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TRIPLE GODDESS
I removed the reference in this article to Medusa's appearance as being 'hideous'. Prior to her transformation at the hands of Athena, Medusa was considered a great beauty. Athena's curse changed Medusa to the extent that her tresses were as serpents and her gaze could turn living creatures to stone yet accounts never mention any change in her visage. Her face remained the same. The idea that she was ugly to behold may have been propogated by the 1981 film Clash of the Titans where the animators purposefully gave her a hag/serpent-like appearance to give strength to the idea that she was capable of turning others to stone by a mere look. Ø
To me i say Medusa isn't That hideous she's just misunderstood. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.8.212.120 ( talk) 16:53, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
1. Why doesn't this article also mention "medusa" as being a race as well as a specific figure of myth? (Compare Minotaur/Sphinx)
2. Can anyone else confirm my obscure memory of a male medusa being called a medea? 83.109.145.102 17:22, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
I've restored the reference to Might & Magic as this is a valid pop culture reference, particularly as it relates to a very popular title. -- Centauri 04:25, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
What is this: "A myth today is that Medusa presents herself in the form of ***, a mutated human, yearning to interact with society that once shunned her"? There is no source listed and what constitutes "a myth today?" I have removed it, since I googled *** and found no reference. I think it may be vandalized (someone calling a friend a Medusa), but I can neither prove, nor disprove this. If someone knows, they can easily add it back.
Indeed, I think someone has been vandalising here. In the same section, the tidbit of her appearing in the Atmosfear series was taken off. I've since re-added it. 124.177.241.81 06:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
TS. If it has anything to do with Medusa, it belongs here. Clearly the heading "Medusa in popular culture" is enough for others to realise that it has nothing to do with her mythology. You could say that Elizabeth Bathory does not deserve a popular culture section, but she deserves it because it's still FACTS about fiction, and not fiction about fiction. If you can understand that... >_> 124.177.210.91 08:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Is it worth including the fact that Medusa is a group of outcast, violent soldiers used by the American Government for covert operations with the Bourne Trilogy books? Jason Bourne is the most skilled, intelligent and devoted to the Medusa cause, and takes the name of Delta, as in Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta etc etc. Could this symbolise is darker side to the American army? A side which no American wants the world to know about? Just a thought... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.26.82 ( talk) 17:22, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
In the article "Medusa ( Greek: Μέδουσα Médousa, "guardian, protectress" with a footnote "feminine present participle of medein, "to protect, rule over"" "Protect" might not be good: some clown takes issue with this dictionary definition, which is an element in Medon et al. What needs to be done to edit this awfully basic point to make it foolproof, so to speak? -- Wetman 12:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Suggestion: There should be a "in feminism" section, as there's been scholarly discussion on that topic. One example: Laughing with Medusa : classical myth and feminist thought ISBN 019927438X . I'm not familiar with the area or I'd do it myself. Canuckle 15:05, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
"The Laugh of the Medusa"- Hélène Cixous. Very prominent french feminist piece that should definitely be included. —Preceding
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feminism is like racism in my opinion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.78.53.78 ( talk) 21:34, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
There are more words in here about feminism than there are about medusa...perhaps that should be a different article? 192.107.159.198 ( talk) 14:23, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
More politicizing of articles. Get rid of these Gorgons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.71.122 ( talk) 19:31, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
I also find this a bit problematic considering the modern controversial interpretation of Medusa from Feminists takes up more space in the article than actual historical texts, and considering the origin of Medusa which both mentioned here, and in the Gorgon article suggests it was a possible historical memory that should be more important to explore. Currently this article does not feel very neutral as it currently stands. 74.124.162.10 ( talk) 08:17, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
I proposed a merger to Medusa from Medusa and gorgons in popular culture. The following is text copied from that article's Talk page, so that further discussion can continue here -- This is where the Merge tag directs users to. Also, please see the current AfD discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Medusa and gorgons in popular culture Canuckle 21:13, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Begin copijkvb nbmsh\zjncvjadhvddmnddsvdsbvdkjxvdsdan"cultural impact of Medusa" direction, it would be an appropriate part of the Medusa article, which itself needs development in the art and literary representation sections. This would also reinforce the film references as examples of the character's evolvement etc. rather than stand-alone culture references. TheRhani 16:58, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
End copied text. Canuckle 21:13, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I've remmoved the tag.... the in popular culture was specifically moved out for a very good reason, that that stuff was too big to go on this page. Furthermore, the in popular culture article JUST SURVIVED A VOTE TO DELETE. A merge tag is just an attempt to justify getting rid of the in popular culture article when people wanted it there, with comments on that vote not only to keep it but that the info *cannot* go on the main article. A merge not only would go against the keep votes but also the expressed sentiments of many of the people who voted to delete. Consensus has already been firmly established just days ago, so this is completely improper. DreamGuy 21:33, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I added reference to two notable ships that were named after Medusa. For most people, that type of recognition helps demonstrate notability. I don't know if the creature needs that type of help and it might be clutter. Post if you think otherwise. Cheers. Canuckle 20:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I seem to have happened across this page at the same time someone was vandalizing it. I've undone the changes. Is there some sort of procedure for reporting vandals in wikipedia? -- Xaraphim ( talk) 03:18, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
As I understand it, Medusa was the "guardian" of the sixth circle of Hell (or one of them), and quite a few verses in the relevant chapter describe her.
Surely this should be mentioned? Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 03:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't we mention in the article that Medusa's gorgon head is the inspiration for the Versace emblem? --
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She was very beautful —Preceding
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It says in the article that Medus was beheaded while sleeping. But there is also a popular version of it happening a different way. Perseus walked around only looking into his shield. Because he only saw her reflection he didn't turn to stone and killed her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Giveittome667 ( talk • contribs) 18:50, June 14, 2008
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i am having trouble because i can't find a picture of medusa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.121.36.197 ( talk • contribs) 01:02, 24 February 2009
97 edits and whattaya got? Semi-protection would save grown-ups a lot of meaningless labor that they could expend more usefully elsewise.-- Wetman ( talk) 03:03, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
"Medusa was a gorgon, ..." and later... "She also has two gorgon sisters."
Why "has" not "had"? She is dead for quite a long time already :)
92.114.167.126 ( talk) 11:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
I find it funny that in an article describing a mythological creature I find words like "In truth" and "Truthfully". -- Mika1h ( talk) 00:00, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
I understand the versions where Athena willing slept with Poseidon in the goddesses temple but I do not understand the versions where Poseidon raped her in the temple. How could any person think such treatment of a rape victim be "just and well-deserved"?!? Is there an explanation Athena's clearly callous treatment of a victim of a crime she had not control over (especially given her rapist was a freaking god)?-- BruceGrubb ( talk) 08:41, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
There wasn't any "rape". You've been watching the movies. ( 66.235.14.186 ( talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 12:54, 2 October 2010 (UTC).
Ovid, Metamorphoses 4. 770 ff (trans. Melville) (Roman epic C1st B.C. to C1st A.D.) : "[Medousa] was violated in Minerva's [Athena’s] shrine by the Rector Pelagi (Lord of the Sea) [Poseidon]. Jove’s [Zeus'] daughter turned away and covered with her shield her virgin's eyes. And then for fitting punishment transformed the Gorgo's lovely hair to loathsome snakes." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.73.115.240 ( talk) 00:02, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
It is not clear that Ovid is saying she was raped. The Latin is Hanc pelagi rector templo vitiasse Minervae dicitur. The verb being vitiasse a form of he verb vitio which means "to make faulty, injure, spoil, mar, taint, corrupt, infect, vitiate, defile". The translation above translates this as "violated" (which even in English doesn't always mean raped). Brookes More translates the line as: "Fame declares the Sovereign of the Sea attained her [Medusa's] love in chaste Minerva's temple." See [2]. Paul August ☎ 21:53, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
First paragraph and box to the right don't parse in English. This is the English section. We could start a special language section in wiki, stuff that doesn't make any sense in any known language and send all this rubbish there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.229.214.66 ( talk) 03:15, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I made minor corrections and redistributed images inside the article. I have a few comments:
1. In the "Death" subsection, Semnai points to Erinyes. I do not see the word "Semnai" anywhere in the article for the Erinyes. I assume Semnai is another name for Erinyes. Is it correct?
2. Medusa by Caravaggio has two different dates (list and image). The dates should converge to one or to a range of years.
3. I removed the photo of the Rondarini Medusa. It was placed in the "Death" subsection. It belongs to the "Medusa in art" section but if placed there, it overloads the bottom of the page of this article.
4. Who first wrote about Medusa? Was it Ovid?
ICE77 ( talk) 00:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
I heard Medusa was a revered goddess of some nation opposed to Greece or Rome, who, as far as my understanding goes, was similar in character to the Roman goddess Minerva. I had an impression that she was a Carthaginian goddess, but I am not sure. The Romans or Greeks therefore portrayed her as a monster for political purposes. Does anyone have any information about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.246.76 ( talk) 04:11, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Nothing in the article mentioning Athena or Medusa being cursed in some myths. Sad. 72.89.142.128 ( talk) 19:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
I deleted this passage: "While ancient Greek... behind poetry." because it offers inaccurate information. While Pindar does describe Medusa in this way once, he also describes her as snaked haired and grim See: Pindar, Olympian Ode 13.64, 12.12 ff, 10. Meretrixmalefica ( talk) 15:35, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm of north Italian extraction and my family told me when I was little that Medusa stood for Byzantium. There may have been a preceding myth behind it... 67.206.183.6 ( talk) 03:16, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone have any text explaining why, exactly, according to Ovid, Athene both curses and then plots to murder a woman raped in her own temple? The goddess of wisdom, courage and civilization doesn't do this to Cassandra when Ajax rapes at the end of the Trojan War and yet she does this with Medusa. According to David Leeming (2013) Medusa and Poseidon were lovers "[and] Hesiod says that they lay in a beautiful meadow on a bed of flowers" (page 12) but it was only in Roman times that what happened between them was declared a rape. I have no evidence for this OR on my part (which is why I'm putting here, hoping that someone has a text to back this theory up) but has this curse something to do with Athene's and Poseidon's rivalry for the city of Athens? Considering the detail that the Medusa myth goes into in describing all the things Athene does to help Perseus prepare to kill Medusa (the shield, the winged sandals, the kibisis, etc) it gives virtually no reasons for her vindictiveness. Xenomorph erotica ( talk) 15:09, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
It's looking upon Medusa's face that turns victims to stone in the myths, not "gazing directly into her eyes" as stated in the lead paragraph, which is a modern invention (and isn't cited anywhere in the article). Why on earth is this article protected from editing? 92.233.76.159 ( talk) 12:01, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
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There seems to be another interpretation, similar to the feminist one but with an additional twist. This interpretation (which could fairly be called a womanist one) suggests that the “snakes” on Medusa’s head were actually dreadlocks. I keep seeing memes and links to blog posts alleging this. Doing some digging, it seems this theory is based on or inspired by something Martin Bernal wrote in his book Black Athena. Serious historians today don’t consider Bernal’s hypothesis to be supported by evidence. However, if he did in fact put forward the Medusa/dreadlocks interpretation in his book, maybe that should get a brief mention. I don’t have a copy of Bernal’s book so I’ll leave that so someone with access to it. 97.116.51.145 ( talk) 19:52, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
"The 2nd-century BC novelist Dionysios Skytobrachion puts her somewhere in Libya, where Herodotus had said the Berbers originated her myth" May I change the text and link " Libya" to Ancient Libya since back then it was Ancient Libya, not Libya? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:EE2:907:FF00:8829:5595:61AE:4759 ( talk) 00:24, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
As has been discussed above, what Ovid has written does not necessarily mean that Medusa was "raped". Here is the relevant note given in the article:
Recently MacySinrich changed "had sex with" to "raped", making the text inconsistent with the explanatory note. (I revered this change but my revert was undone by same editor. I'm going to revert this change to restore consistency. Unless someone can provide better sources which show Ovid is unambiguously saying she was raped, this seems the best we can do here. Paul August ☎ 13:37, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
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In the chapter Classical mythology, 3rd paragraph about the Roman myth of Medusa. One speaks of the Greek God Poseidon and the Roman God Minerva. It should be Neptune instead of Poseidon, which is also clearly stated in that reference (7) Sigrachaser ( talk) 23:05, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
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TRIPLE GODDESS
I removed the reference in this article to Medusa's appearance as being 'hideous'. Prior to her transformation at the hands of Athena, Medusa was considered a great beauty. Athena's curse changed Medusa to the extent that her tresses were as serpents and her gaze could turn living creatures to stone yet accounts never mention any change in her visage. Her face remained the same. The idea that she was ugly to behold may have been propogated by the 1981 film Clash of the Titans where the animators purposefully gave her a hag/serpent-like appearance to give strength to the idea that she was capable of turning others to stone by a mere look. Ø
To me i say Medusa isn't That hideous she's just misunderstood. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.8.212.120 ( talk) 16:53, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
1. Why doesn't this article also mention "medusa" as being a race as well as a specific figure of myth? (Compare Minotaur/Sphinx)
2. Can anyone else confirm my obscure memory of a male medusa being called a medea? 83.109.145.102 17:22, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
I've restored the reference to Might & Magic as this is a valid pop culture reference, particularly as it relates to a very popular title. -- Centauri 04:25, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
What is this: "A myth today is that Medusa presents herself in the form of ***, a mutated human, yearning to interact with society that once shunned her"? There is no source listed and what constitutes "a myth today?" I have removed it, since I googled *** and found no reference. I think it may be vandalized (someone calling a friend a Medusa), but I can neither prove, nor disprove this. If someone knows, they can easily add it back.
Indeed, I think someone has been vandalising here. In the same section, the tidbit of her appearing in the Atmosfear series was taken off. I've since re-added it. 124.177.241.81 06:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
TS. If it has anything to do with Medusa, it belongs here. Clearly the heading "Medusa in popular culture" is enough for others to realise that it has nothing to do with her mythology. You could say that Elizabeth Bathory does not deserve a popular culture section, but she deserves it because it's still FACTS about fiction, and not fiction about fiction. If you can understand that... >_> 124.177.210.91 08:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Is it worth including the fact that Medusa is a group of outcast, violent soldiers used by the American Government for covert operations with the Bourne Trilogy books? Jason Bourne is the most skilled, intelligent and devoted to the Medusa cause, and takes the name of Delta, as in Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta etc etc. Could this symbolise is darker side to the American army? A side which no American wants the world to know about? Just a thought... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.26.82 ( talk) 17:22, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
In the article "Medusa ( Greek: Μέδουσα Médousa, "guardian, protectress" with a footnote "feminine present participle of medein, "to protect, rule over"" "Protect" might not be good: some clown takes issue with this dictionary definition, which is an element in Medon et al. What needs to be done to edit this awfully basic point to make it foolproof, so to speak? -- Wetman 12:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Suggestion: There should be a "in feminism" section, as there's been scholarly discussion on that topic. One example: Laughing with Medusa : classical myth and feminist thought ISBN 019927438X . I'm not familiar with the area or I'd do it myself. Canuckle 15:05, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
"The Laugh of the Medusa"- Hélène Cixous. Very prominent french feminist piece that should definitely be included. —Preceding
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feminism is like racism in my opinion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.78.53.78 ( talk) 21:34, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
There are more words in here about feminism than there are about medusa...perhaps that should be a different article? 192.107.159.198 ( talk) 14:23, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
More politicizing of articles. Get rid of these Gorgons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.71.122 ( talk) 19:31, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
I also find this a bit problematic considering the modern controversial interpretation of Medusa from Feminists takes up more space in the article than actual historical texts, and considering the origin of Medusa which both mentioned here, and in the Gorgon article suggests it was a possible historical memory that should be more important to explore. Currently this article does not feel very neutral as it currently stands. 74.124.162.10 ( talk) 08:17, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
I proposed a merger to Medusa from Medusa and gorgons in popular culture. The following is text copied from that article's Talk page, so that further discussion can continue here -- This is where the Merge tag directs users to. Also, please see the current AfD discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Medusa and gorgons in popular culture Canuckle 21:13, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Begin copijkvb nbmsh\zjncvjadhvddmnddsvdsbvdkjxvdsdan"cultural impact of Medusa" direction, it would be an appropriate part of the Medusa article, which itself needs development in the art and literary representation sections. This would also reinforce the film references as examples of the character's evolvement etc. rather than stand-alone culture references. TheRhani 16:58, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
End copied text. Canuckle 21:13, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I've remmoved the tag.... the in popular culture was specifically moved out for a very good reason, that that stuff was too big to go on this page. Furthermore, the in popular culture article JUST SURVIVED A VOTE TO DELETE. A merge tag is just an attempt to justify getting rid of the in popular culture article when people wanted it there, with comments on that vote not only to keep it but that the info *cannot* go on the main article. A merge not only would go against the keep votes but also the expressed sentiments of many of the people who voted to delete. Consensus has already been firmly established just days ago, so this is completely improper. DreamGuy 21:33, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I added reference to two notable ships that were named after Medusa. For most people, that type of recognition helps demonstrate notability. I don't know if the creature needs that type of help and it might be clutter. Post if you think otherwise. Cheers. Canuckle 20:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I seem to have happened across this page at the same time someone was vandalizing it. I've undone the changes. Is there some sort of procedure for reporting vandals in wikipedia? -- Xaraphim ( talk) 03:18, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
As I understand it, Medusa was the "guardian" of the sixth circle of Hell (or one of them), and quite a few verses in the relevant chapter describe her.
Surely this should be mentioned? Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 03:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't we mention in the article that Medusa's gorgon head is the inspiration for the Versace emblem? --
Hadseys
10:28, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
She was very beautful —Preceding
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It says in the article that Medus was beheaded while sleeping. But there is also a popular version of it happening a different way. Perseus walked around only looking into his shield. Because he only saw her reflection he didn't turn to stone and killed her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Giveittome667 ( talk • contribs) 18:50, June 14, 2008
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i am having trouble because i can't find a picture of medusa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.121.36.197 ( talk • contribs) 01:02, 24 February 2009
97 edits and whattaya got? Semi-protection would save grown-ups a lot of meaningless labor that they could expend more usefully elsewise.-- Wetman ( talk) 03:03, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
"Medusa was a gorgon, ..." and later... "She also has two gorgon sisters."
Why "has" not "had"? She is dead for quite a long time already :)
92.114.167.126 ( talk) 11:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
I find it funny that in an article describing a mythological creature I find words like "In truth" and "Truthfully". -- Mika1h ( talk) 00:00, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
I understand the versions where Athena willing slept with Poseidon in the goddesses temple but I do not understand the versions where Poseidon raped her in the temple. How could any person think such treatment of a rape victim be "just and well-deserved"?!? Is there an explanation Athena's clearly callous treatment of a victim of a crime she had not control over (especially given her rapist was a freaking god)?-- BruceGrubb ( talk) 08:41, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
There wasn't any "rape". You've been watching the movies. ( 66.235.14.186 ( talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 12:54, 2 October 2010 (UTC).
Ovid, Metamorphoses 4. 770 ff (trans. Melville) (Roman epic C1st B.C. to C1st A.D.) : "[Medousa] was violated in Minerva's [Athena’s] shrine by the Rector Pelagi (Lord of the Sea) [Poseidon]. Jove’s [Zeus'] daughter turned away and covered with her shield her virgin's eyes. And then for fitting punishment transformed the Gorgo's lovely hair to loathsome snakes." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.73.115.240 ( talk) 00:02, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
It is not clear that Ovid is saying she was raped. The Latin is Hanc pelagi rector templo vitiasse Minervae dicitur. The verb being vitiasse a form of he verb vitio which means "to make faulty, injure, spoil, mar, taint, corrupt, infect, vitiate, defile". The translation above translates this as "violated" (which even in English doesn't always mean raped). Brookes More translates the line as: "Fame declares the Sovereign of the Sea attained her [Medusa's] love in chaste Minerva's temple." See [2]. Paul August ☎ 21:53, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
First paragraph and box to the right don't parse in English. This is the English section. We could start a special language section in wiki, stuff that doesn't make any sense in any known language and send all this rubbish there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.229.214.66 ( talk) 03:15, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I made minor corrections and redistributed images inside the article. I have a few comments:
1. In the "Death" subsection, Semnai points to Erinyes. I do not see the word "Semnai" anywhere in the article for the Erinyes. I assume Semnai is another name for Erinyes. Is it correct?
2. Medusa by Caravaggio has two different dates (list and image). The dates should converge to one or to a range of years.
3. I removed the photo of the Rondarini Medusa. It was placed in the "Death" subsection. It belongs to the "Medusa in art" section but if placed there, it overloads the bottom of the page of this article.
4. Who first wrote about Medusa? Was it Ovid?
ICE77 ( talk) 00:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
I heard Medusa was a revered goddess of some nation opposed to Greece or Rome, who, as far as my understanding goes, was similar in character to the Roman goddess Minerva. I had an impression that she was a Carthaginian goddess, but I am not sure. The Romans or Greeks therefore portrayed her as a monster for political purposes. Does anyone have any information about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.246.76 ( talk) 04:11, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Nothing in the article mentioning Athena or Medusa being cursed in some myths. Sad. 72.89.142.128 ( talk) 19:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
I deleted this passage: "While ancient Greek... behind poetry." because it offers inaccurate information. While Pindar does describe Medusa in this way once, he also describes her as snaked haired and grim See: Pindar, Olympian Ode 13.64, 12.12 ff, 10. Meretrixmalefica ( talk) 15:35, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm of north Italian extraction and my family told me when I was little that Medusa stood for Byzantium. There may have been a preceding myth behind it... 67.206.183.6 ( talk) 03:16, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone have any text explaining why, exactly, according to Ovid, Athene both curses and then plots to murder a woman raped in her own temple? The goddess of wisdom, courage and civilization doesn't do this to Cassandra when Ajax rapes at the end of the Trojan War and yet she does this with Medusa. According to David Leeming (2013) Medusa and Poseidon were lovers "[and] Hesiod says that they lay in a beautiful meadow on a bed of flowers" (page 12) but it was only in Roman times that what happened between them was declared a rape. I have no evidence for this OR on my part (which is why I'm putting here, hoping that someone has a text to back this theory up) but has this curse something to do with Athene's and Poseidon's rivalry for the city of Athens? Considering the detail that the Medusa myth goes into in describing all the things Athene does to help Perseus prepare to kill Medusa (the shield, the winged sandals, the kibisis, etc) it gives virtually no reasons for her vindictiveness. Xenomorph erotica ( talk) 15:09, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
It's looking upon Medusa's face that turns victims to stone in the myths, not "gazing directly into her eyes" as stated in the lead paragraph, which is a modern invention (and isn't cited anywhere in the article). Why on earth is this article protected from editing? 92.233.76.159 ( talk) 12:01, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
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There seems to be another interpretation, similar to the feminist one but with an additional twist. This interpretation (which could fairly be called a womanist one) suggests that the “snakes” on Medusa’s head were actually dreadlocks. I keep seeing memes and links to blog posts alleging this. Doing some digging, it seems this theory is based on or inspired by something Martin Bernal wrote in his book Black Athena. Serious historians today don’t consider Bernal’s hypothesis to be supported by evidence. However, if he did in fact put forward the Medusa/dreadlocks interpretation in his book, maybe that should get a brief mention. I don’t have a copy of Bernal’s book so I’ll leave that so someone with access to it. 97.116.51.145 ( talk) 19:52, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
"The 2nd-century BC novelist Dionysios Skytobrachion puts her somewhere in Libya, where Herodotus had said the Berbers originated her myth" May I change the text and link " Libya" to Ancient Libya since back then it was Ancient Libya, not Libya? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:EE2:907:FF00:8829:5595:61AE:4759 ( talk) 00:24, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
As has been discussed above, what Ovid has written does not necessarily mean that Medusa was "raped". Here is the relevant note given in the article:
Recently MacySinrich changed "had sex with" to "raped", making the text inconsistent with the explanatory note. (I revered this change but my revert was undone by same editor. I'm going to revert this change to restore consistency. Unless someone can provide better sources which show Ovid is unambiguously saying she was raped, this seems the best we can do here. Paul August ☎ 13:37, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
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In the chapter Classical mythology, 3rd paragraph about the Roman myth of Medusa. One speaks of the Greek God Poseidon and the Roman God Minerva. It should be Neptune instead of Poseidon, which is also clearly stated in that reference (7) Sigrachaser ( talk) 23:05, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
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