requires a cut and paste of the URL, or find another source.-- BigCow 20:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Anyone else think we should get a wikiproject together? I watch all the metroid pages, but I think there are enough articles to justify starting a wikiproject to make them more uniform, and to create a forum for ideas about the future of the articles. Digital Watches 02:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I want to suggest merging Metroid (film) into this page. As it stands now, the info in the film page is identical to the paragraph in the "Franchise Spin-offs" section of the series page, with the exception of one line dedicated towards John Woo. That line could easily be put in the series page, and the film page trashed for now. The film page should certainly come back later on, if the movie starts production and more info begins flowing, but until then, it just seems like a waste of space. Arrow 21:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree, it is a waste of space. -- Dr. Pizza 17:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, sounds like a good idea. The separate page for just a few sentences when it would easily fit in the main Metroid series page is a waste. - ChaosMaster 11:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
What ChaosMaster said. Metakraid 21:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I admit that I have no sources to back this up, but I thought that Metroid was very unpopular in Japan, and only had decent sales in the U.S. (That would explain why the Metroid Prime triology is developed by a company in Austin, Texas, and why more recent Metroid games are released in the US or UK before they are anywhere else). Can anyone give me sales figures to disprove or back up what I just said? -- 69.241.228.117 21:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, so there's Third/Fourth Generations of Video Games and Fifth/Sixth Generations of Video Games, so why is there no details on Seventh Generation of Video Games when Corruption has been confirmed and there are already details on it? Cipher ( Yell) 21:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Would anyone object if I wrote an article on the secret worlds? I did this for the first game and it was deleted. Would it be acceptable here if it was written in an encylopedic manor? And would anyone be willing to contribute? I am only knowledgable about the secret worlds in the first few games (or lack of, namely Super Metroid). Kinch82 10:28, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I was checking on IMDB's page for the Metroid movie and it's gone. With the Transformer movie just now showing up, I wouldn't doubt if they just do the Metroid movie later.
The section on the Shinespark move, though extensive enough in examples and history of the move, does not seem to give a clear and concise explanation of what the move actually is, or how it functions. Perhaps someone who knows more about it than me, could add a short (maybe just single line) explanation of the move at the start of the paragraph, to give some more context for the rest of the text. Thanks in advance to anyone who can do that. Frostlion 22:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
I think its already described the best it can be. As the super jump and aura your able to preform once you run with the speed booster upgrade. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.29.241.82 ( talk) 22:15, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
I think it would make much more sense to link materials like Bendezium and Brinstone to Fictional chemical substances rather than here, as they are never mentioned in this particular article. 71.87.113.191 00:16, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Just doesn't sound right for an encyclopedia Wii2-13 01:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Gametrailers.com has started a Metroid Retrospective ( here ) They've only completed 2 of the 5 planned parts, but so far it's an excellent and informative retrospective, everyone agree that it should (perhaps once 5 parts completed?) be added to the external links section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.120.37 ( talk • contribs)
Metroid Dread has been merged her, per this AfD result. Interested users may also like to look through Talk:Metroid Dread.
I've placed the text as a subheader of 'Release history', further cleanup/integration maybe required. Someone may also like to remove the references that link to forums, per WP:EL. Marasmusine 08:15, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I know it's very difficult, but maybe, if we all work together [/cheesy] we could get a Metroid related article to featured article status in time for August 27? Currently the only Good Article is Metroid Prime, which fits very nicely considering MP3 is the last in the trilogy and MP1 is the first. It was just an idea I had. ShadowUltra 21:33, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Currently the page has several objects that Samus uses linked to the objects in the metroid series page, which re-directs back here which has very little on the power ups she uses. Was the page for her power ups deleted? Because I remember it being here a while back. Edit: Forgot to sign my post Tensa Zangetsu 19:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I did lot of that awhile ago, I stopped because I thought ihad gotten at least 75% of it. Guess not. Here's to my second run. DurinsBane87 08:27, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Since there seems to be many disputes over this, let's clear them up: Mother Brain - In the early games, it was the leader of the Space Pirates, but that ha since been retconned. It's now just a biomechanical computer.
Kraid - No information has been given about Kraid's role. Calling him a general of some kind is mere speculation.
Ridley - Leader of the Space Pirates. Although that was obviously not his original role, Zero Mission makes it very clear that he is now.
So let's quit messing with that section. 75.153.231.20 20:58, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Various areas in the Metroid Series redirect to this page, which has little information about any of them, except for Zebes (which is the only one to have its own page). I think either a new section on this page should talk about the different planets, or a new article should be created altogether. Besides, didn't there used to be one? Trashydrummer 01:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I was looking for the article ScrewAttack by typing in the keyword " Screw Attack", but it redirected me here. Is there a reason for this? I don't know anything about the game Metroid, so I can't say for sure. However, wouldn't it be more appropriate to have Screw Attack redirect to ScrewAttack? If there's some move or anything like that in Metroid, it could be mentioned at the start of the ScrewAttack article, and the reader could be advised to follow a link to this article, if that's what he or she was looking for.
I would do that redirection myself, but I have no idea how important the connection between Metroid and "Screw Attack" is, if at all.
84.248.26.163 01:12, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I seriously think this article, created a month and a half ago, should be nominated for deletion. I'd do it myself, but I'm unfamiliar with the nominating process, and am busy working on other edits at the moment. Arrowned 20:32, 1 October 2007(UTC)
what happened to the Universe of the Metroid series page? its gone and i can't find its talk page!-- Lerdthenerd 19:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I've just got a message telling me the Mother Brain picture I linked to that article has been orphaned! Now what am i supposed to do with it? Should i follow Betacommandbot's advice and recreate the article??-- Lerdthenerd 20:20, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
No. It was deleted for a reason. If you MUST, use deletion review, but I doubt it will work. DurinsBane87 21:24, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I think merging all of the Metroid-related articles here. It was way too drastic of a merge. There should be some seperate articles such as a seperate article for the various items in the series and some for certain characters like one for the Space Pirates (and related characters like Ridley, Kraid and Mother Brain). Unknown Dragon 22:57, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
But now all of the information is clumped together and is no longer informative, these articles should be recreated within the right specifications. Unknown Dragon 20:54, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Deleted due to non-notability? What so essentially there was no reason for them to exist? With that logic there's really no reason for Wikipedia itself to exist. Encyclopedia Britannica and World Book are just as informative. An encyclopedia's about being informative and the articles exist to provide information. I think this is too much of a merge. Maybe 'Space Pirates' should be made into its own article with Ridley, Kraid and Mother brain incorporated under it. —Preceding
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Could someone find a citation talking about the supposed plans for a Metroid game to come the Nintendo 64? Abodos 02:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Also, didn't Gunpei Yokoi intend on ending the franchise at Super Metroid? But after his death, Nintendo decided to bring it back anyway? Abodos 03:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a picture for the Metroid species? As the title characters of the franchise, they ought to have an actual picture on Wikipedia. Abodos 06:13, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I think that a picture of the Metroid logo should be at the top of the page. Logos portray an important symbol for a franchise, and usually sum up all the moods and imagery in one picture. They have the logo for the Legend of Zelda series at the top of its respective article, so why not do the same for Metroid? Abodos 06:13, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I hate to bring up WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, but something's wrong. Every single Metroid article, with the exception of this, Samus, and the articles for the specific games, has been deleted. While one may argue they were cruft, an article exists for numerous minor Kirby characters with no more than a paragraph of information, the same goes for Mario. So, can someone tell me why these articles were all deleted, or should I mark the others for deletion? ShadowUltra 20:38, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I aggree with the OP here. Other games have many articles on very minor ingame things, why can't metroid have articles on at least it's most major ingame aspects. These articles should be recreated. Metroid (Species), Items in Metroid especially so. -- 124.40.47.112 12:42, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a subsection under the Space Pirates about Mother Brain? She is far more notable than Kraid, serving more of a purpose for the plot of the games. Abodos 05:21, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I thought everyone would like to know that the Metroid series article is currently about the same length as-if not longer than- the article on Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. That's a pretty decent achievement if you ask me. Although, picky Wikipedia editors might state how it shouldn't be that long since Star Wars is much more notable than Metroid; but then again, this is an article about broad topics covering an entire series as opposed to specific topics covering a single installment. Keep up the good work, guys!
Also, it might be important to know that the Metroid series article currently has over 50 citations. When I started working on this article around 2 weeks ago, it only had about 12. That's a pretty sizable achievement as well, but I think the article still needs a good deal more references than it has now. Be sure that you don't cite obscure fansites or those that do nothing but speculate on the roles of Ridley or Mother Brain. Also, when citing videos, be sure the videos only show what is relevant to the text that needs the citation; i.e., make sure the video doesn't include the player taking several minutes to reach a boss when all you need info on the boss itself.
Once again, keep up the good work, guys. This article sure is coming along, and will hopefully give enough reliable information to people to get them interested in the actual games. Abodos 05:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Whoever decided to make all those edits to the Phazon subsection- whatever their intentions might have been- really jumbled everything up! The reference from the "Leviathan Infant Scan" was unneccessarily added to the actual article itself, the sentences it replaced were put into the reference spot itself, the first few paragraphs of the Game-play subsection were somehow put down in the reference section, and nearly half the later references were deleted or de-linked! I can hardly tell where to start with the corrections, it's been so messed up!
I need some assistance re-linking the references, putting the paragraphs back where they are supposed to be, and putting references back down with the other references, if at all possible. Abodos 02:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for randomly making your text bold! It made it so easy to read! -- 124.40.47.112 12:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I feel that the "musician" section under Important People needs more information. The "developers" section has some information about those respective people, but the "musician" section just consists of one big list and just some info on how one guy might have or might not have been one of the musicians. Although developers are always the main minds behind the games, that doesn't mean that the music is any less important; these guys deserve more respect! Abodos ( talk) 19:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I feel these 2 sections are too short and need lengthening, as well as a mention of orange Phazon. -- [color=purple]Chykka207[color] ( talk) 19:51, 9 December 2007 (UTC) What Happened to my comment?!
Removed by someone else puzzledly here: ... (which some say sounded like something of a sinister remix of the theme music to the 1966 television show, Mission: Impossible) ... Well, now that it has been pointed out, the Ridley music and MI theme do have kind of similar rhythm. However, I wouldn't endorse this particular addition, because it's not immediately obvious, we don't know if it's intentional, there's no sources, wording "some say" is kind of weaselly and damnable in itself, and, besides, what's the point. It's funny, the music is funny, space dragons are funny, but I don't think a Wikipedia article is supposed to be filled to the brim with amusing side notes that may or may not be relevant. =) -- wwwwolf ( barks/ growls) 22:27, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
The name Metroid is a portmanteau of the words "metro system" (as in subway, or underground) and "android", because the designers thought Samus looked like an android and that the underground tunnels were like those of a metro system, hence... Metroid.
This was revealed a televised interview on Japanese TV, and a copy of N*Revolution magazine (a UK based, Nintendo-focused magazine by Imagine Publishing).
Can someone please add this to the main page? I've seen the subtitled interview (it was torented by some guy ages ago), and I've read the copy of N*Revolution magazine. Not sure if there are other sources, but I thought it was damned interested and needed to be on Wikipedia.
http://www.crunkgames.com/?p=87&page=12 http://selectbutton.net/archive/topic/5865 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.73.128.119 ( talk) 22:27, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
http://www.imagineshop.co.uk/products_show.php?typeID=53 It was in their mini Retro Magazine supplement (they one each month, along with a handheld supplement). If that covers the need for a reliable source, would it then be possible to include the Crunkgames website as an external link? Although it being fan-based means it's not good enough to a stand-alone source, it is still interesting, relates to the etymology information, and is backed up by the more reliable N*Revolution article. http://www.nrev-mag.co.uk/LatestIssue_BackIssues.html If you scroll down, you'll see the cover of the mini-mag that came with issue 2, it has Super Metroid on the front cover. Hope this is all sufficient. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.65.128.13 ( talk) 18:40, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Ridley is going to appear in Super Smash Bros Brawl in Adventure Mode.He`s going to be a boss encountered twice in the game.First as normal Ridley,then he seems to appear as Meta Ridley as one of the last bosses.Just as in Metroid games,there is no special strategy to defeat him.Just dodge for the attacks and hit him until he`s beaten. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.235.144.148 ( talk) 12:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
With all the work recently done here, anyone think we should attempt to see whether this page now rates as a Good Article? Or should more work be done first? Arrowned ( talk) 05:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Ref #92 is broken. Someone should fix it before GA review. -- Mika1h ( talk) 18:40, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
The recurring characters section is very long, so it doesn't look nice in the article. May I suggest creating an article called 'Recurring Characters in the Metroid Series', or shortening the section. It would be a shame for this article to fail GA because of such an easily fixable thing. Epass ( talk) 19:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Judge is right about the bold in the article; see WP:MOSBOLD. Anyway, I think the lead should be expanded a little bit more to adequately summarize the whole article. The Prince ( talk) 20:33, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Maybe a picture of Samus as she looks in brawl. I know she has her own article, but there are no pictures of her at all in the article, and she is the heroine. Also it could be used in the Samus article too. What does everyone else think? Here is a link from the smash bros. DOJO!! if you like.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/samus/samus_080226f-l.jpg or http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/samus/samus_070718c-l.jpg or http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/samus/samus.jpg or http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/zerosuit_samus/zerosuit_samus_080208a-l.jpg or http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/zerosuit_samus/zerosuit_samus.jpg
Which one is best? Epass ( talk) 00:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't think an image of Samus should in the lead. The article is about the whole series, not just the main character. I'm not sure, but I don't think there is a general logo for the series, but perhaps we could choose one of the logos from the games. It can be described in the caption which game the logo is taken from. Just a suggestion. The Prince ( talk) 12:59, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
It just said it was the Metroid logo. I supposed it meant the series logo, but I am not sure. Epass ( talk) 19:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Things to do to be ready for FA....
Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 18:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey could somebody please add in somewhere that the only places samus talks are in super smash bros brawl and In metroid fusion? and the only place you can hear samus's voice is in brawl when you push up taunt? im not sure where to stick this info in, so could someone please put it in the article? thanks.
66.94.9.52 ( talk) 08:58, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
The article states that "At all other times, no melodies are present in the game," and references this interview with the original game's composer as its source. However, every area except for Tourian has a very distinctive musical theme. Despite the composer's statements, the notion that "no melodies are present in the game" should be removed from the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.243.239.132 ( talk) 16:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
"At all other times, no melodies are present in the game." - I came here to add a note about this being false but I see it has already been answered. However, I also agree that this is a confusing way to write this. If he is making a distinction in the article that is not explained here then it needs to be. Otherwise, to contrast this to the Metroid theme playing after defeating Mother Brain is wrong. Lanlost ( talk) 16:25, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
What happened to the Ridley Kraid and Mother Brain articles? They were very good and informative. Now they've all been lumped together in a big mess. There isn't even an imagine for them anymore. I suggest we give them their own article again. Aragorn245 ( talk) 01:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I edited the Guardians' names in the Story section of the article.
I can hardly believe that nobody else noted that there was a terrible mistake in the names: Phantoon is NOT one of the Guardians, but Crocomire is. It's easily verifiable by looking at the statues blocking the entrante to Tourian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.31.85.106 ( talk) 23:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
The Antagonist paragraph is a mess! I can't tell where one thought begins, and another ends. It needs cleaned up badly.
Also, could we put in some pictures for the more important character, such as Ridley, Kraid, and Dark Samus? Aragorn245 ( talk) 19:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Part of the problem is that the section itself is already a sub-subsection. It's hard to go any further (to label sections for individual antagonists) without making a mess. I might suggest removing "Overview" and just split "Common gameplay elements", "Recurring characters" and "Story" into individual subsections of the whole article. Then "antagonists" could be more reasonably subdivided. Anyway, just a thought. Feebas_factor —Preceding comment was added at 17:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Can we have an etymology sub-heading, explaining that the name is a portmanteau of android and metro? Heres a source: http://www.crunkgames.com/?p=87&page=12
Go to that link and search for android.
Basically in the interview he says Samus looks like an android and the tunnels in the first game were like a metro system. This is fascinating stuff... Why hasn't this been listed on Wikipedia?!
Another source was UK games magazine N*Revolution, issue number 2, in the retro supplement which comes with every issue.
Also noted in Retro Gamer magazine.
Can someone PLEASE list this information. It is noteworthy, and fascinating. This is one of Nintendo's biggest franchises, and NO ONE seems to be talking about etymology or name history. Why? WHY NOT? This is a HUGE piece of information. It needs listing in a mainstream source like Wikipedia. There's several noted publications which have reported it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.73.200.240 ( talk) 14:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Kotaku, this article states that Metroid devolopment has made a new home at Armature studios, and will try to bring the future of the series to the 360 and PS3. I know this sounds like fan speculation but that is what the Kotaku article says, I think this should be mentioned, please read the link before blasting me.→ 041744 12:52, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Someone added a tag to this section which reads: "The length of this section may adversely affect readability." I think it's of perfect size and 2 paragraphs is definitely not too long. The other tag may have a point, but I suggest removing the first one. The Prince ( talk) 11:19, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
This is a random question, but do most of the games take place in the Milky Way (excepting Prime Hunters)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.131.246.58 ( talk) 03:47, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Article needs a better infobox, or clearer discussion of formats. It is not at all easy to see which formats the games have been released on. Centrepull ( talk) 08:18, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
There is platform info in the text, but I've now added the basic info to the infobox. Centrepull ( talk) 08:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
The story section seems to be superfluous, since it describes information that already exists in the individual articles. I think it should be made into a game list with gampeplay notes on each game. Also, maybe the Antagonists section could be made shorter by forgoing the story summaries.-- ZXCVBNM [ TALK 03:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Metroid Prime is said to occur after Super Metroid. It is noted in a pirate lore that "Zebes has fallen", referring to its destruction. Steamfraiser ( talk) 22:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Can someone clean some of this up? It's kind of an eyesore to read. I'd do it myself, but I suck at organizational skills. Fruckert ( talk) 14:08, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Is it not unfair that the Original Metroid is represented in the Reception scores table by the GBA re-release? The original version was on the NES; the GBA version seems to be considerably worse received by critics than the original. It's confusing and it gives the impression that the original game was of poor/mediocre quality. 87.254.78.91 ( talk) 23:10, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
In Super Metroid, you fight a miniature version of Kraid before fighting Kraid him/her yourself. This is an indication to me that either Kraid is an Asexual being, Kraid is Female, or there are multiple "Kraids". Many people also refer to Kraid as a her, so should we change Kraid to be gender neutral? Refering to him/her as an it? -Digman14 10:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Digman14 ( talk • contribs)
I would assume that the mini Kraid is a clone. The space pirates deal with the technology plenty of times, even cloning the Metroids in Super Metroid, the game where the Kraid and Mini-Kraid are featured.
The result of the move request was: Pages moved Ronhjones (Talk) 01:47, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Metroid (series) → Metroid — Since the launch of the first game Metroid has developed into a wide series consisting of numerous games, a sub-series "Metroid Prime" as well as mangas. Thus Metroid is now more commonly referred to as a series rather than as simply the first game. The move is also supported by the disambiguation section of the naming conventions for the series. Hence the first game should be moved to Metroid (video game) and the series page should be moved to Metroid. An example of how this has been done before is that Final Fantasy directs to the series page while the first game, Final Fantasy is under Final Fantasy (video game) KiasuKiasiMan ( talk) 08:04, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
I am pretty sure that phazon is still around, just less of a threat than it was before Phaaze was destroyed. Phazon does not work like a "hive-mind", because in a hive, only the queen insect (which in this case is Phaaze) reproduces, and none of the workers (Phazon) can. However, Phazon is capable of reproducing itself. Sure, Phaaze was desteroyed, so no more Leviathans could be sent to corrupt other planets, but those planets that were already corrupted and turned into "Phaaze clones" would still be around. 98.242.49.145 ( talk) 17:31, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
...and I can see now that Wikitroid I guess isn't a reliable wiki, but I found that many other sites talked about this Metroid being heavily inspired by Alien, including IGN.com! So, of course, I can understand why it was taken out, but I'm just wondering. I now have 4 more references to that. By the way, I'm new, and I mostly work at those Wikias. -- Gar-Art Studios ( talk) 13:39, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
The storyline section for Metroid Other M is horribly long. I think it should be reduced. -- 190.121.238.135 ( talk) 19:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC) Um, that's because it is a long game. Ian ( talk) 23:21, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
I looked at the "Audio" section and you guys said it was 6 MB was the limit for audio for the early Metroid Prime games? Are you sure? I use GarageBand and Logic Pro 9 and both use up a good 8 MB on 1:30 songs that don't have a lot of effects (Compressor, Echo, Reverb, etc.)! That is over-the-top crucial. Are you sure about that?
-- Gar-Art Studios ( talk) 22:34, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
There should definately be more information about the Super Metroid, it is the most important one after all.-- 67.49.103.120 ( talk) 15:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
You know, I would like to have some more information about it. I think it should go in the artice, in Plot.
Ian (
talk) 06:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
I don't know how to change this stuff, but someone put a line about carrots in russia into the second paragraph of this. Someone should take it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.40.6.118 ( talk) 20:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
On April 1, 2005, IGN posted an April Fool's Day article reporting critically panned director Uwe Boll would be directing the Metroid movie, with Samus being portrayed by Michelle Rodriguez, who stated the Nintendo GameCube is for kids.[48]
Does a rather poor, unlikely and uninteresting april fools joke really need to be here? It's not like the Legend of Zelda live action joke which was and is rather noteworthy. Just because IGN is a popular website doesn't mean everything they do is encyclopedic. While it might make sense in an article about IGN and say a list of their more noteworthy April Fools joke but in an article ON Metroid it feels out of place. - RamdomWolf 198.96.35.166 ( talk) 23:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I agree with you. Not everything from IGN (although it is one of the top gaming sites around) has to be entered into this site. -- Gar-Art Studios ( talk) 02:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Virtually NO MENTION of Metroid Dread? KP McZiggy (Allow Me To Introduce Myself...) 10:42, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Because its fake. Wikipedia is a place for fact, not hoaxes. noskap ( talk) 13:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
It is not fake http://ds.ign.com/articles/107/1077429p1.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.32.82.141 ( talk) 18:17, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
I feel that the line "As well as being one of Nintendo's most financially successful franchises with over 16 million games sold" needs some sort of reference and/or a date. I also don't think that it can be counted as "one of the most successful" when you compare it to the Mario franchise which at >250 million units is more than 15 times that figure. An actual ranking with figures would be better for clarification as to how successful it is/was. 118.209.97.203 ( talk) 12:32, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
The following is grossly incorrect regarding the original game:
“ | The only time the main Metroid theme was heard was after Mother Brain is defeated; this is intended to give the player a catharsis. At all other times, no melodies are present in the game. | ” |
The link given for a reference for this is dead, and it's just not true. The music from the metroid series, and the first game is quite notable and memorable, and in the first game it does play throughout (with different themes for different areas). Check out The Minibosses or play a copy and see for yourself. The rest of the stuff about the audio is interesting, so it would be nice to be able to save it and rewrite to maybe capture what was meant by the composers or otherwise fix this without just ripping the whole bit out. Maybe just taking those two sentences out would do it. I think part of the problem is that this article is for the series and the text seems to refer to specific games in the series. Rifter0x0000 ( talk) 04:34, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
It's annoying that Justin Bailey redirects here but isn't mentioned at all once in the article. -- 67.80.8.233 ( talk) 20:28, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
I have found many more female protagonists in video games before Samus: Leading female characters in video games:
Apple ][: Female player selection (Akalabeth: World of Doom, Origin, 1979)
Arcade: Ms. Pac-Man (Ms. Pac-Man, Bally Midway, 1981)....Lady Bug (Lady Bug, Universal, 1981)
Atari VCS 2600: Billie Sue (Wabbit, Games by Apollo, 1982).... Alice (Alice Adventure, Quelle, 1983).... Blond girl (Ghost Manor, Xonox, 1983, selectable).... Leading Lady (Beat ‘em and eat ‘em, Mystique, 1983).... Strawberry Shortcake (Strawberry Shortcake, Parker, 1983)
Atari 8-bit: Kim Kimberly (Snowball, Return to Eden, Level 9 Computing, 1983, 1984)
Sega SG-1000: Papri (Girl's Garden, Sega, 1984)
Apple ][: Jenny (Jenny of the prairie, Addison Wesley, 1984).... Clair (Cave Girl Clair, Addison Wesley, 1984).... Lauren (Lauren of the 25th century, Addison Wesley, 1984).... Chelsea (Chelsea of the south sea Ilands, Addison Wesley, 1984)
C64: Barbie (Barbie, Epyx, 1984)
NES: Samus Aran (Metroid, Nintendo, 1986) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.158.236.137 ( talk) 20:15, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi
thanks for the answers.
I don't agree with Metroid having an identity, as you didn't even know until the end of the game she was a woman. Throughout the game many players classed her (it?) as an android or robot killing machine.
I heard some kids 'oh she's not a robot, just a girl' comments. Basically she was substituted, it could have been anyone (anything).
Billy Sue in Wabbit (Games by Apollo on Atari VCS 2600) on the other hand, is a real strong character, she was a fighter and had to defend her farm, a very real plot for sure.
Kim Kimberly, another very strong female character, just read about her here on Wiki ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_(game)#Snowball), and you'll see she's like the original Lara Croft, only better.
I realise there are male ladybugs, but in this game from Universal, she's female for sure, just check out the cover from the Coleco conversion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.158.248.10 ( talk) 08:47, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
And I just found out from a professional programmer that Wabbit, the first console video game to feature a female protagonist (Billie Sue) was written by a woman named Ban Tran (Vietnamese), how cool is that!
Follow the story here: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/169826-is-laser-gates-really-inner-space/
The history page doesn'e mention the Fusion title at all. It is my favorite title in the series, so it makes me slightly sad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derfpace ( talk • contribs) 21:32, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
There has been a bit of back-and-forth on this, so rather than add to that I thought I'd bring it here for discussion. The question is, essentially, should Galactic Pinball be included in the timeline and the games section?
It is included in the Games section, stating the game takes place in the Metroid universe, but there is no source backing this up. The most recent edit adding the game to the timeline states that the linked article has information on it. Reading the main Galactic Pinball article, it only mentions that Samus has a cameo in that game, along with Star Fox characters etc. It does not state that the game is set in the Metroid universe, as this article states. Looking at the other games on the list, these are all core Metroid games, not games including Metroid elements as a cameo.
As such, in my opinion, it appears that one of the following is true. First, the game is part of the Metroid universe, but more sources are needed to show this, and the Galactic Pinball article itself probably needs a lot of work. Second, the game is not part of the Metroid universe, and should be removed from the Games section and the timeline. Third, the game is not part of the Metroid universe, but it and other games including Samus as a cameo (most obviously the Smash Bros games) should be added to the game list and timeline.
Thoughts? Aawood ( talk) 12:01, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I noticed that the lead is completely unsourced. I can go ahead and find some sources to implement in that section, if you all think that is necessary. Let me know, thanks! GordonFreeman1 ( talk) 16:46, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
One more thing -- under the "Games" section, where it lists each game released in the Metroid series, should be also include which console each game belongs to? For instance, Metroid Fusion for the Gameboy, Metroid Prime for the Gamecube, etc etc. Let me know if you agree, and I'll go ahead and put that information in. Thanks! GordonFreeman1 ( talk) 16:52, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Are there any sources about the etymology of the name Metroid? Metro is derived from the Greek word for mother, and -oid is a suffix denoting similarity. IsaacAA ( talk) 17:03, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
This seems rather irrelevant since Other M contains glaring continuity flaws, but it says in the plot for Other M that the "Deleter" is thought to be James? I never saw ANY implication of that. James died right after Maurice. By process of elimination, the only Marine that didn't die (besides Anthony) is K.G. We already know Anthony is not the Deleter (the Deleter isn't equipped with a plasma cannon), so it logically follows that K.G is the Deleter, I haven't found any relevant facts showing that the Deleter is James, apart from him surviving apparently the longest time after the assassinations started. Any sources for the "apparent proof" that James is the Deleter would be appreciated, as the article doesn't mention them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.228.139 ( talk) 21:49, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
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A lot of people considered the Metroid Prime series to be a spin-off, should we include it in the infobox? I mean it would make sense, the Metroid series and Prime series' perspective and gameplay is very different. So should we include the Metroid Prime series? GeekFreak98 ( talk) 20:11, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Alright, thank you guys for your time. We'll think about this. GeekFreak98 ( talk) 20:44, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
I found it very odd that the entire Metroidvania genre isn't even mentioned until the last sentence, to an uncited statement. As cleanup is done here, I think we'll have to consider how we work that in a little better. Red Phoenix talk 03:15, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
I'll throw out as well that if we're looking for more cites, fr:Metroid is a featured article in the French Wikipedia, and barring a couple of idiosyncrasies, the references section looks very solid. Sometimes the French writing style I've found too flowery for encyclopedic writing, so a direct translation isn't a good idea, but it has some great resources. Red Phoenix talk 02:31, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
I agree, adding MetroidVania in there would be nessecary in my opinion. I see nothing wrong with that. GeekFreak98 ( talk) 11:44, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
As this article is very well-covered in French, I’m thinking in the next week or so I’ll translate it and put it into a sandbox. Then, we can take the pieces we like and can verify, and that will give immense opportunities for expansion. Red Phoenix talk 01:51, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Super Metroid (sometimes called Metroid 3) is an action-adventure game developed by Nintendo R & D1 and Intelligent Systems, and published by Nintendo for Super Nintendo in March 1994 in Japan then in April in the United States and in July in Europe. It is the third game in the series and a direct sequel to the first two opus.[2][15] The game was reissued in 1995 in the United States in the Player's Choice range.[16] In Japan, the game was re-released in September 1997 via the Nintendo Power cartridge service for Super Nintendo.[17] It was also reissued on the Wii virtual console in the United States in August 2007,[18] in Japan in September of the same year[17] and in Europe in October.[19] The game was subsequently re-released on the Wii U virtual console in May 2013 in Japan[17] and then worldwide.[20][21] It is also reissued on the New Nintendo 3DS virtual console in March in Europe[22] and in April 2016 in Japan[17] and North America.[23] It is also in the game library of the reissue of the Super NES Mini console released at the end of 2017.[24]
Yeah, Popcornfud, this is starting to look bad. Yes, the French sources are actually predominantly English, but there are some French sources there, most curiously a whole book. That being said, I don't know anything about the author and very little about the publisher. I'll leave the sandbox as it is because I do bet there are English and French sources there worth using. (As a side note, a machine translation will work much better for French sources than they would Japanese, as European languages are easier understood by translators and only the jargon might be a little confusing). I am going to abandon the translation at this point, because on reviewing there are some interesting tidbits but not a lot we haven't covered more concisely here. We may instead want to look to the game articles, aside from sources. Red Phoenix talk 01:30, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Something we're missing badly is the series' plot. There's been a template for ages explaining the timeline and how the games are out of sequence from their release date, but it's never been sourced. I've been looking for some sourcing for that but could use assessments of reference reliability and how to use them best..
Red Phoenix talk 02:09, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
@ TheJoebro64: and @ GeekFreak98:. TO avoid an edit war, I thought I bring up the discussion. The reasoning I saw in the edit summaries was because there's a list article for the media. I find this reasoning odd because one of our featured articles, Final Fantasy, uses the same formatting as this article, also has a list of video games and a list of media, and still makes use of a VR release timeline template. Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 15:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm seeing low-level edit warring on its inclusion in the history, so my 2cents: as a fan game that did not influence the main series, it should not be included in the history section, but there absolutely should be a section on this past about games inspired by Metroid (eg Axiom Verge, perhaps Shadow Complex) of which you then can include fan games. This can be wrapped into a Legacy section that includes the current section on Metroidvanias. -- Masem ( t) 21:24, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Since chronological order means groupings of the subseries is no longer possible, such as the original series and the Prime series, I think ordering should reflect the different subseries instead. It's also easier to find information with more structure, instead of walls of nebulous text. Ozdarka ( talk) 14:49, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Anybody thinking of replacing the Metroid logo with the new logo from Metroid™: Samus Returns and Metroid Dread? It would be a cool replacement.
What y'all think? GeekFreak98 ( talk) 13:34, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
What about the lightning bolt symbol that's free? can that one be used? Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 15:23, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
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Seeing as this page is primarily a guide to the Metroid series, and links to a specific page about Super Metroid, perhaps this page should be renamed "Metroid_(series)", as used an umbrella page. What does everyone think? Adam Conover 01:38, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
Let me say, whoever did the consolidation for the Metroid series of articles really mucked things up. There is not enough detail in this article to cover everything. Items in the Metroid Series no longer exists, and that was (as I mentioned below) the longest and most detailed article in the entire set of articles. This main article is not long enough, and does not contain enough information, and adding the rest of the information to this article would clutter it up, which is why the other articles existed in the first place. Some of the side articles didn't need to exist, sure, but why take out the Items article? Shralla 08:10, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Is it just me or is the over all theme of the Metriod series is man VS nature? Also the series seems more like Space Opera then Sci-Fi to me. Zerath13
I think I like that plan. What says everyone about the Metroids themselves having their own entry, also?
Is it permissible to add the informations like this? Relating to METROID name exists METROID TEAM, a famous video-game group with international highlights. To add and increases the The Free Dictionary and the Wikipedia Enciclopedia, is valid to agree informations like this. For further informations, follow a couple of fonts to be consulted.
http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=59&kw=metroid (or on www.twingalaxies.com -> Search -> Metroid -> Articles ) --- A lot of texts, links and championship results including Metroid Team. Main links: 8/17/2001 Daily Californian, Salinas, California 3/13/2002 Brazilian Dominates Wacky Races 8/20/2001 Bios for Brazil's Metroid Team 8/23/2001 Brazil's Metroid Team Appears in USA Newspaper 7/27/2001 Metroid Team Big Hit with Crazy Taxi 7/27/1999 Brazilian Players Make PSX High-scores
http://www.twingalaxies.com/cgi-perl/Crazy_Taxi_World_Championship.pl --- Crazy Taxi (Dreamcast) Twingalaxies World Championship;
http://www.twingalaxies.com/cgi-perl/Crazy_Taxi_2_Newsletter_Final.pl --- Crazy Taxi 2 (Dreamcast) Twingalaxies World Championship
http://www.twingalaxies.com/cgi-perl/Wave_Race_Newsletter_Final.pl --- Wave Race 64 (Nintendo64) Twingalaxies World Championship
http://www.twingalaxies.com/cgi-perl/breaking_news4.pl --- Look for Player Profiles. Look for Player Interviews.
http://www.californianonline.com/news/stories/20010817/localnews/885350.html --- "If you need to lose to someone, make it Equipe Metroid." Californian (USA) newspaper with Metroid Team highlights;
http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/equipemetroid/ --- in Portuguese.
http://an.uol.com.br/1999/dez/10/0cid.htm http://an.uol.com.br/1999/dez/18/ http://an.uol.com.br/1999/dez/18/0ane.htm --- "A NOTÍCIA", Brazilian newsletter (and online newsletter) of great importance, about National Championship. In Portuguese.
http://www.twingalaxies.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1286&sid=7709c58c380e1e1330b60d5061375e8e or on www.twingalaxies.com -> Forums -> Crazy Bounties -> 1st Crazy Bounty - VERIFIED !! --- Cristiano (Metroid Team) becoming the first player in history to break one videogame challenge, and Won US$100.
http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=122 --- Important videogame board. Player writing and asking about the "famous" Metroid Team. See: "One more thing: I don't know of anyone on the Metroid Team (for any readers who don't know, that's a famous group of top Brazilian gamers)..."
--- And a lot of non-internet based articles, including Brazilians magazines, and international covers and highlights.
Why does everyone want to merge all the side-topics into MP2?
I hope I'm not overstepping my limits or stepping on anyones toes with this, but I noticed that there are a ton of small, highly limited pages about Metroid that aren't really very cohesive. In this spirit, I am consolidating much of the smaller pages into an umbrella page here, as it seemed the best place. The goal there being to make a single useful page rather than dozens of small pages that are difficult to find. So if I'm doing something wrong, please be kind in reprimanding me. An example of what I mean: Previously there was a 'Power Suit' and a 'Power Beam' page. These terms could mean something from another game, anime, book, etc. Besides which, the average person probably won't search 'Power Suit' while thinking of 'Metroid.' By putting it in a single page, all the relevant info is right there at the immediate search term. I noticed also that people had talked about doing this, but not done it... so I took a bit of initiative. Chaz 02:22, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)
Correct me if I'm wrong,it's been an AWFUL long time since I played metroid, but isn't the fact that the major character is female a huge secret? I seem to recall having to complete the game twice before you get to the sequence where the character takes her helmet off. If this is the case, should the article be so upfont about it? Gmaxwell 05:09, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Let me see if I have this straight as far as the timeline/storyline goes:
Does Metroid Prime 2 come before or after Metroid 2? All the article says is "Between Metroid Prime and Metroid Fusion". Where does Hunters fit in?
-- Zxcvbnm 02:25, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
This is from Talk:Metroid: Zero Mission:
Nintendo has created a Metroid Prime 2: Echoes bonus disc that is available from one of three sources: the Metroid Prime re-release bundle, by registering 5 GameCube games online, or as an option when you subscribe to Nintendo Power. The disc includes a playable demo of the game, as well as a "Metroid Chronicles" feature that arranges the games (those that had been released at the time, at least) in a historical timeline. The ordering is as follows:
Zero Mission is placed after Metroid due to the events occuring after Mother Brain's defeat. This is evident from the text descriptions that accompany each game.
Metroid:
Nintendo Entertainment System ( NES ) Release Date: 1989
"A research vessel dispatched by the galactic federation discovers and captures a strange life-form called a "Metroid" on the planet SR-388. However, on its way back to federation HQ, the research vessel is attacked by Space Pirates, who steal the Metroid. Once they discover the Metroid's ability to multiply through beta-ray exposure, the Space Pirates conspire to make use of the Metroids in their plot to take over the universe. To stop them, Samus lands on the planet Zebes and single-handedly destroys their underground base — and their leader Mother Brain — after a series of intense battles."
Zero Mission:
Game Boy Advance ( GBA ) Release Date: Febuary 2004
"In an expanded look at Samus' first mission to Zebes, the bounty hunter heads to Zebes to wipe out the Space Pirate threat. However, this story doesn't end after Samus destroys the Mother Brain — As she escapes the planet, her ship is shot down by Space Pirates and she crash lands on the surface of Zebes, near where the Space Pirate Mother Ship has landed. Having lost her power-suit in the crash, Samus must infiltrate the Space Pirate ship and fight her way off the planet."
I've heard that Hunters occurs between Prime 1 and Prime 2, but I don't remember where I heard that from. -- Poiuyt Man talk 14:16, 25 July 2005 (UTC) It's in Nintendo Power
I have a question about the chronology of the Metroid series, where exactly was the information for the Metroid Zero Mission description found? I noticed the Japanese flash for Metroid Zero Mission was sited, is this the source? If so, is this a direct translation? Darkpulsaromega 03:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm wondering about something, too. In I. Crany's logbook entry in Prime 2, he claims that Angseth said Samus "blew up a planet full of Space Pirates". If this is Zebes, then this seems to imply that Echoes takes place after Super Metroid, which contradicts Nintendo's timeline. Please explain! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.174.66.138 ( talk • contribs) .
The Zero Mission site says that it goes like this: Metroid (/Zero mission) Metroid II: The Return of Samus Super Metroid Metroid Prime Metroid Prime 2: Echoes Metroid Prime: Hunters? Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Metroid Fusion But it was released before Prime 2, but after Prime... 24.7.141.45 —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 04:09, August 26, 2007 (UTC).
Please see Talk:Metroid: Zero Mission, anonymous IP User:68.41.169.128 insists on stating that the game is a prequel, without giving any references. I have not received any response to notices I've placed on the user's talk page, and no edit summaries have been given on the reverts. I'd rather not violate the three-revert rule, so help would be appreciated with this situation. Poiuyt Man talk 8 July 2005 22:43 (UTC)
Additional opinions would be helpful on the talk page, as the only current participants are Dai pher and myself. The argument has quickly grown out of control, and doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything. I can't defend the page alone; a consensus needs to be reached to determine the article's content. -- Poiuyt Man talk 23:11, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
There is now a poll at the bottom of Talk:Metroid: Zero Mission, regarding whether Metroid: Zero Mission should be considered to be a re-telling/remake or prequel of Metroid. Please vote to help us establish a consensus. -- Poiuyt Man talk 05:50, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Some comments about my last edit:
Fredrik | talk 20:30, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
People around here may be interested in the Metroid Wikicity. It has plenty of room for fancruft and strategy guides... perhaps even fan fiction. Some of the Wikipedia articles on Metroid locations and characters would probably be better placed there. Fredrik | talk 02:12, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
So, has it pretty much been confirmed that Metroid Dread has been cancelled? If so, should it be removed from the "upcoming" section of the series template and be merged into the main Metroid series article? ~ Hibana 21:31, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Why the hell is there no article on them? I am not an expert but What. The. F9!
I wanted to find that "Screw Attack S" to put in the page, and I found one... but is kind of small. What do you think? igordebraga ≠ 00:48, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I'm starting to get really ticked off about this shinespark thing. How do you do it, where do you do it, and can somebody please tell me in detail? I would really like to know how, because I love easter eggs and the like, but I can't find it *sigh*. Okay, it's been about 13 hours since I typed that last sentence, I've been looking for the shinespark thing, and still can't find it. Somebody tell me!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.166.78.43 ( talk • contribs) 16:18, May 2, 2006
I've never heard it called shinespark. ąIf you would read its originaly called Super Jump. Its what happens after you run with the speedbooster upgrade and crouch while glowing. At that moment you can do a number of super jumps, like diagonal which i have always known as being called Spineshank. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.29.241.82 ( talk) 22:13, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Clarifying my edit of the comment "The Metroid games are particularly associated with nonlinear gameplay, which was pioneered by the first installment in the series"; Examples of non-linear games prior to Metroid (August, 1986) include games such as Legend of Zelda (February 1986) and Tunnels of Doom (1982). Druff 21:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
I think the description of the Metroid Prime Hunters part at least is far too POV. I personally found the single player mode very entertaining and didn't see anything rushed about it. Most reviews agree with me. Further, it took them almost 3 years to make that game with nintendo pushing back a late 2005 release date in response to fans who insisted they wanted an internet multiplayer mode. Thus, if anything, it should be the internet multiplayer part that seems rushed. I understand that longtime fans might dislike the FPS gameplay compared to what was standard in all past Metroid games, and that should be in the article. The other opinions have little basis.
Gamefaqs has an anti-leech mechanism set up, you can do what some articles do and mention that it requires a cut and paste of the URL, or find another source.-- BigCow 20:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Anyone else think we should get a wikiproject together? I watch all the metroid pages, but I think there are enough articles to justify starting a wikiproject to make them more uniform, and to create a forum for ideas about the future of the articles. Digital Watches 02:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I want to suggest merging Metroid (film) into this page. As it stands now, the info in the film page is identical to the paragraph in the "Franchise Spin-offs" section of the series page, with the exception of one line dedicated towards John Woo. That line could easily be put in the series page, and the film page trashed for now. The film page should certainly come back later on, if the movie starts production and more info begins flowing, but until then, it just seems like a waste of space. Arrow 21:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree, it is a waste of space. -- Dr. Pizza 17:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, sounds like a good idea. The separate page for just a few sentences when it would easily fit in the main Metroid series page is a waste. - ChaosMaster 11:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
What ChaosMaster said. Metakraid 21:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I admit that I have no sources to back this up, but I thought that Metroid was very unpopular in Japan, and only had decent sales in the U.S. (That would explain why the Metroid Prime triology is developed by a company in Austin, Texas, and why more recent Metroid games are released in the US or UK before they are anywhere else). Can anyone give me sales figures to disprove or back up what I just said? -- 69.241.228.117 21:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, so there's Third/Fourth Generations of Video Games and Fifth/Sixth Generations of Video Games, so why is there no details on Seventh Generation of Video Games when Corruption has been confirmed and there are already details on it? Cipher ( Yell) 21:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Would anyone object if I wrote an article on the secret worlds? I did this for the first game and it was deleted. Would it be acceptable here if it was written in an encylopedic manor? And would anyone be willing to contribute? I am only knowledgable about the secret worlds in the first few games (or lack of, namely Super Metroid). Kinch82 10:28, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I was checking on IMDB's page for the Metroid movie and it's gone. With the Transformer movie just now showing up, I wouldn't doubt if they just do the Metroid movie later.
The section on the Shinespark move, though extensive enough in examples and history of the move, does not seem to give a clear and concise explanation of what the move actually is, or how it functions. Perhaps someone who knows more about it than me, could add a short (maybe just single line) explanation of the move at the start of the paragraph, to give some more context for the rest of the text. Thanks in advance to anyone who can do that. Frostlion 22:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
I think its already described the best it can be. As the super jump and aura your able to preform once you run with the speed booster upgrade. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.29.241.82 ( talk) 22:15, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
I think it would make much more sense to link materials like Bendezium and Brinstone to Fictional chemical substances rather than here, as they are never mentioned in this particular article. 71.87.113.191 00:16, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Just doesn't sound right for an encyclopedia Wii2-13 01:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Gametrailers.com has started a Metroid Retrospective ( here ) They've only completed 2 of the 5 planned parts, but so far it's an excellent and informative retrospective, everyone agree that it should (perhaps once 5 parts completed?) be added to the external links section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.120.37 ( talk • contribs)
Metroid Dread has been merged her, per this AfD result. Interested users may also like to look through Talk:Metroid Dread.
I've placed the text as a subheader of 'Release history', further cleanup/integration maybe required. Someone may also like to remove the references that link to forums, per WP:EL. Marasmusine 08:15, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I know it's very difficult, but maybe, if we all work together [/cheesy] we could get a Metroid related article to featured article status in time for August 27? Currently the only Good Article is Metroid Prime, which fits very nicely considering MP3 is the last in the trilogy and MP1 is the first. It was just an idea I had. ShadowUltra 21:33, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Currently the page has several objects that Samus uses linked to the objects in the metroid series page, which re-directs back here which has very little on the power ups she uses. Was the page for her power ups deleted? Because I remember it being here a while back. Edit: Forgot to sign my post Tensa Zangetsu 19:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I did lot of that awhile ago, I stopped because I thought ihad gotten at least 75% of it. Guess not. Here's to my second run. DurinsBane87 08:27, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Since there seems to be many disputes over this, let's clear them up: Mother Brain - In the early games, it was the leader of the Space Pirates, but that ha since been retconned. It's now just a biomechanical computer.
Kraid - No information has been given about Kraid's role. Calling him a general of some kind is mere speculation.
Ridley - Leader of the Space Pirates. Although that was obviously not his original role, Zero Mission makes it very clear that he is now.
So let's quit messing with that section. 75.153.231.20 20:58, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Various areas in the Metroid Series redirect to this page, which has little information about any of them, except for Zebes (which is the only one to have its own page). I think either a new section on this page should talk about the different planets, or a new article should be created altogether. Besides, didn't there used to be one? Trashydrummer 01:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I was looking for the article ScrewAttack by typing in the keyword " Screw Attack", but it redirected me here. Is there a reason for this? I don't know anything about the game Metroid, so I can't say for sure. However, wouldn't it be more appropriate to have Screw Attack redirect to ScrewAttack? If there's some move or anything like that in Metroid, it could be mentioned at the start of the ScrewAttack article, and the reader could be advised to follow a link to this article, if that's what he or she was looking for.
I would do that redirection myself, but I have no idea how important the connection between Metroid and "Screw Attack" is, if at all.
84.248.26.163 01:12, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I seriously think this article, created a month and a half ago, should be nominated for deletion. I'd do it myself, but I'm unfamiliar with the nominating process, and am busy working on other edits at the moment. Arrowned 20:32, 1 October 2007(UTC)
what happened to the Universe of the Metroid series page? its gone and i can't find its talk page!-- Lerdthenerd 19:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I've just got a message telling me the Mother Brain picture I linked to that article has been orphaned! Now what am i supposed to do with it? Should i follow Betacommandbot's advice and recreate the article??-- Lerdthenerd 20:20, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
No. It was deleted for a reason. If you MUST, use deletion review, but I doubt it will work. DurinsBane87 21:24, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I think merging all of the Metroid-related articles here. It was way too drastic of a merge. There should be some seperate articles such as a seperate article for the various items in the series and some for certain characters like one for the Space Pirates (and related characters like Ridley, Kraid and Mother Brain). Unknown Dragon 22:57, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
But now all of the information is clumped together and is no longer informative, these articles should be recreated within the right specifications. Unknown Dragon 20:54, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Deleted due to non-notability? What so essentially there was no reason for them to exist? With that logic there's really no reason for Wikipedia itself to exist. Encyclopedia Britannica and World Book are just as informative. An encyclopedia's about being informative and the articles exist to provide information. I think this is too much of a merge. Maybe 'Space Pirates' should be made into its own article with Ridley, Kraid and Mother brain incorporated under it. —Preceding
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Could someone find a citation talking about the supposed plans for a Metroid game to come the Nintendo 64? Abodos 02:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Also, didn't Gunpei Yokoi intend on ending the franchise at Super Metroid? But after his death, Nintendo decided to bring it back anyway? Abodos 03:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a picture for the Metroid species? As the title characters of the franchise, they ought to have an actual picture on Wikipedia. Abodos 06:13, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I think that a picture of the Metroid logo should be at the top of the page. Logos portray an important symbol for a franchise, and usually sum up all the moods and imagery in one picture. They have the logo for the Legend of Zelda series at the top of its respective article, so why not do the same for Metroid? Abodos 06:13, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I hate to bring up WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, but something's wrong. Every single Metroid article, with the exception of this, Samus, and the articles for the specific games, has been deleted. While one may argue they were cruft, an article exists for numerous minor Kirby characters with no more than a paragraph of information, the same goes for Mario. So, can someone tell me why these articles were all deleted, or should I mark the others for deletion? ShadowUltra 20:38, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I aggree with the OP here. Other games have many articles on very minor ingame things, why can't metroid have articles on at least it's most major ingame aspects. These articles should be recreated. Metroid (Species), Items in Metroid especially so. -- 124.40.47.112 12:42, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a subsection under the Space Pirates about Mother Brain? She is far more notable than Kraid, serving more of a purpose for the plot of the games. Abodos 05:21, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I thought everyone would like to know that the Metroid series article is currently about the same length as-if not longer than- the article on Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. That's a pretty decent achievement if you ask me. Although, picky Wikipedia editors might state how it shouldn't be that long since Star Wars is much more notable than Metroid; but then again, this is an article about broad topics covering an entire series as opposed to specific topics covering a single installment. Keep up the good work, guys!
Also, it might be important to know that the Metroid series article currently has over 50 citations. When I started working on this article around 2 weeks ago, it only had about 12. That's a pretty sizable achievement as well, but I think the article still needs a good deal more references than it has now. Be sure that you don't cite obscure fansites or those that do nothing but speculate on the roles of Ridley or Mother Brain. Also, when citing videos, be sure the videos only show what is relevant to the text that needs the citation; i.e., make sure the video doesn't include the player taking several minutes to reach a boss when all you need info on the boss itself.
Once again, keep up the good work, guys. This article sure is coming along, and will hopefully give enough reliable information to people to get them interested in the actual games. Abodos 05:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Whoever decided to make all those edits to the Phazon subsection- whatever their intentions might have been- really jumbled everything up! The reference from the "Leviathan Infant Scan" was unneccessarily added to the actual article itself, the sentences it replaced were put into the reference spot itself, the first few paragraphs of the Game-play subsection were somehow put down in the reference section, and nearly half the later references were deleted or de-linked! I can hardly tell where to start with the corrections, it's been so messed up!
I need some assistance re-linking the references, putting the paragraphs back where they are supposed to be, and putting references back down with the other references, if at all possible. Abodos 02:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for randomly making your text bold! It made it so easy to read! -- 124.40.47.112 12:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I feel that the "musician" section under Important People needs more information. The "developers" section has some information about those respective people, but the "musician" section just consists of one big list and just some info on how one guy might have or might not have been one of the musicians. Although developers are always the main minds behind the games, that doesn't mean that the music is any less important; these guys deserve more respect! Abodos ( talk) 19:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I feel these 2 sections are too short and need lengthening, as well as a mention of orange Phazon. -- [color=purple]Chykka207[color] ( talk) 19:51, 9 December 2007 (UTC) What Happened to my comment?!
Removed by someone else puzzledly here: ... (which some say sounded like something of a sinister remix of the theme music to the 1966 television show, Mission: Impossible) ... Well, now that it has been pointed out, the Ridley music and MI theme do have kind of similar rhythm. However, I wouldn't endorse this particular addition, because it's not immediately obvious, we don't know if it's intentional, there's no sources, wording "some say" is kind of weaselly and damnable in itself, and, besides, what's the point. It's funny, the music is funny, space dragons are funny, but I don't think a Wikipedia article is supposed to be filled to the brim with amusing side notes that may or may not be relevant. =) -- wwwwolf ( barks/ growls) 22:27, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
The name Metroid is a portmanteau of the words "metro system" (as in subway, or underground) and "android", because the designers thought Samus looked like an android and that the underground tunnels were like those of a metro system, hence... Metroid.
This was revealed a televised interview on Japanese TV, and a copy of N*Revolution magazine (a UK based, Nintendo-focused magazine by Imagine Publishing).
Can someone please add this to the main page? I've seen the subtitled interview (it was torented by some guy ages ago), and I've read the copy of N*Revolution magazine. Not sure if there are other sources, but I thought it was damned interested and needed to be on Wikipedia.
http://www.crunkgames.com/?p=87&page=12 http://selectbutton.net/archive/topic/5865 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.73.128.119 ( talk) 22:27, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
http://www.imagineshop.co.uk/products_show.php?typeID=53 It was in their mini Retro Magazine supplement (they one each month, along with a handheld supplement). If that covers the need for a reliable source, would it then be possible to include the Crunkgames website as an external link? Although it being fan-based means it's not good enough to a stand-alone source, it is still interesting, relates to the etymology information, and is backed up by the more reliable N*Revolution article. http://www.nrev-mag.co.uk/LatestIssue_BackIssues.html If you scroll down, you'll see the cover of the mini-mag that came with issue 2, it has Super Metroid on the front cover. Hope this is all sufficient. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.65.128.13 ( talk) 18:40, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Ridley is going to appear in Super Smash Bros Brawl in Adventure Mode.He`s going to be a boss encountered twice in the game.First as normal Ridley,then he seems to appear as Meta Ridley as one of the last bosses.Just as in Metroid games,there is no special strategy to defeat him.Just dodge for the attacks and hit him until he`s beaten. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.235.144.148 ( talk) 12:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
With all the work recently done here, anyone think we should attempt to see whether this page now rates as a Good Article? Or should more work be done first? Arrowned ( talk) 05:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Ref #92 is broken. Someone should fix it before GA review. -- Mika1h ( talk) 18:40, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
The recurring characters section is very long, so it doesn't look nice in the article. May I suggest creating an article called 'Recurring Characters in the Metroid Series', or shortening the section. It would be a shame for this article to fail GA because of such an easily fixable thing. Epass ( talk) 19:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Judge is right about the bold in the article; see WP:MOSBOLD. Anyway, I think the lead should be expanded a little bit more to adequately summarize the whole article. The Prince ( talk) 20:33, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Maybe a picture of Samus as she looks in brawl. I know she has her own article, but there are no pictures of her at all in the article, and she is the heroine. Also it could be used in the Samus article too. What does everyone else think? Here is a link from the smash bros. DOJO!! if you like.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/samus/samus_080226f-l.jpg or http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/samus/samus_070718c-l.jpg or http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/samus/samus.jpg or http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/zerosuit_samus/zerosuit_samus_080208a-l.jpg or http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/zerosuit_samus/zerosuit_samus.jpg
Which one is best? Epass ( talk) 00:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't think an image of Samus should in the lead. The article is about the whole series, not just the main character. I'm not sure, but I don't think there is a general logo for the series, but perhaps we could choose one of the logos from the games. It can be described in the caption which game the logo is taken from. Just a suggestion. The Prince ( talk) 12:59, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
It just said it was the Metroid logo. I supposed it meant the series logo, but I am not sure. Epass ( talk) 19:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Things to do to be ready for FA....
Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 18:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey could somebody please add in somewhere that the only places samus talks are in super smash bros brawl and In metroid fusion? and the only place you can hear samus's voice is in brawl when you push up taunt? im not sure where to stick this info in, so could someone please put it in the article? thanks.
66.94.9.52 ( talk) 08:58, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
The article states that "At all other times, no melodies are present in the game," and references this interview with the original game's composer as its source. However, every area except for Tourian has a very distinctive musical theme. Despite the composer's statements, the notion that "no melodies are present in the game" should be removed from the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.243.239.132 ( talk) 16:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
"At all other times, no melodies are present in the game." - I came here to add a note about this being false but I see it has already been answered. However, I also agree that this is a confusing way to write this. If he is making a distinction in the article that is not explained here then it needs to be. Otherwise, to contrast this to the Metroid theme playing after defeating Mother Brain is wrong. Lanlost ( talk) 16:25, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
What happened to the Ridley Kraid and Mother Brain articles? They were very good and informative. Now they've all been lumped together in a big mess. There isn't even an imagine for them anymore. I suggest we give them their own article again. Aragorn245 ( talk) 01:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I edited the Guardians' names in the Story section of the article.
I can hardly believe that nobody else noted that there was a terrible mistake in the names: Phantoon is NOT one of the Guardians, but Crocomire is. It's easily verifiable by looking at the statues blocking the entrante to Tourian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.31.85.106 ( talk) 23:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
The Antagonist paragraph is a mess! I can't tell where one thought begins, and another ends. It needs cleaned up badly.
Also, could we put in some pictures for the more important character, such as Ridley, Kraid, and Dark Samus? Aragorn245 ( talk) 19:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Part of the problem is that the section itself is already a sub-subsection. It's hard to go any further (to label sections for individual antagonists) without making a mess. I might suggest removing "Overview" and just split "Common gameplay elements", "Recurring characters" and "Story" into individual subsections of the whole article. Then "antagonists" could be more reasonably subdivided. Anyway, just a thought. Feebas_factor —Preceding comment was added at 17:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Can we have an etymology sub-heading, explaining that the name is a portmanteau of android and metro? Heres a source: http://www.crunkgames.com/?p=87&page=12
Go to that link and search for android.
Basically in the interview he says Samus looks like an android and the tunnels in the first game were like a metro system. This is fascinating stuff... Why hasn't this been listed on Wikipedia?!
Another source was UK games magazine N*Revolution, issue number 2, in the retro supplement which comes with every issue.
Also noted in Retro Gamer magazine.
Can someone PLEASE list this information. It is noteworthy, and fascinating. This is one of Nintendo's biggest franchises, and NO ONE seems to be talking about etymology or name history. Why? WHY NOT? This is a HUGE piece of information. It needs listing in a mainstream source like Wikipedia. There's several noted publications which have reported it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.73.200.240 ( talk) 14:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Kotaku, this article states that Metroid devolopment has made a new home at Armature studios, and will try to bring the future of the series to the 360 and PS3. I know this sounds like fan speculation but that is what the Kotaku article says, I think this should be mentioned, please read the link before blasting me.→ 041744 12:52, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Someone added a tag to this section which reads: "The length of this section may adversely affect readability." I think it's of perfect size and 2 paragraphs is definitely not too long. The other tag may have a point, but I suggest removing the first one. The Prince ( talk) 11:19, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
This is a random question, but do most of the games take place in the Milky Way (excepting Prime Hunters)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.131.246.58 ( talk) 03:47, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Article needs a better infobox, or clearer discussion of formats. It is not at all easy to see which formats the games have been released on. Centrepull ( talk) 08:18, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
There is platform info in the text, but I've now added the basic info to the infobox. Centrepull ( talk) 08:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
The story section seems to be superfluous, since it describes information that already exists in the individual articles. I think it should be made into a game list with gampeplay notes on each game. Also, maybe the Antagonists section could be made shorter by forgoing the story summaries.-- ZXCVBNM [ TALK 03:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Metroid Prime is said to occur after Super Metroid. It is noted in a pirate lore that "Zebes has fallen", referring to its destruction. Steamfraiser ( talk) 22:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Can someone clean some of this up? It's kind of an eyesore to read. I'd do it myself, but I suck at organizational skills. Fruckert ( talk) 14:08, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Is it not unfair that the Original Metroid is represented in the Reception scores table by the GBA re-release? The original version was on the NES; the GBA version seems to be considerably worse received by critics than the original. It's confusing and it gives the impression that the original game was of poor/mediocre quality. 87.254.78.91 ( talk) 23:10, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
In Super Metroid, you fight a miniature version of Kraid before fighting Kraid him/her yourself. This is an indication to me that either Kraid is an Asexual being, Kraid is Female, or there are multiple "Kraids". Many people also refer to Kraid as a her, so should we change Kraid to be gender neutral? Refering to him/her as an it? -Digman14 10:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Digman14 ( talk • contribs)
I would assume that the mini Kraid is a clone. The space pirates deal with the technology plenty of times, even cloning the Metroids in Super Metroid, the game where the Kraid and Mini-Kraid are featured.
The result of the move request was: Pages moved Ronhjones (Talk) 01:47, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Metroid (series) → Metroid — Since the launch of the first game Metroid has developed into a wide series consisting of numerous games, a sub-series "Metroid Prime" as well as mangas. Thus Metroid is now more commonly referred to as a series rather than as simply the first game. The move is also supported by the disambiguation section of the naming conventions for the series. Hence the first game should be moved to Metroid (video game) and the series page should be moved to Metroid. An example of how this has been done before is that Final Fantasy directs to the series page while the first game, Final Fantasy is under Final Fantasy (video game) KiasuKiasiMan ( talk) 08:04, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
I am pretty sure that phazon is still around, just less of a threat than it was before Phaaze was destroyed. Phazon does not work like a "hive-mind", because in a hive, only the queen insect (which in this case is Phaaze) reproduces, and none of the workers (Phazon) can. However, Phazon is capable of reproducing itself. Sure, Phaaze was desteroyed, so no more Leviathans could be sent to corrupt other planets, but those planets that were already corrupted and turned into "Phaaze clones" would still be around. 98.242.49.145 ( talk) 17:31, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
...and I can see now that Wikitroid I guess isn't a reliable wiki, but I found that many other sites talked about this Metroid being heavily inspired by Alien, including IGN.com! So, of course, I can understand why it was taken out, but I'm just wondering. I now have 4 more references to that. By the way, I'm new, and I mostly work at those Wikias. -- Gar-Art Studios ( talk) 13:39, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
The storyline section for Metroid Other M is horribly long. I think it should be reduced. -- 190.121.238.135 ( talk) 19:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC) Um, that's because it is a long game. Ian ( talk) 23:21, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
I looked at the "Audio" section and you guys said it was 6 MB was the limit for audio for the early Metroid Prime games? Are you sure? I use GarageBand and Logic Pro 9 and both use up a good 8 MB on 1:30 songs that don't have a lot of effects (Compressor, Echo, Reverb, etc.)! That is over-the-top crucial. Are you sure about that?
-- Gar-Art Studios ( talk) 22:34, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
There should definately be more information about the Super Metroid, it is the most important one after all.-- 67.49.103.120 ( talk) 15:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
You know, I would like to have some more information about it. I think it should go in the artice, in Plot.
Ian (
talk) 06:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
I don't know how to change this stuff, but someone put a line about carrots in russia into the second paragraph of this. Someone should take it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.40.6.118 ( talk) 20:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
On April 1, 2005, IGN posted an April Fool's Day article reporting critically panned director Uwe Boll would be directing the Metroid movie, with Samus being portrayed by Michelle Rodriguez, who stated the Nintendo GameCube is for kids.[48]
Does a rather poor, unlikely and uninteresting april fools joke really need to be here? It's not like the Legend of Zelda live action joke which was and is rather noteworthy. Just because IGN is a popular website doesn't mean everything they do is encyclopedic. While it might make sense in an article about IGN and say a list of their more noteworthy April Fools joke but in an article ON Metroid it feels out of place. - RamdomWolf 198.96.35.166 ( talk) 23:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I agree with you. Not everything from IGN (although it is one of the top gaming sites around) has to be entered into this site. -- Gar-Art Studios ( talk) 02:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Virtually NO MENTION of Metroid Dread? KP McZiggy (Allow Me To Introduce Myself...) 10:42, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Because its fake. Wikipedia is a place for fact, not hoaxes. noskap ( talk) 13:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
It is not fake http://ds.ign.com/articles/107/1077429p1.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.32.82.141 ( talk) 18:17, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
I feel that the line "As well as being one of Nintendo's most financially successful franchises with over 16 million games sold" needs some sort of reference and/or a date. I also don't think that it can be counted as "one of the most successful" when you compare it to the Mario franchise which at >250 million units is more than 15 times that figure. An actual ranking with figures would be better for clarification as to how successful it is/was. 118.209.97.203 ( talk) 12:32, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
The following is grossly incorrect regarding the original game:
“ | The only time the main Metroid theme was heard was after Mother Brain is defeated; this is intended to give the player a catharsis. At all other times, no melodies are present in the game. | ” |
The link given for a reference for this is dead, and it's just not true. The music from the metroid series, and the first game is quite notable and memorable, and in the first game it does play throughout (with different themes for different areas). Check out The Minibosses or play a copy and see for yourself. The rest of the stuff about the audio is interesting, so it would be nice to be able to save it and rewrite to maybe capture what was meant by the composers or otherwise fix this without just ripping the whole bit out. Maybe just taking those two sentences out would do it. I think part of the problem is that this article is for the series and the text seems to refer to specific games in the series. Rifter0x0000 ( talk) 04:34, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
It's annoying that Justin Bailey redirects here but isn't mentioned at all once in the article. -- 67.80.8.233 ( talk) 20:28, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
I have found many more female protagonists in video games before Samus: Leading female characters in video games:
Apple ][: Female player selection (Akalabeth: World of Doom, Origin, 1979)
Arcade: Ms. Pac-Man (Ms. Pac-Man, Bally Midway, 1981)....Lady Bug (Lady Bug, Universal, 1981)
Atari VCS 2600: Billie Sue (Wabbit, Games by Apollo, 1982).... Alice (Alice Adventure, Quelle, 1983).... Blond girl (Ghost Manor, Xonox, 1983, selectable).... Leading Lady (Beat ‘em and eat ‘em, Mystique, 1983).... Strawberry Shortcake (Strawberry Shortcake, Parker, 1983)
Atari 8-bit: Kim Kimberly (Snowball, Return to Eden, Level 9 Computing, 1983, 1984)
Sega SG-1000: Papri (Girl's Garden, Sega, 1984)
Apple ][: Jenny (Jenny of the prairie, Addison Wesley, 1984).... Clair (Cave Girl Clair, Addison Wesley, 1984).... Lauren (Lauren of the 25th century, Addison Wesley, 1984).... Chelsea (Chelsea of the south sea Ilands, Addison Wesley, 1984)
C64: Barbie (Barbie, Epyx, 1984)
NES: Samus Aran (Metroid, Nintendo, 1986) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.158.236.137 ( talk) 20:15, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi
thanks for the answers.
I don't agree with Metroid having an identity, as you didn't even know until the end of the game she was a woman. Throughout the game many players classed her (it?) as an android or robot killing machine.
I heard some kids 'oh she's not a robot, just a girl' comments. Basically she was substituted, it could have been anyone (anything).
Billy Sue in Wabbit (Games by Apollo on Atari VCS 2600) on the other hand, is a real strong character, she was a fighter and had to defend her farm, a very real plot for sure.
Kim Kimberly, another very strong female character, just read about her here on Wiki ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_(game)#Snowball), and you'll see she's like the original Lara Croft, only better.
I realise there are male ladybugs, but in this game from Universal, she's female for sure, just check out the cover from the Coleco conversion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.158.248.10 ( talk) 08:47, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
And I just found out from a professional programmer that Wabbit, the first console video game to feature a female protagonist (Billie Sue) was written by a woman named Ban Tran (Vietnamese), how cool is that!
Follow the story here: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/169826-is-laser-gates-really-inner-space/
The history page doesn'e mention the Fusion title at all. It is my favorite title in the series, so it makes me slightly sad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derfpace ( talk • contribs) 21:32, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
There has been a bit of back-and-forth on this, so rather than add to that I thought I'd bring it here for discussion. The question is, essentially, should Galactic Pinball be included in the timeline and the games section?
It is included in the Games section, stating the game takes place in the Metroid universe, but there is no source backing this up. The most recent edit adding the game to the timeline states that the linked article has information on it. Reading the main Galactic Pinball article, it only mentions that Samus has a cameo in that game, along with Star Fox characters etc. It does not state that the game is set in the Metroid universe, as this article states. Looking at the other games on the list, these are all core Metroid games, not games including Metroid elements as a cameo.
As such, in my opinion, it appears that one of the following is true. First, the game is part of the Metroid universe, but more sources are needed to show this, and the Galactic Pinball article itself probably needs a lot of work. Second, the game is not part of the Metroid universe, and should be removed from the Games section and the timeline. Third, the game is not part of the Metroid universe, but it and other games including Samus as a cameo (most obviously the Smash Bros games) should be added to the game list and timeline.
Thoughts? Aawood ( talk) 12:01, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I noticed that the lead is completely unsourced. I can go ahead and find some sources to implement in that section, if you all think that is necessary. Let me know, thanks! GordonFreeman1 ( talk) 16:46, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
One more thing -- under the "Games" section, where it lists each game released in the Metroid series, should be also include which console each game belongs to? For instance, Metroid Fusion for the Gameboy, Metroid Prime for the Gamecube, etc etc. Let me know if you agree, and I'll go ahead and put that information in. Thanks! GordonFreeman1 ( talk) 16:52, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Are there any sources about the etymology of the name Metroid? Metro is derived from the Greek word for mother, and -oid is a suffix denoting similarity. IsaacAA ( talk) 17:03, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
This seems rather irrelevant since Other M contains glaring continuity flaws, but it says in the plot for Other M that the "Deleter" is thought to be James? I never saw ANY implication of that. James died right after Maurice. By process of elimination, the only Marine that didn't die (besides Anthony) is K.G. We already know Anthony is not the Deleter (the Deleter isn't equipped with a plasma cannon), so it logically follows that K.G is the Deleter, I haven't found any relevant facts showing that the Deleter is James, apart from him surviving apparently the longest time after the assassinations started. Any sources for the "apparent proof" that James is the Deleter would be appreciated, as the article doesn't mention them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.228.139 ( talk) 21:49, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
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A lot of people considered the Metroid Prime series to be a spin-off, should we include it in the infobox? I mean it would make sense, the Metroid series and Prime series' perspective and gameplay is very different. So should we include the Metroid Prime series? GeekFreak98 ( talk) 20:11, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Alright, thank you guys for your time. We'll think about this. GeekFreak98 ( talk) 20:44, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
I found it very odd that the entire Metroidvania genre isn't even mentioned until the last sentence, to an uncited statement. As cleanup is done here, I think we'll have to consider how we work that in a little better. Red Phoenix talk 03:15, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
I'll throw out as well that if we're looking for more cites, fr:Metroid is a featured article in the French Wikipedia, and barring a couple of idiosyncrasies, the references section looks very solid. Sometimes the French writing style I've found too flowery for encyclopedic writing, so a direct translation isn't a good idea, but it has some great resources. Red Phoenix talk 02:31, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
I agree, adding MetroidVania in there would be nessecary in my opinion. I see nothing wrong with that. GeekFreak98 ( talk) 11:44, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
As this article is very well-covered in French, I’m thinking in the next week or so I’ll translate it and put it into a sandbox. Then, we can take the pieces we like and can verify, and that will give immense opportunities for expansion. Red Phoenix talk 01:51, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Super Metroid (sometimes called Metroid 3) is an action-adventure game developed by Nintendo R & D1 and Intelligent Systems, and published by Nintendo for Super Nintendo in March 1994 in Japan then in April in the United States and in July in Europe. It is the third game in the series and a direct sequel to the first two opus.[2][15] The game was reissued in 1995 in the United States in the Player's Choice range.[16] In Japan, the game was re-released in September 1997 via the Nintendo Power cartridge service for Super Nintendo.[17] It was also reissued on the Wii virtual console in the United States in August 2007,[18] in Japan in September of the same year[17] and in Europe in October.[19] The game was subsequently re-released on the Wii U virtual console in May 2013 in Japan[17] and then worldwide.[20][21] It is also reissued on the New Nintendo 3DS virtual console in March in Europe[22] and in April 2016 in Japan[17] and North America.[23] It is also in the game library of the reissue of the Super NES Mini console released at the end of 2017.[24]
Yeah, Popcornfud, this is starting to look bad. Yes, the French sources are actually predominantly English, but there are some French sources there, most curiously a whole book. That being said, I don't know anything about the author and very little about the publisher. I'll leave the sandbox as it is because I do bet there are English and French sources there worth using. (As a side note, a machine translation will work much better for French sources than they would Japanese, as European languages are easier understood by translators and only the jargon might be a little confusing). I am going to abandon the translation at this point, because on reviewing there are some interesting tidbits but not a lot we haven't covered more concisely here. We may instead want to look to the game articles, aside from sources. Red Phoenix talk 01:30, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Something we're missing badly is the series' plot. There's been a template for ages explaining the timeline and how the games are out of sequence from their release date, but it's never been sourced. I've been looking for some sourcing for that but could use assessments of reference reliability and how to use them best..
Red Phoenix talk 02:09, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
@ TheJoebro64: and @ GeekFreak98:. TO avoid an edit war, I thought I bring up the discussion. The reasoning I saw in the edit summaries was because there's a list article for the media. I find this reasoning odd because one of our featured articles, Final Fantasy, uses the same formatting as this article, also has a list of video games and a list of media, and still makes use of a VR release timeline template. Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 15:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm seeing low-level edit warring on its inclusion in the history, so my 2cents: as a fan game that did not influence the main series, it should not be included in the history section, but there absolutely should be a section on this past about games inspired by Metroid (eg Axiom Verge, perhaps Shadow Complex) of which you then can include fan games. This can be wrapped into a Legacy section that includes the current section on Metroidvanias. -- Masem ( t) 21:24, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Since chronological order means groupings of the subseries is no longer possible, such as the original series and the Prime series, I think ordering should reflect the different subseries instead. It's also easier to find information with more structure, instead of walls of nebulous text. Ozdarka ( talk) 14:49, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Anybody thinking of replacing the Metroid logo with the new logo from Metroid™: Samus Returns and Metroid Dread? It would be a cool replacement.
What y'all think? GeekFreak98 ( talk) 13:34, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
What about the lightning bolt symbol that's free? can that one be used? Blue Pumpkin Pie ( talk) 15:23, 28 October 2021 (UTC)