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The animated map shows Algeria as a founding member of NATO. I can find no documentary evidence for this. Is it correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.9.133.231 ( talk) 11:53, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
I've noticed some back and forth editing of the official name in the tables here of the country that was the western half of Czechoslovakia. This isn't the place to debate the correct option, the last move discussion in November lays out the reasoning why "Czech Republic" is still the name of the article in English, and why the editors there are tired of the discussion. I don't have a strong opinion in the debate between the two, only that I don't think this article should act unilaterally with country names and that the first preference for spelling on articles about NATO should be the spelling used by NATO. Above all, the name needs to be consistent within the article. Thanks!-- Patrick, oѺ∞ 12:29, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
NATO changed usage from Czech Republic to Czechia. Danda Panda ( talk) 06:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Use Czechia that is what is used by NATO. By not using it it makes wikipedia look like it is editorializing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.181.122 ( talk) 02:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
The scope of the alliance is not clear in the article. It is not clear in the article why NATO did not react in the Falklands War, and also on what premises NATO has acted beyong its "mutual defense" mission duirng the bombing campaings in Yugoslavia and Libya. Dentren | Talk 15:03, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
I kindly request someone to add a "NATO" line showing the total NATO military personnel etc in the bottom of the table in the NATO military personnel section, just like it is done for the section NATO Military expenditures - unfortunately my poor editing skills doesn't allow me to do it myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.45.52.143 ( talk) 06:33, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
So, the assertion has been made that this article is written in Canadian English and this shouldn't be deviated from without broad consensus. I find the claim dubious, partly because I highly doubt there has ever been any intentional effort to use Canadian English in the article up to this point - more likely, mainly British English and American English have popped up and we ended up with a bit of both. Personally, I don't even know what the conventions of Canadian English are enough to avoid unintentional error. (Although no doubt some helpful Canadian can correct me when I err.) But on reflection, the claim is not obviously wrong, so I'd invite thoughts from other editors on this. -- CAVincent ( talk) 04:17, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Denmark is marked as all of Greenland on the small world maps location... suggest this needs an edit. 2A04:4A43:44BF:E5C9:0:0:1FC6:70C7 ( talk) 08:01, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
Currently the article has two tables providing population figures based on 2021 estimates in the CIA World Factbook. However, the reference link now goes to 2022 CIA estimates. I'm not feeling ambitious enough to update all of these numbers tonight, but it should maybe be done at some point. CAVincent ( talk) 02:53, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
I thought it might be worth memorializing on this talk page that there is a current consensus to consider Turkey to be European for purposes of NATO-related articles. Earlier discussion on the NATO talk page is here: Talk:NATO/Archive 4#Eurasian?. I would also point out that NATO's own website says "The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) is an alliance of 30 countries from North America and Europe" About NATO FAQ. Also noting, Turkey is not the only member with some constituent territory outside of North America and Europe, so quibbling on the matter would raise additional questions. (I'm not saying consensus can't change, I just thought I'd note earlier discussion and provide a place for any user who wishes to question consensus.) CAVincent ( talk) 18:29, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
While checking NATO's website, I noticed that they now list Turkey as Türkiye. Currently, the article uses both spellings/names. I'm going to be bold and change all to Türkiye for 1) consistency, and 2) to match NATO usage. I realize that WP still largely uses Turkey, so fair argument for retaining the older name, but we should at least be consistent within this article. CAVincent ( talk) 05:36, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
I don't know how to edit the map, but I think the colour of Finland and Sweden should be changed to reflect the fact that they are now definitely on the way to becoming NATO members; that is, their accession protocol has been signed, and when all NATO members have individually approved their application, they will then be members. At the moment, their colour is the same as that of Ukraine, which is in a very different stage of application. Also, the text should reflect the preceding. Teemu Leisti ( talk) 02:21, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
Am I misreading the map or is Lithuania listed as a CSTO nation? Tbrogowski ( talk) 19:47, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
List of ISO 3166 country codes - country names are copied from the source, wikipedia common names are not present
List of countries in Member states of the United Nations: "The current members and their dates of admission are listed below with their official designations used by the United Nations."
List of countries in Member states of NATO: nothing, wikipedia common names are used in the list.
Official designations are completelly ignored and ommited, not even mentioned in notes. I think at least notes should be added, differences are for Czechia and Türkiye. Chrz ( talk) 09:28, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
So, NATO uses Czechia, but Wikipedia is like no we don't care we are still going to list it as Czech Republic? Why does Czechia bother some of you so much? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.127.27 ( talk) 22:19, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
How do decided what is common name? your opinion or a wikipedia vote? There has been a bias against Czechia since 2016. Wikipedia always moves the goalposts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.181.122 ( talk) 02:52, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
The map of current Nato members has recently been edited, showing Finland and Sweden as current full Nato members.
As of January 2023, this is incorrect and should be reverted. They are aspiring members, but not actual members. Andy07070 ( talk) 08:37, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
Since Finland has recently joined NATO, the map needs to be updated. Spagheditor ( talk) 11:49, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
3 islands off the coast of Sweden are light blue and need to be changed to dark blue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.98.85.216 ( talk) 20:31, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
The table under "Military personnel" lists 207.7 total per capita for Estonia, making it the highest of the NATO members. However, the corresponding graph ("Comparison of military personnel per 1,000 capita") lists a much lower figure for Estonia, placing it third behind Finland and Greece. 193.170.91.45 ( talk) 12:05, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
I don’t understand why the link to Contiguous states is modified to continental States & then Alaska is then mentioned. First of all, why not simplify and leave the link as is. Or, if there is some reason for msking reference to continental, there is no reason for Alaska to be mentioned, it being on the continent as much as is California and Florida. TomS TDotO ( talk) 10:26, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Strongly recommending that this and other NATO-related articles get "Extended Confirmed" protection for the next few days, until Sweden's accession is actually official. CAVincent ( talk) 22:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
The "Membership aspirations" section states "As of December 2024, three additional states have formally informed NATO of their membership aspirations". As December 2024 has not yet occurred, this appears to be obviously incorrect. The source article mentions the declarations of intent to join NATO occurring no later than 2022.
As I've never contributed to Wikipedia, I'm not sure if this should be changed to "As of 2022" (in alignment with the source) or "As of March 2024" (to indicate the latest status) to best align with Wikipedia's standards, and wanted to bring it to the attention of more active contributors. Thank you. 2603:7081:1200:60CD:5FFE:A74:EAF8:1B7E ( talk) 16:25, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
I think that the Swedish islands of Öland and Gotland should be in the same colour as the NATO member Sweden. Please have a look at the second map from the top.The same goes for the Danish island Bornholm. GustenGast ( talk) 17:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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The animated map shows Algeria as a founding member of NATO. I can find no documentary evidence for this. Is it correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.9.133.231 ( talk) 11:53, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
I've noticed some back and forth editing of the official name in the tables here of the country that was the western half of Czechoslovakia. This isn't the place to debate the correct option, the last move discussion in November lays out the reasoning why "Czech Republic" is still the name of the article in English, and why the editors there are tired of the discussion. I don't have a strong opinion in the debate between the two, only that I don't think this article should act unilaterally with country names and that the first preference for spelling on articles about NATO should be the spelling used by NATO. Above all, the name needs to be consistent within the article. Thanks!-- Patrick, oѺ∞ 12:29, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
NATO changed usage from Czech Republic to Czechia. Danda Panda ( talk) 06:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Use Czechia that is what is used by NATO. By not using it it makes wikipedia look like it is editorializing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.181.122 ( talk) 02:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
The scope of the alliance is not clear in the article. It is not clear in the article why NATO did not react in the Falklands War, and also on what premises NATO has acted beyong its "mutual defense" mission duirng the bombing campaings in Yugoslavia and Libya. Dentren | Talk 15:03, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
I kindly request someone to add a "NATO" line showing the total NATO military personnel etc in the bottom of the table in the NATO military personnel section, just like it is done for the section NATO Military expenditures - unfortunately my poor editing skills doesn't allow me to do it myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.45.52.143 ( talk) 06:33, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
So, the assertion has been made that this article is written in Canadian English and this shouldn't be deviated from without broad consensus. I find the claim dubious, partly because I highly doubt there has ever been any intentional effort to use Canadian English in the article up to this point - more likely, mainly British English and American English have popped up and we ended up with a bit of both. Personally, I don't even know what the conventions of Canadian English are enough to avoid unintentional error. (Although no doubt some helpful Canadian can correct me when I err.) But on reflection, the claim is not obviously wrong, so I'd invite thoughts from other editors on this. -- CAVincent ( talk) 04:17, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Denmark is marked as all of Greenland on the small world maps location... suggest this needs an edit. 2A04:4A43:44BF:E5C9:0:0:1FC6:70C7 ( talk) 08:01, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
Currently the article has two tables providing population figures based on 2021 estimates in the CIA World Factbook. However, the reference link now goes to 2022 CIA estimates. I'm not feeling ambitious enough to update all of these numbers tonight, but it should maybe be done at some point. CAVincent ( talk) 02:53, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
I thought it might be worth memorializing on this talk page that there is a current consensus to consider Turkey to be European for purposes of NATO-related articles. Earlier discussion on the NATO talk page is here: Talk:NATO/Archive 4#Eurasian?. I would also point out that NATO's own website says "The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) is an alliance of 30 countries from North America and Europe" About NATO FAQ. Also noting, Turkey is not the only member with some constituent territory outside of North America and Europe, so quibbling on the matter would raise additional questions. (I'm not saying consensus can't change, I just thought I'd note earlier discussion and provide a place for any user who wishes to question consensus.) CAVincent ( talk) 18:29, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
While checking NATO's website, I noticed that they now list Turkey as Türkiye. Currently, the article uses both spellings/names. I'm going to be bold and change all to Türkiye for 1) consistency, and 2) to match NATO usage. I realize that WP still largely uses Turkey, so fair argument for retaining the older name, but we should at least be consistent within this article. CAVincent ( talk) 05:36, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
I don't know how to edit the map, but I think the colour of Finland and Sweden should be changed to reflect the fact that they are now definitely on the way to becoming NATO members; that is, their accession protocol has been signed, and when all NATO members have individually approved their application, they will then be members. At the moment, their colour is the same as that of Ukraine, which is in a very different stage of application. Also, the text should reflect the preceding. Teemu Leisti ( talk) 02:21, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
Am I misreading the map or is Lithuania listed as a CSTO nation? Tbrogowski ( talk) 19:47, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
List of ISO 3166 country codes - country names are copied from the source, wikipedia common names are not present
List of countries in Member states of the United Nations: "The current members and their dates of admission are listed below with their official designations used by the United Nations."
List of countries in Member states of NATO: nothing, wikipedia common names are used in the list.
Official designations are completelly ignored and ommited, not even mentioned in notes. I think at least notes should be added, differences are for Czechia and Türkiye. Chrz ( talk) 09:28, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
So, NATO uses Czechia, but Wikipedia is like no we don't care we are still going to list it as Czech Republic? Why does Czechia bother some of you so much? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.127.27 ( talk) 22:19, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
How do decided what is common name? your opinion or a wikipedia vote? There has been a bias against Czechia since 2016. Wikipedia always moves the goalposts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.181.122 ( talk) 02:52, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
The map of current Nato members has recently been edited, showing Finland and Sweden as current full Nato members.
As of January 2023, this is incorrect and should be reverted. They are aspiring members, but not actual members. Andy07070 ( talk) 08:37, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
Since Finland has recently joined NATO, the map needs to be updated. Spagheditor ( talk) 11:49, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
3 islands off the coast of Sweden are light blue and need to be changed to dark blue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.98.85.216 ( talk) 20:31, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
The table under "Military personnel" lists 207.7 total per capita for Estonia, making it the highest of the NATO members. However, the corresponding graph ("Comparison of military personnel per 1,000 capita") lists a much lower figure for Estonia, placing it third behind Finland and Greece. 193.170.91.45 ( talk) 12:05, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
I don’t understand why the link to Contiguous states is modified to continental States & then Alaska is then mentioned. First of all, why not simplify and leave the link as is. Or, if there is some reason for msking reference to continental, there is no reason for Alaska to be mentioned, it being on the continent as much as is California and Florida. TomS TDotO ( talk) 10:26, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Strongly recommending that this and other NATO-related articles get "Extended Confirmed" protection for the next few days, until Sweden's accession is actually official. CAVincent ( talk) 22:43, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
The "Membership aspirations" section states "As of December 2024, three additional states have formally informed NATO of their membership aspirations". As December 2024 has not yet occurred, this appears to be obviously incorrect. The source article mentions the declarations of intent to join NATO occurring no later than 2022.
As I've never contributed to Wikipedia, I'm not sure if this should be changed to "As of 2022" (in alignment with the source) or "As of March 2024" (to indicate the latest status) to best align with Wikipedia's standards, and wanted to bring it to the attention of more active contributors. Thank you. 2603:7081:1200:60CD:5FFE:A74:EAF8:1B7E ( talk) 16:25, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
I think that the Swedish islands of Öland and Gotland should be in the same colour as the NATO member Sweden. Please have a look at the second map from the top.The same goes for the Danish island Bornholm. GustenGast ( talk) 17:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)