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Melanesians are melanated Asians. The Connor descent from europeans. That’s impossible
Way too much info about them. They have their own article ( Austronesians). This is about Melanesians. Kortoso ( talk) 17:03, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
I'll probably get flamed for asking this question but ...
It is curious that there is almost nothing said about the predominant physical characteristics of the Melanesian people given that there are obviously substantial differences compared to the Austronesian and Polynesian peoples (this is briefly touched on in the history but not in a significant way). Granted, such a discussion has the potential to descend into a very racist vein (as it appears happened in previous versions of the article). But deliberately avoiding such information seems less than intellectually honest. Just wondering if there is not some appropriate way to touch on this as it obviously says some significant things about the migration patterns of humans in ancient times.
-- MC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.131.2.3 ( talk) 18:50, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
@ John beta: I think the problem of the map is that it follows an outdated theory about human races according to which the Melanesians were a sub-race of the "Negroid race" (while, funny enough, the Maori were seen as "Mongoloid"). If we keep the map, we should at least not hide its origins, that's why I changed the caption. -- Rsk6400 ( talk) 19:09, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
The French map of ‘Melanesian areas of Oceania’ should be deleted as it contains a highly inaccurate depiction of Aboriginal Australian territory. What seems to be shown on this map is areas in central and northern Australia where Aboriginal people live semi-traditionally and have formal political control of their communities. The fact that these things are only present in the areas depicted is the result of European settlement, and it is a damaging piece of misinformation with a long history in Australia that these are the only places that ‘real’ Aboriginal people live. Of course Aboriginal people live all over the continent, in both urban and rural settings, and to actually match the type of territorial information shown on the map for Melanesians and Papuans the entire continent should be colored yellow. I suggest this map be replaced with a more accurate one. 203.166.254.167 ( talk) 22:18, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
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Melanesians are melanated Asians. The Connor descent from europeans. That’s impossible
Way too much info about them. They have their own article ( Austronesians). This is about Melanesians. Kortoso ( talk) 17:03, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
I'll probably get flamed for asking this question but ...
It is curious that there is almost nothing said about the predominant physical characteristics of the Melanesian people given that there are obviously substantial differences compared to the Austronesian and Polynesian peoples (this is briefly touched on in the history but not in a significant way). Granted, such a discussion has the potential to descend into a very racist vein (as it appears happened in previous versions of the article). But deliberately avoiding such information seems less than intellectually honest. Just wondering if there is not some appropriate way to touch on this as it obviously says some significant things about the migration patterns of humans in ancient times.
-- MC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.131.2.3 ( talk) 18:50, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
@ John beta: I think the problem of the map is that it follows an outdated theory about human races according to which the Melanesians were a sub-race of the "Negroid race" (while, funny enough, the Maori were seen as "Mongoloid"). If we keep the map, we should at least not hide its origins, that's why I changed the caption. -- Rsk6400 ( talk) 19:09, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
The French map of ‘Melanesian areas of Oceania’ should be deleted as it contains a highly inaccurate depiction of Aboriginal Australian territory. What seems to be shown on this map is areas in central and northern Australia where Aboriginal people live semi-traditionally and have formal political control of their communities. The fact that these things are only present in the areas depicted is the result of European settlement, and it is a damaging piece of misinformation with a long history in Australia that these are the only places that ‘real’ Aboriginal people live. Of course Aboriginal people live all over the continent, in both urban and rural settings, and to actually match the type of territorial information shown on the map for Melanesians and Papuans the entire continent should be colored yellow. I suggest this map be replaced with a more accurate one. 203.166.254.167 ( talk) 22:18, 26 April 2022 (UTC)