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I changed the introduction a bit, as there seems to be a confusion as to the town's spelling and current status. Thanks. Atabəy ( talk) 16:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 12:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 12:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Aghdara (town) →
Martakert — Relisted.
fuzzy510 (
talk) 08:43, 7 March 2011 (UTC) Per
WP:PLACE - Widely accepted name. Google scholar results for
Martakert provide with overwhelmingly more than those for
Aghdara. --
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The result of the move request was: MOVED ( non-admin closure) Galobtter ( pingó mió) 18:30, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Aghdara → Martakert – The Armenian-language name for this town is clearly more widely used in sources (especially books etc.) than the Azerbaijani-language name, as shown in the 2011 move request and still true today. The fact that the town is in a conflict zone complicates things, though, so the 2011 move request did not succeed. However I don't think the discussion then got to all the issues at hand and I'm inclined to think 'Martakert' should be used. I don't think parenthetical disambiguation is necessary to separate the town from the namesake province and raion - maybe that can be discussed separately...
This town is in the former Soviet Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast, is under the de facto control of the Republic of Artsakh (prev. Nagorno-Karabakh Republic), and is recognized internationally as being de jure Azerbaijani territory. But unlike the much-argued-over Heyvali (village), it was in Nagorno-Karabakh AO proper, not in territory unilaterally annexed later by Artsakh without no recognition whatsoever. A number of users in the Heyvali move request said that they made a distinction based on this. There are multiple reasons for this: the Armenian-language name was predominately used during the Soviet era and further back, the ethnic Armenian side in the conflict perhaps is recognized as having a more legitimate interest in the place, and so on. I couldn't find sources specifically about the name of this town, but it seems both names have some history.
And significantly, every other major settlement in the borders of the Nagorno-Karabakh AO is under the Armenian-language name, with there perhaps being consensus at least for the capital Stepanakert based on the principle of using the commonly used name (that inconsistency being what prompted this move request). — innotata 04:53, 17 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 21:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
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Change redirect to Aghdara, as this page is currently a double redirect DannyS712 ( talk) 19:24, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
This was meant as an edit request on Mardakert (town), but I could not make an edit request there, so I made it here. Currently, Mardakert (town) is a double redirect to this page. -- DannyS712 ( talk) 19:26, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
The city belongs to Azerbaijan Republic. Armenia invaded it in 1990s. But the city is accepted as of Azerbaijan. And in 2020 Azerbaijan released the city from Armenian terrorists. So why not Aghdara, the real name? If it is an official Azerbaijani city, then you can't predict Mardakert before Aghdara. The first and real factual official name is Aghdara. The theme should begin with that. You can put Mardakert within brackets. Please, amend it. 5.178.11.10 ( talk) 10:00, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
I would like to note that according to both Azerbaijani and Armenian sources, Azerbaijan Armed forces have taken control of Aghdara/Martakert. Here is proof showing an Azerbaijani soldier in Aghdara. [2] EloquentEditor ( talk) 18:54, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
aftermath of antiterror measurements, took by Azerbaijani government in 2023, on 20 of September , Agdara was returned under the control of Azerbaijan and thus, constitutional order was revitalised . Please , amed the article 5.191.106.143 ( talk) 16:21, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Aghdara is de facto and de jure part of Azerbaijan, name of article should be renewed. Əhməd Qurbanov ( talk) 09:30, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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I changed the introduction a bit, as there seems to be a confusion as to the town's spelling and current status. Thanks. Atabəy ( talk) 16:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 12:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 12:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Aghdara (town) →
Martakert — Relisted.
fuzzy510 (
talk) 08:43, 7 March 2011 (UTC) Per
WP:PLACE - Widely accepted name. Google scholar results for
Martakert provide with overwhelmingly more than those for
Aghdara. --
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11:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: MOVED ( non-admin closure) Galobtter ( pingó mió) 18:30, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Aghdara → Martakert – The Armenian-language name for this town is clearly more widely used in sources (especially books etc.) than the Azerbaijani-language name, as shown in the 2011 move request and still true today. The fact that the town is in a conflict zone complicates things, though, so the 2011 move request did not succeed. However I don't think the discussion then got to all the issues at hand and I'm inclined to think 'Martakert' should be used. I don't think parenthetical disambiguation is necessary to separate the town from the namesake province and raion - maybe that can be discussed separately...
This town is in the former Soviet Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast, is under the de facto control of the Republic of Artsakh (prev. Nagorno-Karabakh Republic), and is recognized internationally as being de jure Azerbaijani territory. But unlike the much-argued-over Heyvali (village), it was in Nagorno-Karabakh AO proper, not in territory unilaterally annexed later by Artsakh without no recognition whatsoever. A number of users in the Heyvali move request said that they made a distinction based on this. There are multiple reasons for this: the Armenian-language name was predominately used during the Soviet era and further back, the ethnic Armenian side in the conflict perhaps is recognized as having a more legitimate interest in the place, and so on. I couldn't find sources specifically about the name of this town, but it seems both names have some history.
And significantly, every other major settlement in the borders of the Nagorno-Karabakh AO is under the Armenian-language name, with there perhaps being consensus at least for the capital Stepanakert based on the principle of using the commonly used name (that inconsistency being what prompted this move request). — innotata 04:53, 17 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 21:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
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Change redirect to Aghdara, as this page is currently a double redirect DannyS712 ( talk) 19:24, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
This was meant as an edit request on Mardakert (town), but I could not make an edit request there, so I made it here. Currently, Mardakert (town) is a double redirect to this page. -- DannyS712 ( talk) 19:26, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
The city belongs to Azerbaijan Republic. Armenia invaded it in 1990s. But the city is accepted as of Azerbaijan. And in 2020 Azerbaijan released the city from Armenian terrorists. So why not Aghdara, the real name? If it is an official Azerbaijani city, then you can't predict Mardakert before Aghdara. The first and real factual official name is Aghdara. The theme should begin with that. You can put Mardakert within brackets. Please, amend it. 5.178.11.10 ( talk) 10:00, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
I would like to note that according to both Azerbaijani and Armenian sources, Azerbaijan Armed forces have taken control of Aghdara/Martakert. Here is proof showing an Azerbaijani soldier in Aghdara. [2] EloquentEditor ( talk) 18:54, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
aftermath of antiterror measurements, took by Azerbaijani government in 2023, on 20 of September , Agdara was returned under the control of Azerbaijan and thus, constitutional order was revitalised . Please , amed the article 5.191.106.143 ( talk) 16:21, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Aghdara is de facto and de jure part of Azerbaijan, name of article should be renewed. Əhməd Qurbanov ( talk) 09:30, 29 September 2023 (UTC)