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I have reviewed the article and believe it meets the criteria to be assessed as B class. I made a few minor fixes, please look them over and make sure I didn't incorrectly fix something. I would recommend adding an inline citation for "In a "Making of" feature, Hawkins notes that they believe this film to be the first natural history prequel to every be created." just so no issues are raised over it in a future GAN/FAC. Also, I looked in the two sources after "Meerkat Manor: The Story Begins was well-praised for the extraordinary cinematography, stunning South African backdrop, and in-depth coverage of the meerkats that the television series is known for." and didn't see "stunning" used. This may be considered POV, so consider rewording unless you find a source specifically stating this. If so, add quotation marks around the statement. Other than these few minor issues, good job on your work so far, and I'd recommend taking it to GAN if you can't find any more information to add. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 08:03, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
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Gary King ( talk) 02:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
This article meets the Good Article criteria and has therefore been passed. Gary King ( talk) 02:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
This article doesn't have any free images, and they would be a very good thing. It's clearly difficult to find suitable free images for this article, so I've suggested that an image of one or more of the meerkats which were filmed at the Cotswold Wildlife Park would be relatively easy for someone to find and photograph. I'm not sure why the proposal was undone with the edit summary "why is it necessary?" - this completely misses the point! It is not necessary, but it would certainly add to the article. Warofdreams talk 12:14, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
The article says it's an American documentary film, but it is made by Discovery Films (US) and Oxford Scientific Films (UK) and in fact all the crew (cameramen, sound recordists etc), researchers, writers, in-field producers etc are British, parts of it are filmed in the UK, and IMDB says it's a USA/UK production. The Americans just co-funded it and provided the narration. So why is it down as just American here? if anything, it's more a British production than an American one. 86.133.246.81 ( talk) 17:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi.
You twice reverted my contribution to Meerkat Manor: The Story Begins. The first time appeared to be part of wholesale revert of other vandalism, although looking at the diffs I didn't detect any significant vandalism myself. The second one was clearly in response to my contribution. You posted the following message on the edit summary "(Undid revision 338576375 by 87.252.60.26 (talk) rv; that doesn't make it a British film - considered American by all parties)".
Who are these all parties? It does not apparently include IMDB. The IMDB page at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1204315/ list the country as USA/UK. You should note that Oxford Scientific Films is a British company. The director Chris Barker is British. The Kalahari Meerkat Project was is a research group from Cambridge University. The write Caroline Hawkins is an executive producer at Oxford Scientific Films. She is British. The Official website is http://www.meerkatmanor.co.uk. The original Meerkat Manor programmes were broadcast on the Animal Planet channel (a British division of the Discovery Channel) and the BBC partly funded it. Now I'll grant you that Animal Planet's parent company financed this particular project, but the filming was done by a British company. You'll surely agree that it is somewhat disingenuous to call this a wholly American project, which the previous wording implied.Your revert message said "... that doesn't make it a British film ....", you'll note that the change I made was not intended to imply that it was an entirely British production. I put USA/UK in the summary box, which is in-line with the country of origin section on IMDB. The article is now protected and so I am unable to make a suitable change to the article, but I would be grateful if you could re-instate my previous contribution. Regards 87.252.60.26 ( talk) 18:20, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
To get straight to the point, we don't get to decide the nationaility of this production. We can not create content out of nothing. We follow what the sources say. If reliable sources said this was a Zambian production, that is what the article would say. Beach drifter ( talk) 18:49, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I added "American" to the lead sentence and in retrospect, I labeled it wrongly. I don't think that the film itself needs to establish a clear nationality... if the nationality is disputable, then we should not worry that much about it. We could identify the nationality of the companies involved rather than trying to add one label to the film. Erik ( talk) 19:32, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
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I have reviewed the article and believe it meets the criteria to be assessed as B class. I made a few minor fixes, please look them over and make sure I didn't incorrectly fix something. I would recommend adding an inline citation for "In a "Making of" feature, Hawkins notes that they believe this film to be the first natural history prequel to every be created." just so no issues are raised over it in a future GAN/FAC. Also, I looked in the two sources after "Meerkat Manor: The Story Begins was well-praised for the extraordinary cinematography, stunning South African backdrop, and in-depth coverage of the meerkats that the television series is known for." and didn't see "stunning" used. This may be considered POV, so consider rewording unless you find a source specifically stating this. If so, add quotation marks around the statement. Other than these few minor issues, good job on your work so far, and I'd recommend taking it to GAN if you can't find any more information to add. Happy editing! -- Nehrams2020 ( talk) 08:03, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
This review is transcluded from Talk:Meerkat Manor: The Story Begins/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Gary King ( talk) 01:54, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Gary King ( talk) 02:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
This article meets the Good Article criteria and has therefore been passed. Gary King ( talk) 02:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
This article doesn't have any free images, and they would be a very good thing. It's clearly difficult to find suitable free images for this article, so I've suggested that an image of one or more of the meerkats which were filmed at the Cotswold Wildlife Park would be relatively easy for someone to find and photograph. I'm not sure why the proposal was undone with the edit summary "why is it necessary?" - this completely misses the point! It is not necessary, but it would certainly add to the article. Warofdreams talk 12:14, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
The article says it's an American documentary film, but it is made by Discovery Films (US) and Oxford Scientific Films (UK) and in fact all the crew (cameramen, sound recordists etc), researchers, writers, in-field producers etc are British, parts of it are filmed in the UK, and IMDB says it's a USA/UK production. The Americans just co-funded it and provided the narration. So why is it down as just American here? if anything, it's more a British production than an American one. 86.133.246.81 ( talk) 17:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi.
You twice reverted my contribution to Meerkat Manor: The Story Begins. The first time appeared to be part of wholesale revert of other vandalism, although looking at the diffs I didn't detect any significant vandalism myself. The second one was clearly in response to my contribution. You posted the following message on the edit summary "(Undid revision 338576375 by 87.252.60.26 (talk) rv; that doesn't make it a British film - considered American by all parties)".
Who are these all parties? It does not apparently include IMDB. The IMDB page at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1204315/ list the country as USA/UK. You should note that Oxford Scientific Films is a British company. The director Chris Barker is British. The Kalahari Meerkat Project was is a research group from Cambridge University. The write Caroline Hawkins is an executive producer at Oxford Scientific Films. She is British. The Official website is http://www.meerkatmanor.co.uk. The original Meerkat Manor programmes were broadcast on the Animal Planet channel (a British division of the Discovery Channel) and the BBC partly funded it. Now I'll grant you that Animal Planet's parent company financed this particular project, but the filming was done by a British company. You'll surely agree that it is somewhat disingenuous to call this a wholly American project, which the previous wording implied.Your revert message said "... that doesn't make it a British film ....", you'll note that the change I made was not intended to imply that it was an entirely British production. I put USA/UK in the summary box, which is in-line with the country of origin section on IMDB. The article is now protected and so I am unable to make a suitable change to the article, but I would be grateful if you could re-instate my previous contribution. Regards 87.252.60.26 ( talk) 18:20, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
To get straight to the point, we don't get to decide the nationaility of this production. We can not create content out of nothing. We follow what the sources say. If reliable sources said this was a Zambian production, that is what the article would say. Beach drifter ( talk) 18:49, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I added "American" to the lead sentence and in retrospect, I labeled it wrongly. I don't think that the film itself needs to establish a clear nationality... if the nationality is disputable, then we should not worry that much about it. We could identify the nationality of the companies involved rather than trying to add one label to the film. Erik ( talk) 19:32, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
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