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Hi, I'm Raffaella. I have changes to help improve this article. Disclosure: I have a WP:COI as I work in media relations at Mr. Weinberger's company EY. To get started with some hopefully simple and non-controversial updates, I've put together a list of minor edits to fix a few inaccuracies and some changes to standardize this article compared with other Wikipedia biographies.
Introduction
Starting at the top, currently the article's introduction misstates Mr. Weinberger's title and the name of the company. Per the main article,
Ernst & Young was renamed to EY in 2013 and Weinberger is its global chairman and CEO. Below is my new suggested wording:
References
Infobox
We could improve the infobox by adding the years in which Mr. Weinberger graduated from the schools listed under Alma mater and correcting his title at EY to "Global Chairman and CEO".
Mark A. Weinberger | |
---|---|
Born | July 28, 1961
Scranton, Pennsylvania, U.S. |
Nationality | American |
Alma mater |
Emory University (1983) Case Western Reserve University (1987) Georgetown University Law Center (1991) |
Occupation(s) | Global Chairman and CEO of EY |
Predecessor | Jim Turley |
Children | 4 |
{{Infobox person
| name = Mark A. Weinberger
| image =
| caption =
| birth_name = {{birth date and age|1961|7|28}}
| birth_place = [[Scranton, Pennsylvania]], U.S.
| nationality = American
| occupation = Global [[Chairman]] and [[CEO]] of [[Ernst & Young|EY]]
| predecessor = [[Jim Turley]]
| spouse =
| children = 4
| residence =
| alma_mater = [[Emory University]] <small>(1983)</small><br>[[Case Western Reserve University]] <small>(1987)</small><br>[[Georgetown University Law Center]] <small>(1991)</small>
| website =
| signature =
Section titles
Lastly, I have some new suggested section titles for this article to improve its organization. As a biography of a living person, it seems redundant to have a section titled Biography, so I suggest we delete the Biography heading and make each of the subheadings a top level heading, as follows:
In addition to the above edits, I am working on getting a photo and will be back with that soon. Reach out to me here if you have questions. Thanks, RS at EY ( talk) 16:56, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hi, I uploaded a photo of Mr. Weinberger to Wikimedia Commons. The file name is File:Mark Weinberger at the EY World Entrepreneur of the Year 2016.png
. Can an editor place the photo in the infobox? I have a
WP:COI so I do not edit directly.
NinjaRobotPirate: Since you helped me with my prior request, I want to make you aware of this request as well.
Justlettersandnumbers: I notice you have taken issue with the number of primary sources used in this article. Please know that I am working on updating this article with new sourcing that is appropriate for Wikipedia. I am happy to have you take a look once those updates are ready for review.
Reach out to me here if you have questions. Thanks, RS at EY ( talk) 17:14, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
File:Mark Weinberger at the EY World Entrepreneur of the Year 2016.png
) has been restored to Wikimedia Commons. Can you place the photo in the infobox again? Reach out to me here if you have questions.![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hi, editors. Justlettersandnumbers recently edited the introduction to say that Mr. Weinberger is the global chairman and CEO of Ernst & Young. It is more accurate the way the article previously stated that Mr. Weinberger is global chairman and CEO of EY, formerly known as Ernst & Young. While it is true that some still refer to the company as Ernst & Young, there are many sources that use the correct name, among them: Financial Times, Fortune, Bloomberg, and Politico. I am also pinging NinjaRobotPirate, who has helped update this article recently. I'm interested to read others' thoughts on this. Thank you. RS at EY ( talk) 19:47, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
File:Mark Weinberger at the EY World Entrepreneur of the Year 2016.png
? The photo was deleted previously because another editor had a question about the permission. I sent the permission to OTRS, which was reviewed and approved.![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hi, I created a draft in my user space to improve this page. Can an editor review my draft and move it into the article mainspace should it meet Wikipedia's WP:VERIFY and WP:NPOV rules? Disclosure: I have a WP:COI as I work in media relations at Mr. Weinberger's company EY. My recent edit requests for this article appear above, where I worked with Wikipedia volunteers to update the introduction and infobox. Here's what you'll see in my rewrite of the entire article:
Please let me know if you prefer to review this article at once, or piece-by-piece. The article is currently marked {{third party}}
because it relies too much on primary sources. It is my hope that my draft fixes that. Reach out to me here if you have questions. Thanks,
RS at EY (
talk)
14:13, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Dormskirk, RS at EY, I'm sorry, but I have undone the recent over-write of the article. Our instructions on this sort of thing are quite clear. The first one reads: "Do not insert major re-writes or controversial requests without clear consensus. When these are requested, ask the submitter to discuss the edits instead with regular contributors on the article's talk page. You can use {{edit COI|D|D}}". I've altered the status of the edit request accordingly, in the hope that some discussion may actually take place. I think it's needed.
Dormskirk, may I just remind you that if any of us does over-write a page with new text like that, we need to provide copyright attribution? There's a sample edit summary in the sixth instruction for reviewers.
RS at EY, may I just remind you that this is an encyclopaedia, not a platform for promoting your interests or those of your employer? A sentence such as "Under Weinberger's leadership, EY announced in October 2015 its fastest growth since 2008", with its weaselly implication that this was through some merit of Weinberger's (which of course it may well have been, and equally well may not have been) may be acceptable in a company press-release, but has absolutely no place here. Also, Wikipedia articles need to be written in clear and comprehensible English, so we don't write stuff like "EY's global vice chair—tax and Americas vice chair—tax". Sorry! Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 18:18, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Mark Weinberger article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
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content assessment scale. It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
![]() | The Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use require that editors disclose their "employer, client, and affiliation" with respect to any paid contribution; see WP:PAID. For advice about reviewing paid contributions, see WP:COIRESPONSE. |
Hi, I'm Raffaella. I have changes to help improve this article. Disclosure: I have a WP:COI as I work in media relations at Mr. Weinberger's company EY. To get started with some hopefully simple and non-controversial updates, I've put together a list of minor edits to fix a few inaccuracies and some changes to standardize this article compared with other Wikipedia biographies.
Introduction
Starting at the top, currently the article's introduction misstates Mr. Weinberger's title and the name of the company. Per the main article,
Ernst & Young was renamed to EY in 2013 and Weinberger is its global chairman and CEO. Below is my new suggested wording:
References
Infobox
We could improve the infobox by adding the years in which Mr. Weinberger graduated from the schools listed under Alma mater and correcting his title at EY to "Global Chairman and CEO".
Mark A. Weinberger | |
---|---|
Born | July 28, 1961
Scranton, Pennsylvania, U.S. |
Nationality | American |
Alma mater |
Emory University (1983) Case Western Reserve University (1987) Georgetown University Law Center (1991) |
Occupation(s) | Global Chairman and CEO of EY |
Predecessor | Jim Turley |
Children | 4 |
{{Infobox person
| name = Mark A. Weinberger
| image =
| caption =
| birth_name = {{birth date and age|1961|7|28}}
| birth_place = [[Scranton, Pennsylvania]], U.S.
| nationality = American
| occupation = Global [[Chairman]] and [[CEO]] of [[Ernst & Young|EY]]
| predecessor = [[Jim Turley]]
| spouse =
| children = 4
| residence =
| alma_mater = [[Emory University]] <small>(1983)</small><br>[[Case Western Reserve University]] <small>(1987)</small><br>[[Georgetown University Law Center]] <small>(1991)</small>
| website =
| signature =
Section titles
Lastly, I have some new suggested section titles for this article to improve its organization. As a biography of a living person, it seems redundant to have a section titled Biography, so I suggest we delete the Biography heading and make each of the subheadings a top level heading, as follows:
In addition to the above edits, I am working on getting a photo and will be back with that soon. Reach out to me here if you have questions. Thanks, RS at EY ( talk) 16:56, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hi, I uploaded a photo of Mr. Weinberger to Wikimedia Commons. The file name is File:Mark Weinberger at the EY World Entrepreneur of the Year 2016.png
. Can an editor place the photo in the infobox? I have a
WP:COI so I do not edit directly.
NinjaRobotPirate: Since you helped me with my prior request, I want to make you aware of this request as well.
Justlettersandnumbers: I notice you have taken issue with the number of primary sources used in this article. Please know that I am working on updating this article with new sourcing that is appropriate for Wikipedia. I am happy to have you take a look once those updates are ready for review.
Reach out to me here if you have questions. Thanks, RS at EY ( talk) 17:14, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
File:Mark Weinberger at the EY World Entrepreneur of the Year 2016.png
) has been restored to Wikimedia Commons. Can you place the photo in the infobox again? Reach out to me here if you have questions.![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hi, editors. Justlettersandnumbers recently edited the introduction to say that Mr. Weinberger is the global chairman and CEO of Ernst & Young. It is more accurate the way the article previously stated that Mr. Weinberger is global chairman and CEO of EY, formerly known as Ernst & Young. While it is true that some still refer to the company as Ernst & Young, there are many sources that use the correct name, among them: Financial Times, Fortune, Bloomberg, and Politico. I am also pinging NinjaRobotPirate, who has helped update this article recently. I'm interested to read others' thoughts on this. Thank you. RS at EY ( talk) 19:47, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
File:Mark Weinberger at the EY World Entrepreneur of the Year 2016.png
? The photo was deleted previously because another editor had a question about the permission. I sent the permission to OTRS, which was reviewed and approved.![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hi, I created a draft in my user space to improve this page. Can an editor review my draft and move it into the article mainspace should it meet Wikipedia's WP:VERIFY and WP:NPOV rules? Disclosure: I have a WP:COI as I work in media relations at Mr. Weinberger's company EY. My recent edit requests for this article appear above, where I worked with Wikipedia volunteers to update the introduction and infobox. Here's what you'll see in my rewrite of the entire article:
Please let me know if you prefer to review this article at once, or piece-by-piece. The article is currently marked {{third party}}
because it relies too much on primary sources. It is my hope that my draft fixes that. Reach out to me here if you have questions. Thanks,
RS at EY (
talk)
14:13, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Dormskirk, RS at EY, I'm sorry, but I have undone the recent over-write of the article. Our instructions on this sort of thing are quite clear. The first one reads: "Do not insert major re-writes or controversial requests without clear consensus. When these are requested, ask the submitter to discuss the edits instead with regular contributors on the article's talk page. You can use {{edit COI|D|D}}". I've altered the status of the edit request accordingly, in the hope that some discussion may actually take place. I think it's needed.
Dormskirk, may I just remind you that if any of us does over-write a page with new text like that, we need to provide copyright attribution? There's a sample edit summary in the sixth instruction for reviewers.
RS at EY, may I just remind you that this is an encyclopaedia, not a platform for promoting your interests or those of your employer? A sentence such as "Under Weinberger's leadership, EY announced in October 2015 its fastest growth since 2008", with its weaselly implication that this was through some merit of Weinberger's (which of course it may well have been, and equally well may not have been) may be acceptable in a company press-release, but has absolutely no place here. Also, Wikipedia articles need to be written in clear and comprehensible English, so we don't write stuff like "EY's global vice chair—tax and Americas vice chair—tax". Sorry! Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 18:18, 21 April 2017 (UTC)