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This article is clearly biased against the ummayads. -- Bentaguayre ( talk) 07:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
According to Copyvio Detector, the article has copyright violations issue. Also, the lead of article has copyright problem and copy/paste from this site. Saff V. ( talk) 13:40, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 10:14, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
Please could someone clarify which book is referred to by "Bosworth, p. 621" and "Bosworth, p. 622". We need to know both the title and the edition (pagination is not aways the same in all editions of books). The author, CE Bosworth wrote more than one book.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:36, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
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Al Ameer Most of the information about Marwan bin Hakim in this article have been copy pasted from different sites and without references.as most of the information is unauthentic and unreliable, so I am putting once again citation needed. Beside that I am approached by one of the Sunni group of muslims that the article has been manipulated by Shi'ats group of muslim. So the information needs to be authenticated.
@ Aparytai: Every single you thing you just stated is false. If you are referring to the introductory section of the article being unreferenced, it is because we do not add references to this section—it is a summary of the article's body, which, in this case, is completely referenced to scholarly secondary sources. The article is not "manipulated", it is only a balancing of the available secondary scholarly sources which, in turn, reflect their analyses and interpretations of the relevant medieval-era literature (mostly the Islamic traditional sources) as there is no other source material available about this caliph. -- Al Ameer ( talk) 18:11, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
I think we should add other views to the statement that he killed Talha. The earliest sources mention two explanations:
Here is what al-Tabari wrote in his two accounts of the battle:
Both explanations are found in later sources, like this brief summary by Abu Nu'aym. [1]
Modern historians also came up with different conclusions, as Madelung states: "The reports that Talha was killed by Marwan have been dismissed by L. Caetani and other modern scholars as anti-Umayyad fiction." [1] Another example is Ella Landau-Tasering who maintains that "Talhah and al-Zubayr were not killed in battle but repented their move and retreated. They were nevertheless killed by ‘Ali's supporters." [2] There is a report where Imran bin Talha tells Ali "you killed my father" (Ibn Sa'd, Tabaqat, vol. 3, p.206; see also p.205 where Ali's supporters make the same point).
Since we have multiple views and a number of discrepant reports, we should avoid stating contested assertions as facts. Wiqi (55) 20:42, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
References
I recently changed the
short description from the fourth Umayyad Caliph
to Seventh-century Umayyad caliph
, which has been
reverted by
Aza24. Explaining my rationale:
Thoughts? {{u| Sdkb}} talk 08:30, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Is it true that Marwan killed Talha ibn Ubayd Allah? I don't know the source from Sunni Muslim historians Iylaq ( talk) 03:42, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles#Islamic honorifics and user-generated calligraphic images. ☿ Apaugasma ( talk ☉) 19:59, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
zayad 116.71.14.205 ( talk) 05:34, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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This article is clearly biased against the ummayads. -- Bentaguayre ( talk) 07:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
According to Copyvio Detector, the article has copyright violations issue. Also, the lead of article has copyright problem and copy/paste from this site. Saff V. ( talk) 13:40, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 10:14, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
Please could someone clarify which book is referred to by "Bosworth, p. 621" and "Bosworth, p. 622". We need to know both the title and the edition (pagination is not aways the same in all editions of books). The author, CE Bosworth wrote more than one book.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:36, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Eperoton ( talk · contribs) 18:57, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello,
Al Ameer son. I'll be reviewing this article. It's good that you've been through this process quite a few times, since I'm doing my first GA review, and you'll be able to tell me if I do something wrong. :)
Eperoton (
talk)
18:57, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Eperoton ( talk) 22:49, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Al Ameer Most of the information about Marwan bin Hakim in this article have been copy pasted from different sites and without references.as most of the information is unauthentic and unreliable, so I am putting once again citation needed. Beside that I am approached by one of the Sunni group of muslims that the article has been manipulated by Shi'ats group of muslim. So the information needs to be authenticated.
@ Aparytai: Every single you thing you just stated is false. If you are referring to the introductory section of the article being unreferenced, it is because we do not add references to this section—it is a summary of the article's body, which, in this case, is completely referenced to scholarly secondary sources. The article is not "manipulated", it is only a balancing of the available secondary scholarly sources which, in turn, reflect their analyses and interpretations of the relevant medieval-era literature (mostly the Islamic traditional sources) as there is no other source material available about this caliph. -- Al Ameer ( talk) 18:11, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
I think we should add other views to the statement that he killed Talha. The earliest sources mention two explanations:
Here is what al-Tabari wrote in his two accounts of the battle:
Both explanations are found in later sources, like this brief summary by Abu Nu'aym. [1]
Modern historians also came up with different conclusions, as Madelung states: "The reports that Talha was killed by Marwan have been dismissed by L. Caetani and other modern scholars as anti-Umayyad fiction." [1] Another example is Ella Landau-Tasering who maintains that "Talhah and al-Zubayr were not killed in battle but repented their move and retreated. They were nevertheless killed by ‘Ali's supporters." [2] There is a report where Imran bin Talha tells Ali "you killed my father" (Ibn Sa'd, Tabaqat, vol. 3, p.206; see also p.205 where Ali's supporters make the same point).
Since we have multiple views and a number of discrepant reports, we should avoid stating contested assertions as facts. Wiqi (55) 20:42, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
References
I recently changed the
short description from the fourth Umayyad Caliph
to Seventh-century Umayyad caliph
, which has been
reverted by
Aza24. Explaining my rationale:
Thoughts? {{u| Sdkb}} talk 08:30, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Is it true that Marwan killed Talha ibn Ubayd Allah? I don't know the source from Sunni Muslim historians Iylaq ( talk) 03:42, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles#Islamic honorifics and user-generated calligraphic images. ☿ Apaugasma ( talk ☉) 19:59, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
zayad 116.71.14.205 ( talk) 05:34, 14 June 2024 (UTC)