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There is a lot of pertinent information but I feel that the content in some of the sections is quite repetitive and, as mentioned by others before, not well referenced. T.M. ( talk) 19:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
This article has a lot of good information, but I think that it could stand to be simplified, with links to more detail explainations for those who want more (e.g. make a mating type switch section, a detailed section on the regulation of a and alpha genes) Sir1 05:30, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
This article definitely should be simplified and merged with either yeast or Saccharomyces cerevisiae. -- LostLeviathan 19:44, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
This is a nice, possibly graduate level, summary of one of the basic mechanisms of control of gene expression, the concept of how a few 'actors' can produce multiple results, depending on how they interact with each other, and what genetic targets are available. There is more detail on the mechanism of the mating type switch, and why it usually results in a switch of type, in the Lodish reference]18:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Can diploid cells mate? Not clear in the article. 129.31.72.52 15:27, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Answer to previous question: no, a/α diploids cannot mate.
And I was wondering: there is no discussion of the events that occur after an a meets an α, and that's when things get even more interesting. Woodlore ( talk) 01:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
For reasons that are not well understood, the repair of the MAT locus after cutting by the HO endonuclease almost always results in a mating type switch.
http://genesdev.cshlp.org/content/12/11/1726.abstract Mcm1 regulates donor preference controlled by the recombination enhancer in Saccharomyces mating-type switching —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.184.111.79 ( talk) 18:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Is this about Saccharomyces or yeast in general? The article keeps switching back and forth in mid-text. CarlFink ( talk) 04:24, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Can someone explain the apparent convention on bolding the a but not the α mating type? There's nothing on it in the article. Kajabla ( talk) 16:55, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
The amount of detail in the article is great, but could definitely be more concise. The majority of the article has no references, and while it is extremely detailed about all of the factors and steps leading up to how Saccharomyces mates, the article stops short of explaining the actual mechanism of reproduction, which seems like an extremely important part of your topic, and there is not a single mention of how that mating might physically occur.
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With this edit and the next one, User:Boghog has repeated a behaviour that I have warned him for repeatedly in the past, changing the article's reference style, without consensus and contrary to Wikipedia policy, to Vancouver from the established Last, First style for citation authors. This appears to be a direct violation of WP:CITET, which states in terms "Because templates can be contentious, editors should not add citation templates, or change an article with a consistent citation format to another, without gaining consensus" (its emphasis).
I intend to revert this unjustified (and I believe wholly unjustifiable) change, but wish to hear first if there are any good reasons for such a change here. Further, I'm minded to investigate Boghog's conduct on other articles; I had imagined he had stopped doing this (there was no more trouble in Evolutionary Biology), but it seems I was over-optimistic in this regard. If contrary-to-policy edits are numerous rather than the odd individual mistake, then clearly action would be required to prevent any recurrence. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 12:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
imposing one style on an article with inconsistent citation stylesis generally considered helpful. Therefore, my edits were consistent with CITEVAR. According to CITEVAR, if there is a disagreement about which citation style should be used in an article, it should be decided by consensus on the article's talk page, and I will abide by that. Personally, I am in favor of using the Vancouver style.
User:RowanJ LP: Given that you have nominated this article for a GAN (Good Article Nomination) review, I would like to clear up the dispute about the citation style (see above) to ensure it doesn't interfere with the review process. Do you have a preference? Good luck with the review! Cheers. Boghog ( talk) 15:35, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
I really don't have a preference. Boghog ( talk) 16:43, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for stating your view. What you are missing here is that those citations were added in a single edit by Chaya5260, the only edit that user has ever made to the article. This does not "establish a style"; it was a fire-and-forget edit, using a mix of styles, not following the previous style, and the article, being very technical, was then basically untouched for years. There was one other fire-and-forget contribution, by Claudine.lebosquain on 21 March 2014, at 'Decision to mate' which added 3 refs, none of them Vancouver, so she didn't even look at styles either; after that there were only minor "gnome"-style edits which do not imply that any editor even looked at the citations until RowanJ LP's edits of 9 May 2024, which we are now considering. So, no style can be remotely called "established" at any time during this article's evolution. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 06:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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There is a lot of pertinent information but I feel that the content in some of the sections is quite repetitive and, as mentioned by others before, not well referenced. T.M. ( talk) 19:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
This article has a lot of good information, but I think that it could stand to be simplified, with links to more detail explainations for those who want more (e.g. make a mating type switch section, a detailed section on the regulation of a and alpha genes) Sir1 05:30, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
This article definitely should be simplified and merged with either yeast or Saccharomyces cerevisiae. -- LostLeviathan 19:44, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
This is a nice, possibly graduate level, summary of one of the basic mechanisms of control of gene expression, the concept of how a few 'actors' can produce multiple results, depending on how they interact with each other, and what genetic targets are available. There is more detail on the mechanism of the mating type switch, and why it usually results in a switch of type, in the Lodish reference]18:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Can diploid cells mate? Not clear in the article. 129.31.72.52 15:27, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Answer to previous question: no, a/α diploids cannot mate.
And I was wondering: there is no discussion of the events that occur after an a meets an α, and that's when things get even more interesting. Woodlore ( talk) 01:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
For reasons that are not well understood, the repair of the MAT locus after cutting by the HO endonuclease almost always results in a mating type switch.
http://genesdev.cshlp.org/content/12/11/1726.abstract Mcm1 regulates donor preference controlled by the recombination enhancer in Saccharomyces mating-type switching —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.184.111.79 ( talk) 18:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Is this about Saccharomyces or yeast in general? The article keeps switching back and forth in mid-text. CarlFink ( talk) 04:24, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Can someone explain the apparent convention on bolding the a but not the α mating type? There's nothing on it in the article. Kajabla ( talk) 16:55, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
The amount of detail in the article is great, but could definitely be more concise. The majority of the article has no references, and while it is extremely detailed about all of the factors and steps leading up to how Saccharomyces mates, the article stops short of explaining the actual mechanism of reproduction, which seems like an extremely important part of your topic, and there is not a single mention of how that mating might physically occur.
Ags5930 (
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02:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
With this edit and the next one, User:Boghog has repeated a behaviour that I have warned him for repeatedly in the past, changing the article's reference style, without consensus and contrary to Wikipedia policy, to Vancouver from the established Last, First style for citation authors. This appears to be a direct violation of WP:CITET, which states in terms "Because templates can be contentious, editors should not add citation templates, or change an article with a consistent citation format to another, without gaining consensus" (its emphasis).
I intend to revert this unjustified (and I believe wholly unjustifiable) change, but wish to hear first if there are any good reasons for such a change here. Further, I'm minded to investigate Boghog's conduct on other articles; I had imagined he had stopped doing this (there was no more trouble in Evolutionary Biology), but it seems I was over-optimistic in this regard. If contrary-to-policy edits are numerous rather than the odd individual mistake, then clearly action would be required to prevent any recurrence. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 12:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
imposing one style on an article with inconsistent citation stylesis generally considered helpful. Therefore, my edits were consistent with CITEVAR. According to CITEVAR, if there is a disagreement about which citation style should be used in an article, it should be decided by consensus on the article's talk page, and I will abide by that. Personally, I am in favor of using the Vancouver style.
User:RowanJ LP: Given that you have nominated this article for a GAN (Good Article Nomination) review, I would like to clear up the dispute about the citation style (see above) to ensure it doesn't interfere with the review process. Do you have a preference? Good luck with the review! Cheers. Boghog ( talk) 15:35, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
I really don't have a preference. Boghog ( talk) 16:43, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for stating your view. What you are missing here is that those citations were added in a single edit by Chaya5260, the only edit that user has ever made to the article. This does not "establish a style"; it was a fire-and-forget edit, using a mix of styles, not following the previous style, and the article, being very technical, was then basically untouched for years. There was one other fire-and-forget contribution, by Claudine.lebosquain on 21 March 2014, at 'Decision to mate' which added 3 refs, none of them Vancouver, so she didn't even look at styles either; after that there were only minor "gnome"-style edits which do not imply that any editor even looked at the citations until RowanJ LP's edits of 9 May 2024, which we are now considering. So, no style can be remotely called "established" at any time during this article's evolution. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 06:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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