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How to find a job to marysville if we speak not very well english and also came from another country?
Thank's
Just wondering what the practice is to document things about a city that are more cultural, economical, etc. For example, Marysville and Union County are home to Honda mfg, Scotts and Goodyear mfg, TRC, a number of covered bridges, a good economy, etc.
It is untrue that Marysville is the only place Honda Accords are manufactured. The vehicle is also manufactured at additional Honda factories around the world, though the Marysville plant is certainly the leader in production. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.108.109.116 ( talk) 14:47, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
The goal of the article is to portray Marysville in as accurate a light as possible - nowhere does the article claim that Marysville is the "greatest community." If you believe there are political, economic, educational, and social problems worth noting in Marysville that have not been represented in the article and you have evidence you can cite, please feel free to edit the article as you wish. Do not complain if you will not take action to rectify any errors or misrepresentations you find in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blue Mage Az ( talk • contribs) 21:01, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Hello everybody. I have added the photo of the Union County Courthouse, is that right for the article? I have been to Marysville when I come there on a schoolar exchange with my High School in Spain, Europe, to Marysville High School. I also have added some information and the school seal to the high school article. How do you think this article can be improved now? M.Jovellanos ( talk) 08:19, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
An edit I made that removed the banner at the top of the page was reverted, with the reverter ( Wiki Historian N OH) citing "This is a rare honor bestowed on American cities, warranting the special recognition through the banner." I checked random other cities with this distinction and none of them have the banner. If it's so special, either ALL United States cities must have the banner or none of them should. Jrcla2 ( talk) 03:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
please acknowledge this debate has been had and editors have left it in place [1]
The banner is neutral. The banner is unbiased. The banner is factual.
The banner is not a plaudit; it's a federal designation, unlike an Academy Award or Cy Young Award. This city didn't win an award, it received a designation.
The article is on a political entity with the federal designation highlighted through the banner. The political existence of this city is attached to the political designation it received. Everything in the article attaches to the banner as the designation is for heritage, unlike the role of an actor which is merely a few months in their entire existence (although one's life experience contributes to artistic development). Thus, unlike an actor who wins an award for one role filmed over a year, or a scientist who wins an award for one aspect of his life, cities receive federal designations for their entire existence spanning centuries. The only weight the banner places in the article is the weight of the entire article itself, not just one aspect of it lacking an attachment to everything else. Therefore it is neutral, unbiased, and factual concerning the arguments you have put forward.
Approach the debate from that deduction and explain your reasoning since your arguments proffered above really don't hold up
Wiki Historian N OH ( talk) 06:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Ohioreader ( talk) 18:24, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
An ambiguous issue. A banner "The Shaded City" to highlight the nickname would be considered unreasonable.
Wiki Historian N OH ( talk) 08:24, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
I will list some of your points, italicized, and reply.
Do National Register of Historic Places infoboxes place undo weight on a particular designation in an article? Wiki Historian N OH
I strongly advise you to sit back and do a bit of self-examination. To wit:
Wiki Historian N OH's sincerity is obvious, as is his devotion to this fine hamlet. But as I see it, he's not even standing on ice, he's imagining himself walking on water. Look, I posed a number of questions and made a number of arguments, and he's largely ignored them. More to the point, several of his points strike me as incoherent, not only logically, but gramatically. To wit:
Additionally, he has been mildly uncivil to some of his fellow editors, completely ignoring their points, making accusations of vandalism, and denying any possible sound reasoning on the part of anyone but himself. [3]. He often restores his banner without so much as an explanation, [4] [5] even though everyone who has ever removed it (as far as I have seen) has provided an edit summary explaining their decision to remove it. [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]
Finally, and most importantly, he is completely outnumbered in this discussion, yet refuses to yield in any way. Here's my count on this issue:
Opposing the banner
Supporting the banner
Of course, my guess is that Wiki Historian N OH feels that since some of these editors dropped the argument after he reverted them, that they are conceding his point. This is an unsound conclusion. Not one editor has ever said that Wiki Historian N OH has convinced him of his points (such as they are) or that the banner should remain. I think it far more likely that they just didn’t feel like arguing the point further. The fact remains that his is a totally solitary voice in favor of retaining the banner in question.
And, as the editor with nearly half of all edits ever on this article, he is a poster child for WP:OWN (but he apparently has some other interpretation of this that I could not understand [12]).
My inclination is to assume that Wiki Historian N OH is sincere, but misguided. But if he does not either a) yield to the clear consensus, or b) advance some more convincing arguments, I will need to bring this to WP:ANI. I'm out. 98.82.23.93 ( talk) 00:55, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
I can't believe that Wiki Historian can read what I have here and then have the temerity to write:
This is absurd, and I am at a loss to explain how WHist can write this. He has repeatedly ignored everyone else's arguments, and when I concede that he has an interesting point (note: not necessarily a correct point, merely an interesting one), he turns that into a supposed concession.
Wiki Historian writes in his edit summary that he is doing it "pending controlling authority". Sir, the primary controlling authority on Wikipedia is consensus. And it is against you. I urge you to cease until such time as you can show that someone else supports your position on this. I am reverting. 98.82.23.93 ( talk) 16:14, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Wiki Historian N OH ( talk) 21:33, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
From an outsider's view, yes, the banner is completely out of place and inappropriate. Mentioning it in the article is appropriate, but care must be taken that it doesn't take up too much space or have too much detail, which this appears to. It could be summed up in just a few sentences in the History section to be honest. It really doesn't need its own section.
There are an enormous amount of point of view words, excessive detail, and boosterism abounding in this article. Editors need to remember that they are editing according to established Wikipedia standards, not simply as residents of a particular town. When we edit as "residents" it's easy to get carried away with details and making the town look good rather than providing a neutral, reliably-sourced, encyclopedic article. This article has tons of sources and a great foundation, but lots of unsourced boosterism/POV statements like "vibrant economy", for instance, that make this article read far more like a town promotional brochure than an encyclopedic article. Also watch out for excessive detail, particularly in the History section. WP:USCITY guidelines recommend that if it has over 10 paragraphs and uses subheadings, a "History of..." page might be appropriate with a much smaller summary in the main article. The idea of city articles is to give a thorough, but still general, idea of a particular town, not dive into detail about every aspect in the town.
Another issue is that of pictures. Pictures of Laura Bush and Al Gore are inappropriate for this article in the context they are used. This article is about Marysville, so pictures in the article need to be directly related to the town and the section they are in, not tangentially related because Laura Bush gave the designation or Al Gore used a product made in the town. Pictures of them tell us nothing about Marysville. The only time pictures of individuals are appropriate is in the Notable natives and residents section or in the History section for individuals who were directly part of the town's history. -- JonRidinger ( talk) 05:17, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
There are literally hundreds of thousands of designations and honors that are awarded to people, places, and things. Wikipedia does not draw special attention to any of them by having a banner at the top of the article. The proper thing to do is create an appropriate category if the designation is notable and add the category to the article. -- NeilN talk to me 06:34, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
<----I think what you mean to say is that the references need proper attribution (title, author, publication date, etc.). A weblink is not necessary (though it should be included where possible) as many books are not available online. Not having a weblink doesn't make them any less reliable as sources. -- JonRidinger ( talk) 02:05, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Wow. Talk about a hack job on this article and weasel editing. Would some mind repairing it as the edits have completely thrown the article out of wack. Also please replace the notable residents removed. Complete disgrace. That is the sad thing about Wikipedia, even the village idiots can edit.
Wiki Historian N OH ( talk) 20:40, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
There is ALOT of references like "Marysville JT, City Receives" and "History, Union County, p. 274". These references don't list when it was published, who wrote it, when it was found, where it can be found, or anything. Just some vague reference. I don't find these as good references and they populate the page. What should be done? - NeutralHomer • Talk • 09:21, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone think that we should add this to the Peer Review page at WP:PR for more eyes who focus on geography and towns in their editing can sift through this mess-of-a-page and see if anything needs deleted or added? - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:32, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I had to to leave before I could post my reasons for the undos (hopefully the edit summaries gave a clear indication) but here they are:
Should this section stay in the article? Most decent sized towns have branches from various banks. -- NeilN talk to me 04:49, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
There seem to be a lot of nice, but not necessarily relevant or helpful, photos in this article. Does anyone else think it might be worth moving all of them to Wikimedia Commons under a newly created category called "Marysville, Ohio"? That way, the photos that do illustrate or clarify topics in the article can be used, but the ones that aren't would still be accessible via a WM Commons link (e.g.: {{commons cat|Marysville, Ohio}}). I'm not too good with pictures so I'm not volunteering to do it, I just thought it might be worth discussing. Jrcla2 ( talk) 03:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
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Marysville has had a flag for about half a decade I believe at this point, but it still isn't on the Wikipedia article for it. I've never edited a Wikipedia article before, let alone add an image, so I'm a bit skeptical on doing it myself, especially because I don't know the specific rules on how to format it properly, & so on. Should the flag be added? & if so, how? Bluebanana2121 ( talk) 19:36, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
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How to find a job to marysville if we speak not very well english and also came from another country?
Thank's
Just wondering what the practice is to document things about a city that are more cultural, economical, etc. For example, Marysville and Union County are home to Honda mfg, Scotts and Goodyear mfg, TRC, a number of covered bridges, a good economy, etc.
It is untrue that Marysville is the only place Honda Accords are manufactured. The vehicle is also manufactured at additional Honda factories around the world, though the Marysville plant is certainly the leader in production. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.108.109.116 ( talk) 14:47, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
The goal of the article is to portray Marysville in as accurate a light as possible - nowhere does the article claim that Marysville is the "greatest community." If you believe there are political, economic, educational, and social problems worth noting in Marysville that have not been represented in the article and you have evidence you can cite, please feel free to edit the article as you wish. Do not complain if you will not take action to rectify any errors or misrepresentations you find in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blue Mage Az ( talk • contribs) 21:01, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Hello everybody. I have added the photo of the Union County Courthouse, is that right for the article? I have been to Marysville when I come there on a schoolar exchange with my High School in Spain, Europe, to Marysville High School. I also have added some information and the school seal to the high school article. How do you think this article can be improved now? M.Jovellanos ( talk) 08:19, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
An edit I made that removed the banner at the top of the page was reverted, with the reverter ( Wiki Historian N OH) citing "This is a rare honor bestowed on American cities, warranting the special recognition through the banner." I checked random other cities with this distinction and none of them have the banner. If it's so special, either ALL United States cities must have the banner or none of them should. Jrcla2 ( talk) 03:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
please acknowledge this debate has been had and editors have left it in place [1]
The banner is neutral. The banner is unbiased. The banner is factual.
The banner is not a plaudit; it's a federal designation, unlike an Academy Award or Cy Young Award. This city didn't win an award, it received a designation.
The article is on a political entity with the federal designation highlighted through the banner. The political existence of this city is attached to the political designation it received. Everything in the article attaches to the banner as the designation is for heritage, unlike the role of an actor which is merely a few months in their entire existence (although one's life experience contributes to artistic development). Thus, unlike an actor who wins an award for one role filmed over a year, or a scientist who wins an award for one aspect of his life, cities receive federal designations for their entire existence spanning centuries. The only weight the banner places in the article is the weight of the entire article itself, not just one aspect of it lacking an attachment to everything else. Therefore it is neutral, unbiased, and factual concerning the arguments you have put forward.
Approach the debate from that deduction and explain your reasoning since your arguments proffered above really don't hold up
Wiki Historian N OH ( talk) 06:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Ohioreader ( talk) 18:24, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
An ambiguous issue. A banner "The Shaded City" to highlight the nickname would be considered unreasonable.
Wiki Historian N OH ( talk) 08:24, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
I will list some of your points, italicized, and reply.
Do National Register of Historic Places infoboxes place undo weight on a particular designation in an article? Wiki Historian N OH
I strongly advise you to sit back and do a bit of self-examination. To wit:
Wiki Historian N OH's sincerity is obvious, as is his devotion to this fine hamlet. But as I see it, he's not even standing on ice, he's imagining himself walking on water. Look, I posed a number of questions and made a number of arguments, and he's largely ignored them. More to the point, several of his points strike me as incoherent, not only logically, but gramatically. To wit:
Additionally, he has been mildly uncivil to some of his fellow editors, completely ignoring their points, making accusations of vandalism, and denying any possible sound reasoning on the part of anyone but himself. [3]. He often restores his banner without so much as an explanation, [4] [5] even though everyone who has ever removed it (as far as I have seen) has provided an edit summary explaining their decision to remove it. [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]
Finally, and most importantly, he is completely outnumbered in this discussion, yet refuses to yield in any way. Here's my count on this issue:
Opposing the banner
Supporting the banner
Of course, my guess is that Wiki Historian N OH feels that since some of these editors dropped the argument after he reverted them, that they are conceding his point. This is an unsound conclusion. Not one editor has ever said that Wiki Historian N OH has convinced him of his points (such as they are) or that the banner should remain. I think it far more likely that they just didn’t feel like arguing the point further. The fact remains that his is a totally solitary voice in favor of retaining the banner in question.
And, as the editor with nearly half of all edits ever on this article, he is a poster child for WP:OWN (but he apparently has some other interpretation of this that I could not understand [12]).
My inclination is to assume that Wiki Historian N OH is sincere, but misguided. But if he does not either a) yield to the clear consensus, or b) advance some more convincing arguments, I will need to bring this to WP:ANI. I'm out. 98.82.23.93 ( talk) 00:55, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
I can't believe that Wiki Historian can read what I have here and then have the temerity to write:
This is absurd, and I am at a loss to explain how WHist can write this. He has repeatedly ignored everyone else's arguments, and when I concede that he has an interesting point (note: not necessarily a correct point, merely an interesting one), he turns that into a supposed concession.
Wiki Historian writes in his edit summary that he is doing it "pending controlling authority". Sir, the primary controlling authority on Wikipedia is consensus. And it is against you. I urge you to cease until such time as you can show that someone else supports your position on this. I am reverting. 98.82.23.93 ( talk) 16:14, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Wiki Historian N OH ( talk) 21:33, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
From an outsider's view, yes, the banner is completely out of place and inappropriate. Mentioning it in the article is appropriate, but care must be taken that it doesn't take up too much space or have too much detail, which this appears to. It could be summed up in just a few sentences in the History section to be honest. It really doesn't need its own section.
There are an enormous amount of point of view words, excessive detail, and boosterism abounding in this article. Editors need to remember that they are editing according to established Wikipedia standards, not simply as residents of a particular town. When we edit as "residents" it's easy to get carried away with details and making the town look good rather than providing a neutral, reliably-sourced, encyclopedic article. This article has tons of sources and a great foundation, but lots of unsourced boosterism/POV statements like "vibrant economy", for instance, that make this article read far more like a town promotional brochure than an encyclopedic article. Also watch out for excessive detail, particularly in the History section. WP:USCITY guidelines recommend that if it has over 10 paragraphs and uses subheadings, a "History of..." page might be appropriate with a much smaller summary in the main article. The idea of city articles is to give a thorough, but still general, idea of a particular town, not dive into detail about every aspect in the town.
Another issue is that of pictures. Pictures of Laura Bush and Al Gore are inappropriate for this article in the context they are used. This article is about Marysville, so pictures in the article need to be directly related to the town and the section they are in, not tangentially related because Laura Bush gave the designation or Al Gore used a product made in the town. Pictures of them tell us nothing about Marysville. The only time pictures of individuals are appropriate is in the Notable natives and residents section or in the History section for individuals who were directly part of the town's history. -- JonRidinger ( talk) 05:17, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
There are literally hundreds of thousands of designations and honors that are awarded to people, places, and things. Wikipedia does not draw special attention to any of them by having a banner at the top of the article. The proper thing to do is create an appropriate category if the designation is notable and add the category to the article. -- NeilN talk to me 06:34, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
<----I think what you mean to say is that the references need proper attribution (title, author, publication date, etc.). A weblink is not necessary (though it should be included where possible) as many books are not available online. Not having a weblink doesn't make them any less reliable as sources. -- JonRidinger ( talk) 02:05, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Wow. Talk about a hack job on this article and weasel editing. Would some mind repairing it as the edits have completely thrown the article out of wack. Also please replace the notable residents removed. Complete disgrace. That is the sad thing about Wikipedia, even the village idiots can edit.
Wiki Historian N OH ( talk) 20:40, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
There is ALOT of references like "Marysville JT, City Receives" and "History, Union County, p. 274". These references don't list when it was published, who wrote it, when it was found, where it can be found, or anything. Just some vague reference. I don't find these as good references and they populate the page. What should be done? - NeutralHomer • Talk • 09:21, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone think that we should add this to the Peer Review page at WP:PR for more eyes who focus on geography and towns in their editing can sift through this mess-of-a-page and see if anything needs deleted or added? - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:32, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I had to to leave before I could post my reasons for the undos (hopefully the edit summaries gave a clear indication) but here they are:
Should this section stay in the article? Most decent sized towns have branches from various banks. -- NeilN talk to me 04:49, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
There seem to be a lot of nice, but not necessarily relevant or helpful, photos in this article. Does anyone else think it might be worth moving all of them to Wikimedia Commons under a newly created category called "Marysville, Ohio"? That way, the photos that do illustrate or clarify topics in the article can be used, but the ones that aren't would still be accessible via a WM Commons link (e.g.: {{commons cat|Marysville, Ohio}}). I'm not too good with pictures so I'm not volunteering to do it, I just thought it might be worth discussing. Jrcla2 ( talk) 03:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
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Marysville has had a flag for about half a decade I believe at this point, but it still isn't on the Wikipedia article for it. I've never edited a Wikipedia article before, let alone add an image, so I'm a bit skeptical on doing it myself, especially because I don't know the specific rules on how to format it properly, & so on. Should the flag be added? & if so, how? Bluebanana2121 ( talk) 19:36, 19 January 2024 (UTC)