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(The following part of a post is copied from matriarchy Talk: Nick Levinson ( talk) 14:51, 14 June 2012 (UTC))
If someone has a chance to look, there are some papers that discuss Young & Wilmott's Family & Kinship in East London on (white) working-class British families in terms of matrifocality. Itsmejudith ( talk) 18:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
An apparent source on matrifocality, but I don't want to evaluate it for Wikipedia: <ref>Tantiwiramanond, Darunee, & Shashi Pandey, ''The Status and Role of Thai Women in the Pre-Modern Period: A Historical and Cultural Perspective'', in ''Sojourn: Journal of Social Issues in Southeast Asia'', vol. 2, no. 1 (February, 1987), p. 127 and probably ''ff.'' (author Tantiwiramanond fellow, Women's Studies Research Center, Univ. of Wisc., & author Pandey fellow, Land Tenure Ctr., Univ. of Wisc.) (in ''JStor'' (database) (subscription may be required)).</ref> Nick Levinson ( talk) 20:44, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
The merger of gynarchy into this article has been questioned. See Talk:Gynarchy#IP's proposal to merge with Matriarchy and please discuss there, not here, to centralize discussion. Nick Levinson ( talk) 16:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
A discussion about the merging nearly a year ago of the gynarchy article into this article has been newly begun as part of another discussion at Talk:Matriarchy#main definitions besides feminist. Nick Levinson ( talk) 20:59, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
If a patriarchy is the system by which a father leads a household, wouldn't matriarchy be the system by which a mother leads a household? It would then make sense that Matrifocal families are a matriarchal system. A google search for 'matriarch' indicates this use of the term. The first result that isn't a dictionary definition is an article describing the female head of a household. Further searching indicates a consensus: A woman in charge of a family is a matriarch. If this is the case, we should make it clear in the article that a matrifocal family is a matriarchy, or perhaps consider merging this article into the matriarchy article. Flameoguy ( talk) 20:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Matrifocal families as discussed by 20th-century anthropologists are not necessarily paradises of female empowerment, but rather societies where the mother-child bond tends to be much stronger than the bond between the parents of a child, or than the father-child bond. It does NOT mean that women have the best-paying jobs or the most-powerful positions in society. In a "primitive" patriarchy (or, theoretically, matriarchy), the family lineage is the main organizing unit within society, so power within the family means power within the society. That's not true for the societies where matrifocal families are found... AnonMoos ( talk) 00:27, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
In the very first sentence of this article, it says "A matrifocal family structure is one where mothers head families and fathers play a less important role in the home and in bringing up children.". While Feminism article defines itself as "a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social equality of sexes." Either this is clearly incorrect or I not understand Feminism correctly because "matrifocal family" is by definition unequally favours women. Can somebody elaborate on this or remove the reference for being part of Feminism! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raees Iqbal ( talk • contribs) 21:34, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
The definition for matrifocal is wrong and down right inaccurate. 2601:8D:8901:75B0:951D:E55A:7179:7882 ( talk) 22:58, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
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(The following part of a post is copied from matriarchy Talk: Nick Levinson ( talk) 14:51, 14 June 2012 (UTC))
If someone has a chance to look, there are some papers that discuss Young & Wilmott's Family & Kinship in East London on (white) working-class British families in terms of matrifocality. Itsmejudith ( talk) 18:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
An apparent source on matrifocality, but I don't want to evaluate it for Wikipedia: <ref>Tantiwiramanond, Darunee, & Shashi Pandey, ''The Status and Role of Thai Women in the Pre-Modern Period: A Historical and Cultural Perspective'', in ''Sojourn: Journal of Social Issues in Southeast Asia'', vol. 2, no. 1 (February, 1987), p. 127 and probably ''ff.'' (author Tantiwiramanond fellow, Women's Studies Research Center, Univ. of Wisc., & author Pandey fellow, Land Tenure Ctr., Univ. of Wisc.) (in ''JStor'' (database) (subscription may be required)).</ref> Nick Levinson ( talk) 20:44, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
The merger of gynarchy into this article has been questioned. See Talk:Gynarchy#IP's proposal to merge with Matriarchy and please discuss there, not here, to centralize discussion. Nick Levinson ( talk) 16:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
A discussion about the merging nearly a year ago of the gynarchy article into this article has been newly begun as part of another discussion at Talk:Matriarchy#main definitions besides feminist. Nick Levinson ( talk) 20:59, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
If a patriarchy is the system by which a father leads a household, wouldn't matriarchy be the system by which a mother leads a household? It would then make sense that Matrifocal families are a matriarchal system. A google search for 'matriarch' indicates this use of the term. The first result that isn't a dictionary definition is an article describing the female head of a household. Further searching indicates a consensus: A woman in charge of a family is a matriarch. If this is the case, we should make it clear in the article that a matrifocal family is a matriarchy, or perhaps consider merging this article into the matriarchy article. Flameoguy ( talk) 20:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Matrifocal families as discussed by 20th-century anthropologists are not necessarily paradises of female empowerment, but rather societies where the mother-child bond tends to be much stronger than the bond between the parents of a child, or than the father-child bond. It does NOT mean that women have the best-paying jobs or the most-powerful positions in society. In a "primitive" patriarchy (or, theoretically, matriarchy), the family lineage is the main organizing unit within society, so power within the family means power within the society. That's not true for the societies where matrifocal families are found... AnonMoos ( talk) 00:27, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
In the very first sentence of this article, it says "A matrifocal family structure is one where mothers head families and fathers play a less important role in the home and in bringing up children.". While Feminism article defines itself as "a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social equality of sexes." Either this is clearly incorrect or I not understand Feminism correctly because "matrifocal family" is by definition unequally favours women. Can somebody elaborate on this or remove the reference for being part of Feminism! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raees Iqbal ( talk • contribs) 21:34, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
The definition for matrifocal is wrong and down right inaccurate. 2601:8D:8901:75B0:951D:E55A:7179:7882 ( talk) 22:58, 14 July 2023 (UTC)