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A previous writer gave publisher Martin Goodman's birth date as January 18, 1908, but did not cite a source for this. I could find no independent confirmation. Two sources, which I've footnoted (the Les Daniels authorized book, and the index for the Michigan State U. comics collection), each gives 1910. Goodman is probably listed in Who's Who in America, if anyone has access to that as a source, to help solve this discrepancy. -- 24.215.162.25 04:37, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
the social security death index and the obit in the Miami papers and his return papers to the USA in 1934 (after a boat cruise - seen on Ancestry.com) gives his birth date as January 18, 1908. I wonder where Daniels and Randy Scott (of MSU) got the 1910 date.
Steven 02:29, 1 March 2007 (UTC)StevenRowe
Huh, a list I posted (as Brand Echh, http://www.comicboards.com/invaders/view.php?trd=041126211131) on a message board appears as an external link. I know the message board doesn't have a permanent archive. Guess that's the list that was posted here by someone else. At any rate, I'd like to see entries for at least some of these pulp books, what do you guys think? In particular, "The Angel Detective" (first and only appearance of a crime noir hero very similar to Timely's Angel), the entire " Marvel Science Stories" line (including Marvel Science Stories, Marvel Tales, Marvel Stories and Marvel Science Fiction) and " Ka-zar the Great" (the predecessor of Marvel's Ka-Zar). Marvel Science issues in the 1950s included some early works by L. Ron Hubbard. - Kevingarcia 08:03, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
While revising a convoluted passage, I wound up adding this weasel:
...obviously it would be better to state when exactly the name change occured. Anybody know? AC 17:31, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
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I am the one doing detailed work on Goodman's pulps. I took notice of your list but my primary -published- references were Len Robbins "The Pulp Index", Ellis-Gunnison-Locke's "The Adventure House Guide to the Pulps", Cook & Miller's "Mystery, Detection and Espionage Pulps", Miller & Contento's index of SF pulps, somebody's index of digest magazines, and both editions of the Bookery-Fantasy Pulp index & price guide. I have also worked with pulp collectors and their checklists. Your list was over 90% correct.
I have a detailed checklist online. Version 2.0 should be out real soon, as of 2008-4-21, with a lot of new information and cover scans. Richardpaulhall ( talk) 05:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
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Footnote [5] "Sources differ as to dates and facts surrounding these brief years."
Ro and Offenberger disagree. I have found nothing that documents these early days. The earliest pulp that is part of the "Columbia" group is Mystery Novels Magazine [v 2 #5, January 1935] published by Winford, part of the "Double-Action" Group, aka "Blue Ribbon", which is Columbia. So Winford starts publishing in early to late 1934.
"Newstand Publications" starts with Western Supernovel Magazine [v 1 # 1, May 1933]. But my readings, no listable sources, show Martin Goodman, Louis Silberkleit, and probably Lincoln Hoffman, founded Newsstand Publications, Inc.
Western Fiction Publishing's first offering was Western Fiction Magazine, January 1935. This is the second dba created by what wold become Martin Goodman's "Red Circle" Group. I have not discovered when and why Louis Silberkleit left. Nor what Lincoln Hoffman's role was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.109.236 ( talk) 21:07, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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"...so they took a plane instead, avoiding the Hindenburg disaster." They took a transatlantic commercial airline flight? In 1937? Hmm... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.191.157.159 ( talk) 12:12, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Does anyone have an archive of the 2010 Atlas relaunch announcement? AtlasArchive.com no longer exists.
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The article features the claim that Goodman spent time in hobo camps as a young man during the depression. That is utterly false. He worked at the Eastern Distribution Company from 1924 to 1932. The Mutual Magazine Distributors from 1932 to 1935. Then he founded Red Circle in 1935. He was continuously employed during the depression and well off enough to found companies. 107.193.104.112 ( talk) 23:25, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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A previous writer gave publisher Martin Goodman's birth date as January 18, 1908, but did not cite a source for this. I could find no independent confirmation. Two sources, which I've footnoted (the Les Daniels authorized book, and the index for the Michigan State U. comics collection), each gives 1910. Goodman is probably listed in Who's Who in America, if anyone has access to that as a source, to help solve this discrepancy. -- 24.215.162.25 04:37, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
the social security death index and the obit in the Miami papers and his return papers to the USA in 1934 (after a boat cruise - seen on Ancestry.com) gives his birth date as January 18, 1908. I wonder where Daniels and Randy Scott (of MSU) got the 1910 date.
Steven 02:29, 1 March 2007 (UTC)StevenRowe
Huh, a list I posted (as Brand Echh, http://www.comicboards.com/invaders/view.php?trd=041126211131) on a message board appears as an external link. I know the message board doesn't have a permanent archive. Guess that's the list that was posted here by someone else. At any rate, I'd like to see entries for at least some of these pulp books, what do you guys think? In particular, "The Angel Detective" (first and only appearance of a crime noir hero very similar to Timely's Angel), the entire " Marvel Science Stories" line (including Marvel Science Stories, Marvel Tales, Marvel Stories and Marvel Science Fiction) and " Ka-zar the Great" (the predecessor of Marvel's Ka-Zar). Marvel Science issues in the 1950s included some early works by L. Ron Hubbard. - Kevingarcia 08:03, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
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I am the one doing detailed work on Goodman's pulps. I took notice of your list but my primary -published- references were Len Robbins "The Pulp Index", Ellis-Gunnison-Locke's "The Adventure House Guide to the Pulps", Cook & Miller's "Mystery, Detection and Espionage Pulps", Miller & Contento's index of SF pulps, somebody's index of digest magazines, and both editions of the Bookery-Fantasy Pulp index & price guide. I have also worked with pulp collectors and their checklists. Your list was over 90% correct.
I have a detailed checklist online. Version 2.0 should be out real soon, as of 2008-4-21, with a lot of new information and cover scans. Richardpaulhall ( talk) 05:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
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Footnote [5] "Sources differ as to dates and facts surrounding these brief years."
Ro and Offenberger disagree. I have found nothing that documents these early days. The earliest pulp that is part of the "Columbia" group is Mystery Novels Magazine [v 2 #5, January 1935] published by Winford, part of the "Double-Action" Group, aka "Blue Ribbon", which is Columbia. So Winford starts publishing in early to late 1934.
"Newstand Publications" starts with Western Supernovel Magazine [v 1 # 1, May 1933]. But my readings, no listable sources, show Martin Goodman, Louis Silberkleit, and probably Lincoln Hoffman, founded Newsstand Publications, Inc.
Western Fiction Publishing's first offering was Western Fiction Magazine, January 1935. This is the second dba created by what wold become Martin Goodman's "Red Circle" Group. I have not discovered when and why Louis Silberkleit left. Nor what Lincoln Hoffman's role was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.109.236 ( talk) 21:07, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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"...so they took a plane instead, avoiding the Hindenburg disaster." They took a transatlantic commercial airline flight? In 1937? Hmm... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.191.157.159 ( talk) 12:12, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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The article features the claim that Goodman spent time in hobo camps as a young man during the depression. That is utterly false. He worked at the Eastern Distribution Company from 1924 to 1932. The Mutual Magazine Distributors from 1932 to 1935. Then he founded Red Circle in 1935. He was continuously employed during the depression and well off enough to found companies. 107.193.104.112 ( talk) 23:25, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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Has there been any publication about the possible inside joke of Martin Goodman being a related (variant) to Victor Timely, as his creation of an umbrella termed Timely Comics eventually became Marvel Comics? A out-of-universe early 1900's connection. 134.79.89.15 ( talk) 17:42, 5 March 2023 (UTC)