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The "Virgin" Mary and Mary Magdalene are obviously two of the three Marys (Maries) commonly described to be present during the Crucifiction. Who's the third? A webpage say "Mary Clopas, mother of Joses and James". She doesn't seem to be one of the mentioned Marys on this page. -- Menchi 14:17, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The popularity of the name Mary has plummeted, however. In 2004, it was only the 63rd most popular name given to girl babies in the United States. Maria, the name equivalent to Mary in Danish, Dutch, German, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish, and Swedish, ranked higher, being the 45th most popular name for girl babies in 2004. Jcuk
Is it supposed to be all people with the name Mary who have a Wikipedia article? I'm confused. The current page doesn't make sense according to any criteria. Enigma msg 17:11, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
I moved the New testament names to the top of the listing (from the bottom), since these are the people most likely to be searched for simply using the name "Mary". In fact Mary at one time redirected to the Virgin Mary page. Xan dar 23:10, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: articles not moved. Armbrust The Homunculus 12:13, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
– As per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:PTM. Of all the people/places/things that are commonly called "Mary" and are not just partial title matches, obviously this Mary is the most notable, by far. She's the one that almost all other Marys (Maries? What's the plural?) are named after (not that that really means all that much), she's the second-most important human being according to a majority of people who follow the world's most popular belief system, and more ink has been spilled (wasted?) describing and debating and discussing her than just about any person who ever lived ( her son being a noteworthy exception; you could probably add Mohammed to that list, and... I'm stumped for who else. Maybe Buddha.) While there are separate articles for perceptions of Mary in Roman Catholicism, Lutheranism, etc. those are only branch articles off of the main article. (If only Lutherans and Presbyterians cared about her, doubtlessly their perspectives would be included in full in the article; since everybody and their mother has a perspective on her, we have to have a bunch of branched-off articles.)
To make a long story short (too late): When a reader types in and searches for "Mary", what is he expecting? And if an editor wikilinks to
Mary, which article does she actually intend to be linking to? If you can answer me with a straight face that it's probably not
Mary (mother of Jesus) that is the intended target, I will gladly accept your opposition.
Red
Slash
02:48, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 02:00, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
– The given name is the primary topic. Clarityfiend ( talk) 07:49, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Mary, mother of Jesus which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 03:01, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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The "Virgin" Mary and Mary Magdalene are obviously two of the three Marys (Maries) commonly described to be present during the Crucifiction. Who's the third? A webpage say "Mary Clopas, mother of Joses and James". She doesn't seem to be one of the mentioned Marys on this page. -- Menchi 14:17, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The popularity of the name Mary has plummeted, however. In 2004, it was only the 63rd most popular name given to girl babies in the United States. Maria, the name equivalent to Mary in Danish, Dutch, German, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish, and Swedish, ranked higher, being the 45th most popular name for girl babies in 2004. Jcuk
Is it supposed to be all people with the name Mary who have a Wikipedia article? I'm confused. The current page doesn't make sense according to any criteria. Enigma msg 17:11, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
I moved the New testament names to the top of the listing (from the bottom), since these are the people most likely to be searched for simply using the name "Mary". In fact Mary at one time redirected to the Virgin Mary page. Xan dar 23:10, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: articles not moved. Armbrust The Homunculus 12:13, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
– As per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:PTM. Of all the people/places/things that are commonly called "Mary" and are not just partial title matches, obviously this Mary is the most notable, by far. She's the one that almost all other Marys (Maries? What's the plural?) are named after (not that that really means all that much), she's the second-most important human being according to a majority of people who follow the world's most popular belief system, and more ink has been spilled (wasted?) describing and debating and discussing her than just about any person who ever lived ( her son being a noteworthy exception; you could probably add Mohammed to that list, and... I'm stumped for who else. Maybe Buddha.) While there are separate articles for perceptions of Mary in Roman Catholicism, Lutheranism, etc. those are only branch articles off of the main article. (If only Lutherans and Presbyterians cared about her, doubtlessly their perspectives would be included in full in the article; since everybody and their mother has a perspective on her, we have to have a bunch of branched-off articles.)
To make a long story short (too late): When a reader types in and searches for "Mary", what is he expecting? And if an editor wikilinks to
Mary, which article does she actually intend to be linking to? If you can answer me with a straight face that it's probably not
Mary (mother of Jesus) that is the intended target, I will gladly accept your opposition.
Red
Slash
02:48, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 02:00, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
– The given name is the primary topic. Clarityfiend ( talk) 07:49, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Mary, mother of Jesus which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 03:01, 11 June 2022 (UTC)