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Before this gets out of hand, I'll ping editors who have been involved in this page Abrvagl, Kevo327, A455bcd9, LouisAragon.
Abrvagl my question to you is, why did you revert [1] [2] Kevo327 when cited 2 sources aren't reliable? I just looked at your contributions and you didn't edit for almost a week. It seems like whenever Kevo edits (which also happened to be today), you follow him around, still. Did you forget recent ANI and the hounding you were advised against? This is just a testament that you aren't planning to stop it anytime soon. You had literally had 0 edits in this article prior to today, and bam, you're edit-warring now with Kevo (again) out of nowhere. A. C. Santacruz I'm sure you remember this since you advised Abrvagl against hounding. There is clearly a pattern here and Abrvagl doesn't seem show any change.
Did not find RNS where source "deemed unusable". second source also OK for the referenced part.
Also, Abrvagl, you're well aware of the RSN discussion since you asked about it literally below my thread in Morbidthoughts talk page and received an answer. I would definitely Support a one way IBAN or topic ban at this point. You're just being disruptive, edit-warring and restoring poorly sourced content, and still hounding said user. ZaniGiovanni ( talk) 17:30, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
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1. *Did not find RNS where source "deemed unusable". second source also OK for the referenced part.
Sourced content was removed. I find them reliable for the statement they referred for. You might be not. The way to go is a discussion on the talk page.
2. I just looked at your contributions and you didn't edit for almost a week. It seems like whenever Kevo edits (which also happened to be today), you follow him
a. You interested in how I find out this article? No, I don't follow anyone, but I regularly monitor WikiProject Azerbaijan articles.
b. Interesting how did you reach here? 17:21 I asked Kevo327 to start the discussion on the talk page so that we can reach a consensus. 9 minutes later, at 17:30 you started a topic on the talk page with +1,879 bytes of text. Surely it took you at least 5-10 minutes to write it down, which means that you started writing it as soon as I reverted Kevo327's edit. Do you follow me, or are you guys closely cooperating? I did not do the research, but it is not the first time you jump out of nowhere to support Kevo327...may be someone should check this all out for suspicious patterns of WP:CANVASS-ing?
3. you're well aware of the RSN discussion
I am aware of RNS ( Reliable Sources Discussion) discussion, what I am also aware that the RNS discussion did not finish with a decision on whether the source is reliable or not reliable. Can one refer to the not addressed RNS to claim that source unreliable?
4. Did you forget recent ANI and the hounding you were advised against?
I never was advised against hounding because I never was hounding. By the way, I remember just like in this talk page, you jumped into the ANI discussions from nowhere. Other editors even advised you to stop, as you were "unnecessarily involved and opinionated in this thread" and "pouring gasoline near the fire". So how you find out yourself in the middle of the ANI, which was not related to you. was you poinding me or you guys closely cooperating?
5. Also very interesting fact that from the number of editors, who were involved in this page, you pinged LouisAragon, who last time edited this article 2 years ago. Why did you choose him? Is it WP:CANVASS, or do you have different reasoning?
P.S. Let's keep discussions of the talk page related to the talk page. If anyone wants to have healthy discussions on the topic related to the article - I am always happy to join you, other discussions you can take to my talk page or elsewhere.
Regards,
-- Abrvagl ( talk) 19:34, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Dear brother Kevo,
Regarding your revert of the material as "sources are not reliable". I found new sources, can you check them out can provide your comments? I believe there are enough sources to keep the statement you just removed.
1. Həmzə Sultan sarayı 2. http://medeniyyet.az 3. http://mct.gov.az 4. azertag.az
Thanks in advance, Regards, -- Abrvagl ( talk) 19:47, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Kevo, first, the fact that you do not like the sources does not make them "propaganda" sources. Second, all of the provided sources are suitable for the purpose of supporting the statement, that as per Azerbaijan sources this palace's name is Həmzə Sultan sarayı. 1 Source is
I invited you to talk, but you openly ignored me here, and instead of joining in the discussion, you engaged yourself in edit wars.
You already have a number of records, where you were warned for Anti-Azerbaijani bias edits, as you were seeking Azerbaijani related articles where you can delete material, or nominate for speedy deletion, even if the article existed for a long time and nominate for AfD. Your records also show that you actively participate in the voting process for AfD of Azerbaijan related articles, and at all times you always voted "DELETE". Please stop it here.
I again invite you to share your view here. I restore the material, this time also adding additional sources, and removing not sourced parts. -- Abrvagl ( talk) 16:36, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
non of the sources I provided claiming any information about the churchesthat's outright wrong, anyone can easily check the sources and find that. You should read the sources you insert before inserting them. You are WP:BURDENed to provide reliable sources, and to hear and consider the feedback when shown that those sources aren't reliable. Acting blind and claiming otherwise is disruptive. - Kevo327 ( talk) 17:55, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
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Before this gets out of hand, I'll ping editors who have been involved in this page Abrvagl, Kevo327, A455bcd9, LouisAragon.
Abrvagl my question to you is, why did you revert [1] [2] Kevo327 when cited 2 sources aren't reliable? I just looked at your contributions and you didn't edit for almost a week. It seems like whenever Kevo edits (which also happened to be today), you follow him around, still. Did you forget recent ANI and the hounding you were advised against? This is just a testament that you aren't planning to stop it anytime soon. You had literally had 0 edits in this article prior to today, and bam, you're edit-warring now with Kevo (again) out of nowhere. A. C. Santacruz I'm sure you remember this since you advised Abrvagl against hounding. There is clearly a pattern here and Abrvagl doesn't seem show any change.
Did not find RNS where source "deemed unusable". second source also OK for the referenced part.
Also, Abrvagl, you're well aware of the RSN discussion since you asked about it literally below my thread in Morbidthoughts talk page and received an answer. I would definitely Support a one way IBAN or topic ban at this point. You're just being disruptive, edit-warring and restoring poorly sourced content, and still hounding said user. ZaniGiovanni ( talk) 17:30, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Comment:
1. *Did not find RNS where source "deemed unusable". second source also OK for the referenced part.
Sourced content was removed. I find them reliable for the statement they referred for. You might be not. The way to go is a discussion on the talk page.
2. I just looked at your contributions and you didn't edit for almost a week. It seems like whenever Kevo edits (which also happened to be today), you follow him
a. You interested in how I find out this article? No, I don't follow anyone, but I regularly monitor WikiProject Azerbaijan articles.
b. Interesting how did you reach here? 17:21 I asked Kevo327 to start the discussion on the talk page so that we can reach a consensus. 9 minutes later, at 17:30 you started a topic on the talk page with +1,879 bytes of text. Surely it took you at least 5-10 minutes to write it down, which means that you started writing it as soon as I reverted Kevo327's edit. Do you follow me, or are you guys closely cooperating? I did not do the research, but it is not the first time you jump out of nowhere to support Kevo327...may be someone should check this all out for suspicious patterns of WP:CANVASS-ing?
3. you're well aware of the RSN discussion
I am aware of RNS ( Reliable Sources Discussion) discussion, what I am also aware that the RNS discussion did not finish with a decision on whether the source is reliable or not reliable. Can one refer to the not addressed RNS to claim that source unreliable?
4. Did you forget recent ANI and the hounding you were advised against?
I never was advised against hounding because I never was hounding. By the way, I remember just like in this talk page, you jumped into the ANI discussions from nowhere. Other editors even advised you to stop, as you were "unnecessarily involved and opinionated in this thread" and "pouring gasoline near the fire". So how you find out yourself in the middle of the ANI, which was not related to you. was you poinding me or you guys closely cooperating?
5. Also very interesting fact that from the number of editors, who were involved in this page, you pinged LouisAragon, who last time edited this article 2 years ago. Why did you choose him? Is it WP:CANVASS, or do you have different reasoning?
P.S. Let's keep discussions of the talk page related to the talk page. If anyone wants to have healthy discussions on the topic related to the article - I am always happy to join you, other discussions you can take to my talk page or elsewhere.
Regards,
-- Abrvagl ( talk) 19:34, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Dear brother Kevo,
Regarding your revert of the material as "sources are not reliable". I found new sources, can you check them out can provide your comments? I believe there are enough sources to keep the statement you just removed.
1. Həmzə Sultan sarayı 2. http://medeniyyet.az 3. http://mct.gov.az 4. azertag.az
Thanks in advance, Regards, -- Abrvagl ( talk) 19:47, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Kevo, first, the fact that you do not like the sources does not make them "propaganda" sources. Second, all of the provided sources are suitable for the purpose of supporting the statement, that as per Azerbaijan sources this palace's name is Həmzə Sultan sarayı. 1 Source is
I invited you to talk, but you openly ignored me here, and instead of joining in the discussion, you engaged yourself in edit wars.
You already have a number of records, where you were warned for Anti-Azerbaijani bias edits, as you were seeking Azerbaijani related articles where you can delete material, or nominate for speedy deletion, even if the article existed for a long time and nominate for AfD. Your records also show that you actively participate in the voting process for AfD of Azerbaijan related articles, and at all times you always voted "DELETE". Please stop it here.
I again invite you to share your view here. I restore the material, this time also adding additional sources, and removing not sourced parts. -- Abrvagl ( talk) 16:36, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
non of the sources I provided claiming any information about the churchesthat's outright wrong, anyone can easily check the sources and find that. You should read the sources you insert before inserting them. You are WP:BURDENed to provide reliable sources, and to hear and consider the feedback when shown that those sources aren't reliable. Acting blind and claiming otherwise is disruptive. - Kevo327 ( talk) 17:55, 13 April 2022 (UTC)